Wish I never did Meth. Turned me into a very sick minded degenerate scumbag loser

Personally, I started to feel like I was regaining control of my life around the three-month mark. Not because meth had completely taken over my life, but because it simply became boring. I began enjoying things for what they authentically are. By six months, I barely thought about meth at all. That said, I’d be lying if I claimed the cravings ever fully disappeared—but seeing the physical damage it causes is more than enough to put me off ever touching it again.

I quit cold turkey from day one. I cut off my supply completely, created my own routine—the SOS diet (soup, oats, and salad)—hit the gym every day, and kept my mind busy by chasing healthy sources of dopamine.
 
I quit cold turkey from day one. I cut off my supply completely, created my own routine—the SOS diet (soup, oats, and salad)—hit the gym every day, and kept my mind busy by chasing healthy sources of dopamine.
That's a good way to do it. The exercise very important especially. Gotta force yourself but it does make you feel better.
 
I mean after experiencing the holy trinity(Meth,Porn,and Masturbation) of the best pleasure on the planet how does one move forward?

I guess I had to accept things might never get better and that’s ok. Life is hard. It’s why I turned to religion cause I saw it fix people.

Maybe that’s why the Muslim paradise seems so appealing to me, having non stop limitless sex with beautiful women with excellent alcoholic drinks that don’t cause hangovers and drunkenness seems like a sacrifice worth making in my eyes.

I mean who doesn’t like those things?

So yeah the prospect of sacrificing bad shit in this life for an eternal reward where things can’t go wrong seems like a good gamble for me.

I win either way. If Islam was right then I get to experience the best pleasures beyond imagination and if it wasn’t oh well at least I lived a clean,moral,ethical, and sober life.

Thank you for the sense of community and support.
 
I mean after experiencing the holy trinity(Meth,Porn,and Masturbation) of the best pleasure on the planet how does one move forward?

I guess I had to accept things might never get better and that’s ok. Life is hard. It’s why I turned to religion cause I saw it fix people.
You just do. It just takes time. Do other stuff, live clean for a while. Your receptors will eventually settle themselves down.

I'm sure they'll get better. It's good to have a spiritual outlet.
 
I appreciate the kind words.

Unfortunately you can get this piece of shit drug anywhere and living in one of the biggest drug headquarters in the world(Las Vegas) it’s a challenge. You just know anywhere you go wherever it looks run down and there’s bums there’s meth. It’s in every single city not just Vegas.

But yeah if you come to Vegas take a look at East Las Vegas , Meth has literally ravaged the whole place into looking like a war zone in Gaza with collapsed buildings, zombies tweaking on the streets or someone ODing on heroine lying on the street covered in flies.

It’s crazy this is a worldwide popular tourist destination.
I remember I went through Vegas with my mom after taking a trip to California a couple years ago. There are some very shady areas out there. I remember her looking around and being shocked, as she is almost 70 and lives in a small town and doesn’t see drugs very much. Albuquerque has very bad areas as well.
 
Bonus points if you beat up your penis and then in a paranoid state, try and figure out why your penis is looking so abused

Extra bonus points if, in your frazzled state, you call the police to report a non-self inflicted cock beating.

I win either way. If Islam was right then I get to experience the best pleasures beyond imagination and if it wasn’t oh well at least I lived a clean,moral,ethical, and sober life.

This is a great perspective to have. It's a win-win proposition.

Congrats on the weeks of sobriety, Iblis. The more time you spend away from meth, the greater your mental and physical healing. You've hopped off a one-way train which only ever terminates in a very bad place.
 
OP you are spot on.

There is literally nothing better than sex and meth.

It is a massive problem.

You just got to get another hobby and take it one day at a time.
 
Id say one silver lining type of thought process, is try to build anticipation, that's one thing a sober mind has in spades over addiction. Foresight, planning, attention, ect

With meth there is no anticipation. It's just repeating behaviors. Part of the thrilling part for me was traveling into the hood at 1am to score crack or even better find meth.

So if we can apply that logic to sex and sobriety.. maybe, I don't know, write erotic novels and stuff like that, perfect a skill sounds boring as fuck I'm sure, but, think about it.
 
^Really? I always wondered if that was possible in the same way it is with say pot or xanax. Like you were gunna do some dumb shit but than meth gave you the clarity not to?

Or like "I woulda been shot if I hadn't happened to be out coppin meth at the time?"

