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Been gifted a authentic and wedinos tested Quualude from 1970s. What dose?

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To keep it short, I have in my possession 2 x 300mg Lemmon Quualudes. All wedinos tested and legit.

What should the starting dose be? I've heard 300mg is the usual, but erowid also says 300mg and up can be fatal for first time users.

Any advice?

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I don't see how one is going to kill you as long as you don't drink with it or add any other type of depressants, like opioids or benzos. One pill was pretty standard for a lot of friends of mine. I will say that one time I took one right before going for a soak and sex in a hot tub and I got sick for a couple days after. No sexy time for me that night!
Yeah, I too have 4 left over from ancient times ( Rorer 714s) I never actually liked them recreationally at all, I hate being so sleepy. I keep them " just in case", for what I don't know. Maybe suicide if life really goes to shit someday. So far, so good...
 
Idk id hide the other one if I could?

start with a half and if not sufficient the other half.

This may be disappointing though, but unsure if Methaqualone is like Barbs where they are dangerous just on their on,
 
All the recent test results from Wedinos are either etaqualone or SL-164. Wedinos has only ever tested positive for methaqualone twice, both instances a few years ago.

An authentic 'quaalude' from this country would be branded Mandrax. We had Mandies, not 'ludes. Are you 100% sure this is real?
 
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Some well informed and highly educated people say that meds like benzos don't lose potency over time.

I guess it depends how much time though.

50 years obviously is a long time! Vitamins etc are known to lose their efficacy over time, but I guess it depends on the type of med, and it's stability over time, and how it was stored etc.

All assuming they are real, as @Perkins : Reborn has already pointed out there have been no positive tests for methaqualone in the UK for a few years.

Wasn't there a very similar thread knocking around some time ago, about someone else having acquired some ancient meds of a similar type?
 
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A 50-yr-old lude?
I'd surprised if it does anything at all.
We never had ludes in this country. Just Mandrax / Mandies.

Wedinos doesn't have any positive results for that, save for one or two in the past five years. The likelihood is that this pill is etaqualone at best.

And like @Bleaney says, we had one example of Tuinal in recent years.
 
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Also, I think a lot of people romanticize Quaalude/Mandrax. They weren't all that. Very similar to benzos, but more physically destabilizing-- hence the nickname Stumble Biscuits.
I mean, some people loved them. I suspect I'd have been one of them. Many others probably found them underwhelming or not at all recreational.
 
We always romanticize the things that are no longer around. I saw that real time with etizolam. When it was all over the place for cheap there were complaints on it being weak and people going up to 20 mgs a day. Now that it has been banned in some places people remember the good ol days of one of the best benzos. I admit it was the only benzo i needed around for occasion. It seemed safe for use unlike the super strong benzos that came out after. Glad I never had those.

Even though quaaludes are romanticized they really were much more euphoric than a benzo for me. Even more than secobarbital. Like I always said it was like a 6 pack in a pill. Felt like I slammed 5-6 beers in a half hour and stumbled around school. It would wear off before I got on the bus to go home. After high school when I moved to Houston Texas they were coming in as mandrax, but what I did not know was mandrax also added diphenhydramine to the methaqualone. (I honestly can not stand diphenhydramine). Used then to come down of the good cocaine we had that year before resorting to heroin for that. But after say 1984 I never saw a quaalude or mandrax again.

If I were to guess, if it were more available many people here at BL would have issues. When benzos became the standard prescription it seemed they really did find a way to take the kick out of methaqualone or barbiturates and created a pill that just hit even more specific (and boring) receptors. Then people were taking handfuls of Roche valiums and having to take shots of whiskey as opposed to one pill without alcohol in an attempt to get high.
 
Still can't find a positive for methaqualone on Wedinos since 2021. The only other positive was a year earlier. Plenty of recent results for etaqualone, but wasn't that supposed to be a bit rubbish?

I think some Wolf of Wall Street hype has inspired a few unscrupulous dealers.
 
Plenty of recent results for etaqualone, but wasn't that supposed to be a bit rubbish?
Surprised to see that making a comeback! I really thought that it was a once in a lifetime thing, and gone for good.

It was not good orally, seeing as the dose required to get high was far too close to the lethal o/d dose. With virtually no window for error.

I think most people with any sense were terrified of it, as the main vendor also issued extremely strongly worded warnings about the substance being very unforgiving of dosing errors.

People were saying that sublingual dosing avoided that particular problem, but complained of chemical burns or ulcers via that method of dosing.

I think I bought 2 or 3 g, IIRC, and used the majority of that gradually working upwards with the oral doses, but always staying well short of the dangerous range. It never did anything at all.

Finally, when I only had enough left for one dose, I tried it sublingually, and it worked very very well for me. I loved it!

No ulcers or chemical burns either.

For better or worse, by that time it was too late to get any more, as the ban hammer had struck, and I had let the fire sales at crazily cheap prices pass me by without being tempted.

I'd have probably been OK if I'd bought 5 - 10 g in the fire sales. Then enjoyed it for it's brief period of availability, and then it was gone for ever (or so I thought at the time.)

I shouldn't have been able to get myself into too much bother with 5 - 10g. It probably was highly physically addictive with nasty w/ds.
 
Just to correct any misunderstandings, my experience was that sublingual dosing was a highly effective ROA with effects I liked very much. But the high was brief, (60-90 minutes IIRC) and it did come with the likelyhood of ulcers.

The oral ROA was hopeless and dangerous.

Presumably the bio-availability is much better sublingually, so you didn't need to take doses that were anywhere near as close to the dangerous or lethal range.
 
I'd be surprised if it was ever as dangerous as the vendors let on. Making that claim would mean they could say 'oh, you didn't hit the sweet spot' or similar. Whereas if there really was a sweet spot it'd have sold out straight off and we'd have multiple accounts of how great it was. Instead, we got a lot of accounts of it being woefully crap.

Even Erowid only has two accounts of anybody using it. Both disappointing.
 
Yeah it just never sold. The vendor may well have been playing on the safe side with the dose warnings, but who can blame them for that. No one wants hundreds of deaths on their hands to account for.

As I mentioned, sublingual did work very well, but most people were probably put off trying that ROA by the reports of ulcers or chemical burns.

As I was until the very last dose, by which point I was at the 'fuck it' / nothing to lose stage, and I decided I could risk a potential and probably temporary ulcer.
 
Can't remember any reported deaths though and Erowid doesn't have anything. You'd expect at least a few deaths if it had been as strong as claimed.

I reckon it was known to be crap to begin with and the stories about its strength were a diversion from that. But the vendors had kilo upon kilo to shift. And then tell people they need to use relatively high doses.

The vendors were already pushing complete crap before that.
 
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