Hollowpoint2020
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Lemme tell ya about my friend.. and he’s only asking becauae the only option left to him seems to be obtaining opiates from the street… which he’s never done just a little blow in his younger party days, no needles/fent etc… but there seems to be not other relief possible…
apologize for the long post. Tryin to explain it well as he’s gettin to the end of his rope here….
Well it’s kinda a train wreck scenario here, he wound up taking a job out of province (Canada) 3 years ago, he works as a consultant in a very specific field. There are no days off and you work hundreds of days in a row sometimes or until project completion, the only exception being Dec 22nd to Jan 5th ish for the holidays. No time to travel back 13 hours each way to the AB boarder to fill his script every 4 weeks is where I’m going..
Long story they allowed his interprovincial oxy script for months (in the interest of reduced travel) and one day that covid exemption was rolled back. He didn’t even know he was operating under that premise. So he was stuck with one choice, lose his much needed job and go back to AB for the script , or accept the recommendation to go to the Chilliwack OAT clinic… he knew fuckin nothing about any of it or what OAT was even…
They gave him morphine, told em he don’t respond at all to it well in the past So he went from 120-200mg of oxy a day (for 15 years or so. to 1200mg of morph eslon a day in a week. After working 16 hours a day and then having to stand in line to witness daily, sometimes while his co workers occasionally came into the pharmacy and seen him in the “special line” he demanded something that will not add another hour to the day as hes almost fallin asleep at the wheel from exhaustion as it is.
Enter Suboxone micro induction. The worst motherfucking 10 days of his life, you’ll see one a past posts where he lost vision sorta.. at one point… the withdrawal was so bad that his pupils would not constrict even with an iPhone light on em in a bright bathroom, suspecting that being the cause somehow.
So now he’s fuckin tarred with this god damn Suboxone brush at 32mg a day for years, managed to cut to 16 in a month on his own. In the last 7 months the doctor started giving him 192 .25mg alpraz tablets per 4 weeks as well.
Doc refuses to give him any dillauded for the extreme days (wasn’t even at work this Xmas and couldn’t get outta bed without yelling and my dad helping him..) he has nobody in his corner and quality of life has disappeared completely. Like even in Chilliwack they would give some Dilly’s for the extreme pain, and when they ran out of that small supply there would be no WD cause he never stopped the subs… Dr refuses to accept this is physically possible… (he is the town dud of a Dr but there was no other options upon arrival) or provide any other options. He knows the patient got cornered into this drug.. but still put OUD as the first word in his chart.. even though he never ran out early, never smoked or poked, never fent, never street dope…. Passed every drug test with expected drugs present.. what more could he do..
2 questions…
1. Anyone in BC or AB that can point him to some kinda safe supply/patient advocate… for the god damn sanity/quality of life for what remains of it… he’s tired of screaming while getting outta bed, tired of wondering if he should keep going.. they’ve ruined him. He dont expect 500 dilly’s a month man. Give him 2-4 nights a month he can fuckin not wanna cry is all. He don’t give a fuck (the DR) it’s small town and
The patient may of sold dope years back like 15 (now 37 y/o) and the doc did a 180 once he found that out and only keeps the alpraz going cause he kinda has to.. some pain relief is needed in a major way he can’t do it anymore, can he make these subs work better somehow? He still gets 32mg a day… even though he cut down to 16.. at the dr advice… now being told he will never get anything for the rest of his life he told him he’s staying at 32 then why not…
2. Before his office assistant told him about my pals rumoured past, he aggressively suggested I switch from 10-20mg of Valium (20 pills a month) to those 192 .25mg alprazolam… I don’t know if it’s because of my extreme alcohol tolerance or what (currently sober and never mixes pills and booze when he rarely drinks) and has never got much relief on that front either. For theory sake what potentiators are out there other than grapefruit juice and Zantac ? He’s got access to Selank, Mexidol, Adaptol, Afobazole, Picamillion, Phenibut and Propanalol. Not looking to do anything dangerous, not even suggesting he will, just food for thought… at 360 pounds 6’2” and being active all day, his tolerance has been huge all his life, even with surgeries and getting put under is a a challenge to paint the picture..
A guy like that, whose in that much pain… what would he do in theory with the tools at his disposal to have an occasional smile or just not a fucking want to cry and give up 1-4 days a month (he ain’t askin for the world… but this marathon that guys been on is getting toooo long)
And as far as the major stress he endures working like that , the worst thing he can do is go back to 3-4 bottles of rye a day and ruin his life further… his old lady died a few years back and he’s tryin to move on and have a quality life..so making those Alpraz work a little better when needed would be worth it to him I’m sure to research on his own. And make his own call if need by, for conversation sake.