Or any grey area in between there, I am interested...
meth sometimes saves my life metaphorically, but i risk a part of myself every time i try ti map out and figure everything out ..

in minecraft.
 
^Really? I always wondered if that was possible in the same way it is with say pot or xanax. Like you were gunna do some dumb shit but than meth gave you the clarity not to?

Or like "I woulda been shot if I hadn't happened to be out coppin meth at the time?"

Or any grey area in between there, I am interested...
it's just the life paths that diverge before i got into meth, i don't trust those lifepaths now.

i trust the meth lifepath the most, it has taught me a lot in a short spread of time,

this involves me trusting i acn kick pisispotnrock before study starts.

output is what is important heere
 
I used meth off and on for almost 25 years & then stopped for a good 2-3 years.

And I'd just like to say that it CAN get better for some people. I think it's because I'm biased though. I've always enjoyed opioids more than stimulants, because opioids ACTUALLY give me energy, motivation & relieve me of depression symptoms. But it's more of a mild, "natural" sort of feeling of energy, where as stimulants just feel like forced stimulation. So it was pretty easy for me to go extended periods of time without having any meth cravings, cause I've always been on opioids or some other drug anyway.

I think that's probably the only way some one could get better easily though or stick to it, is by not really being a fan of meth or being on stims in the first place.

Whenever I have used meth & then stopped & jumped back on my usual drugs, I ALWAYS notice all my other drugs will be lacking in euphoria or mood lift, because of how much damage & abuse my dopamine receptors just received from a meth binge. It also killed my sex drive & interest in sex for awhile.

But it all started getting better after those 2-3 years. Until idiots around me brought that bullshit back into my life for awhile.


One way to look it is at least stopping meth just means going back to boring baseline levels of dopamine, it's not actually causing a "physical dependence" like opioids, benzos, alcohol & other drugs can. Or maybe it can, they're always discovering new things about drugs they didn't know about. But to my knowledge, there's no "meth receptors" in your body crying out to be agonized by an exogenous molecule is what I'm saying. And the brain can absolutely heal over time & rewire itself & all that. It's just going to take time & most people give up before they get through enough time to see results.


I get so frustrated with the meth addicts in my life, because they ALL see how stupid & damaging meth is to their personalities & to their bodies, etc.. and they're always talking about quitting & then they can't even last a week before they're doing it again. I've had friends who have literally told me like 500 times over the past few years that they were going to stop meth & then were right back at it in no time. Now I just have to laugh in my mind & ignore it whenever one tells they're quitting, cause I know it's bullshit. Where as I was able to say no & go months or years without a relapse because I hate being in that state of mind that meth use causes.

People have to remember that once you reach a milestone when it comes to stopping, you're actually gonna feel more "high" knowing how long you've stayed away from meth. You'll look at other people high on meth & be like "thank god that ain't me & I don't have to deal with how they're gonna feel right now". I'm serious.

If some one TRULY wants to quit meth & they can make it long enough, you will start to feel so much better about not being tweaked out. And you'll feel sorry for the people in your every day life that you see who can't seem to put it down because they think life will never be enjoyable again. But it can be & will be if you put in enough time to heal. Life will never make you feel as high as meth, but with enough time, you start to get those rushes of dopamine back from normal every day things, like going out to a festival, going to see fireworks, driving around for fun, falling in love, enjoying art & music again, having a normal healthy sex drive, it all comes back again if you just make it long enough without using meth.


Idk if I agree with the hostility towards opioid addicts or people on methadone though. Opioid users are nothing like tweakers honestly. I would know, as I've also been an opioid addict for 20 years. They are miracle drugs for people with severe depression & fibromyalgia or chronic pain issues. Everyone's drug use journey is gonna look different, there is no one size fits all approach for anybody. Only trial & error. It's actually not THAT easy to get on methadone either. You WILL be chained to a clinic. And most insurance does not actually cover the cost of the medicine, it only covers it if it gets prescribed & then sent to a pharmacy, which is not how methadone clinics work. Most methadone & suboxone clinics require that you also do therapy or even attend shit like NA. So I wouldn't say the US just "gives people methadone & sends them back out on the streets". You're required to go dose your methadone at a methadone clinic every day, some times for years, until they trust you enough to give you take home medicine. If you don't have reliable transportation or are some one who needs their medicine before they can focus on activities like driving, then you're screwed & your only other option is Subs.
 