Someone help him get some pain relief… and maybe if possible some stress relief to before his heart pops one day. Thanks. Feel free to Dm
apologize for the long post. Tryin to explain it well as he’s gettin to the end of his rope here….
Well it’s kinda a train wreck scenario here, he wound up taking a job out of province (Canada) 3 years ago, he works as a consultant in a very specific field. There are no days off and you work hundreds of days in a row sometimes or until project completion, the only exception being Dec 22nd to Jan 5th ish for the holidays. No time to travel back 13 hours each way to the AB boarder to fill his script every 4 weeks is where I’m going..
Long story they allowed his interprovincial oxy script for months (in the interest of reduced travel) and one day that covid exemption was rolled back. He didn’t even know he was operating under that premise. So he was stuck with one choice, lose his much needed job and go back to AB for the script , or accept the recommendation to go to the Chilliwack OAT clinic… he knew fuckin nothing about any of it or what OAT was even…
They gave him morphine, told em he don’t respond at all to it well in the past So he went from 120-200mg of oxy a day (for 15 years or so. to 1200mg of morph eslon a day in a week. After working 16 hours a day and then having to stand in line to witness daily, sometimes while his co workers occasionally came into the pharmacy and seen him in the “special line” he demanded something that will not add another hour to the day as hes almost fallin asleep at the wheel from exhaustion as it is.
Enter Suboxone micro induction. The worst motherfucking 10 days of his life, you’ll see one a past posts where he lost vision sorta.. at one point… the withdrawal was so bad that his pupils would not constrict even with an iPhone light on em in a bright bathroom, suspecting that being the cause somehow.
So now he’s fuckin tarred with this god damn Suboxone brush at 32mg a day for years, managed to cut to 16 in a month on his own. In the last 7 months the doctor started giving him 192 .25mg alpraz tablets per 4 weeks as well.
Doc refuses to give him any dillauded for the extreme days (wasn’t even at work this Xmas and couldn’t get outta bed without yelling and my dad helping him..) he has nobody in his corner and quality of life has disappeared completely. Like even in Chilliwack they would give some Dilly’s for the extreme pain, and when they ran out of that small supply there would be no WD cause he never stopped the subs… Dr refuses to accept this is physically possible… (he is the town dud of a Dr but there was no other options upon arrival) or provide any other options. He knows the patient got cornered into this drug.. but still put OUD as the first word in his chart.. even though he never ran out early, never smoked or poked, never fent, never street dope…. Passed every drug test with expected drugs present.. what more could he do..
2 questions…
1. Anyone in BC or AB that can point him to some kinda safe supply/patient advocate… for the god damn sanity/quality of life for what remains of it… he’s tired of screaming while getting outta bed, tired of wondering if he should keep going.. they’ve ruined him. He dont expect 500 dilly’s a month man. Give him 2-4 nights a month he can fuckin not wanna cry is all. He don’t give a fuck (the DR) it’s small town and
The patient may of sold dope years back like 15 (now 37 y/o) and the doc did a 180 once he found that out and only keeps the alpraz going cause he kinda has to.. some pain relief is needed in a major way he can’t do it anymore, can he make these subs work better somehow? He still gets 32mg a day… even though he cut down to 16.. at the dr advice… now being told he will never get anything for the rest of his life he told him he’s staying at 32 then why not…
2. Before his office assistant told him about my pals rumoured past, he aggressively suggested I switch from 10-20mg of Valium (20 pills a month) to those 192 .25mg alprazolam… I don’t know if it’s because of my extreme alcohol tolerance or what (currently sober and never mixes pills and booze when he rarely drinks) and has never got much relief on that front either. For theory sake what potentiators are out there other than grapefruit juice and Zantac ? He’s got access to Selank, Mexidol, Adaptol, Afobazole, Picamillion, Phenibut and Propanalol. Not looking to do anything dangerous, not even suggesting he will, just food for thought… at 360 pounds 6’2” and being active all day, his tolerance has been huge all his life, even with surgeries and getting put under is a a challenge to paint the picture..
A guy like that, whose in that much pain… what would he do in theory with the tools at his disposal to have an occasional smile or just not a fucking want to cry and give up 1-4 days a month (he ain’t askin for the world… but this marathon that guys been on is getting toooo long)
And as far as the major stress he endures working like that , the worst thing he can do is go back to 3-4 bottles of rye a day and ruin his life further… his old lady died a few years back and he’s tryin to move on and have a quality life..so making those Alpraz work a little better when needed would be worth it to him I’m sure to research on his own. And make his own call if need by, for conversation sake.
Someone help him get some pain relief… and maybe if possible some stress relief to before his heart pops one day. Thanks. Feel free to Dm
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