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they fucked up by describing it as really terribl, but it's really hepful for som.

idea: prove u have a supplly and source for meth .

get low cost dexies

or just straight up desoxyn

then buy it from the chemist.

we are not build to dose and vape meth in a glass pipe!!
 
^This is a point I make with meth often

desoxyn `10mg --- most people be doing at least a point of meth in a day -- through an instant ROA. That is over 10x the normal human dosage.

You take 10mg xanax's instead of 1mg it is going to be a wildy different experience that likely will lead to great amounts of trouble down the road if continued regularly.

We probably aren't made to ingest meth at all but there are certainly safer (Hard reducing) ways of doing it if you must. Frankly no judgement I am just not a stim person
 
^This is a point I make with meth often

desoxyn `10mg --- most people be doing at least a point of meth in a day -- through an instant ROA. That is over 10x the normal human dosage.

You take 10mg xanax's instead of 1mg it is going to be a wildy different experience that likely will lead to great amounts of trouble down the road if continued regularly.

We probably aren't made to ingest meth at all but there are certainly safer (Hard reducing) ways of doing it if you must. Frankly no judgement I am just not a stim person
Yeah I've noticed I can take lower doses of adderall & it'll actually make me sleepy & relaxed. Without all the terrible comedown effects you'd get after.
Actually I find regular amphetamine is a lot easier to come off of than methamphetamine. If I go on an adderall binge, I'll be tired for a day or two afterwards & have trouble focusing or feeling much pleasure from anything. But by day 2 or 3, I feel pretty back to normal.

With meth, for whatever reasons (I assume numerous), it takes me like an entire week or more to recover from just 1-3 days of meth use.

I think stimulants can be of value to be people, especially if they're able to keep their doses incredibly low & not go insane with it.
Very Low doses of stimulants can actually be good for your brain (in a neuro-protective way or so I've read in the past). But once you pass a certain threshold, they become neurotoxic.
 
the nights of sleep dep bleed into each other reliably.

what i would do for a medicinal supply of a therapeutic stim rn.

no sleep 3-4 nights in a row is so fucked for mi body

and teh DOUBT on the comedown omg
 
I know with meth the dopamine shoots up then takes more yobshoot as high as the first but if you can manage to stay clean your dopamine shoukd return to normal.

I never did meth everyday but every week yeah. Plus coke, fentanyl, the whole thing. Ended up in places I never thought I would. Nobody left behind me. It was sad. But I've managed to stay clean for two years and I get enjoyment now out of playing guitar or going out for coffee. Remember, clean from drug is good but clean mind is most important. Without it, clean time will prob collapse. Its a process you havevto go thru everyday. Its not hard. Shit, compared to how I used to live its simple. But worth it.

Just remember time takes time. I know thats not what you want to hear but if you give yourself a chance you shoukd start feeling better sooner than you think. Just repeat what you've done the time you've been clean. If Las Vegas is that bad, try to relocate. I know easier said then done but its your life at stake. You only get one. Youve already disconnected from tge drug. Just keep going. Stay out here on zbluelight where you can find support. Im rooting for you.
 
Just remember time takes time. I know thats not what you want to hear but if you give yourself a chance you shoukd start feeling better sooner than you think. Just repeat what you've done the time you've been clean. If Las Vegas is that bad, try to relocate. I know easier said then done but its your life at stake. You only get one. Youve already disconnected from tge drug. Just keep going. Stay out here on zbluelight where you can find support. Im rooting for you.

I actually make a solid 10k a month here and have an extremely low cost of living. I have a pretty badass job dealing cards at one of the high end joints on the strip.

I actually have plans to move to the U.A.E in 2027 so I’m hoping I get that upcoming casino job at the Wynn that’s set to open in Ras Al-Khaimah and it works out.

So far I’m a month sober and it’s getting easier, but the cravings when they do come they are out of this world. I’ve never made it this far sober and plan on pressing forward being anchored by the 5 Islamic prayers. I have made them a NON NEGOTIABLE and must be prayed on time.

Surah An-Nisa 4:103
“Indeed, prayer has been decreed upon the believers at specific appointed times.”

No time to meth or drink. Period

I’m shocked I never got caught or questioned about drug use since I handle large amounts of money in high limit rooms on games like Roulette,Blackjack, and Baccarat.
 
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