Been gifted a authentic and wedinos tested Quualude from 1970s. What dose?

[Zopiclone bandit]

Every type of drug just got worse and worse in terms of it's effects and safety profile as they got closer and closer to scraping the bottom of the barrel, long after the first wave of products were banned, with some of the first wave of products being amazing.

100% Truth.

That was the conclusion I came to also, people who were good at Chemistry were just cooking up any old drug stew with no concern to the actual effect of what the "drug" did. For me the real warning was when a-pvp came out, yeah I am guilty of going mad with it & using it like an idiot but it was also "dirty" too & was in a way the kinda drug equal to people who use Krokodil or huff glue, it's the mentality of "Hell yeah this will fuck me up" & you use it yet it's damn nasty in so many ways & makes you into a proper "dope fiend" with nothing proper about it.

The Chinese labs were just cooking up anything that was in the cathinone class & not even trying it out, the days of Shulgin type stuff were long gone, it was now down to how cheap something could be made, did it fuck you up & make you want to keep taking more? if the answer was yes to both well make a few kilo of the stuff & let it loose onto the market, fuck the results, it may make you turn blue, make your arms drop off, cause you to have some unknown type of neurological disorder in a decade but it costs £200 per kilo to make & you can sell it for £10 per gram, well fuck yeah get cooking lads, we will be rich in 12 months time.

Eric The Methadrone Overlord who got caught out by the paper learned that lesson the hard way & in the book called "Drugs 2.0: The Web Revolution That's Changing how the World Gets High" by Mike Power said about the state of some of the labs in China, Rat shit & piss on the floor, deadly chemicals all over the place etc, people think in rural Russia Krokodil is cooked up in a dirty way from the sounds of things many Chinese labs weren't that far removed from some Kitchen or bathroom in Rural Russia where people cook that shit all day.

The RC market was a victim of it's own huge & rapid success, it was Raw & Pure Capitalism at it's worst form.

In a way yeah Shulgin cooked his stuff up the best he could, it was a clean lab etc BUT what he did with those two books was a ticking time bomb in a way, human nature & the desire to make cash was a sure "car-crash" waiting to happen imho.

 

[4DQSAR]

I read a great article about him recently- according to that he was staunchly drug free until he hit his early 50s and then decided to jump into PCP with gay abandon.

Who? @F.U.B.A.R. ? He's a dark horse...

 

[Bleaney]

Disappointingly, a potentially interesting order I'd made, which included some samples of 2-Methoxyqualone did not end up getting dispatched and delivered in time for my long weekend, due to a formatting error I seem to have made with the message system. I'll have to wait now for my next opportunity to try these things....

But in the meantime I'm having another go with my Herboven, and doing an infusion this time in MCT oil and Lecithin which is meant to increase the absorption, speed, reliability, and potency of the onset of the infused flower.

I didn't think of starting the process until a short time ago, so it'll be early evening before the mixture is ready, but hopefully that will still give me a few hours to experience the effects before I fall asleep. Last time I tried I fell asleep before the effects fully kicked in, but I woke the next morning still very stoned!

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Well you'll just have to wait for those ulcers and the disappointment.

 

[4DQSAR]

I know etaqualone briefly turned up as an RC but again, that researcher in South Africa didn't find a single Mandrax tablet containing it. However you slice it, only in South Africa has there been a 50+ long pattern of abuse. So if etaqualone (and the 2 methoxy homologue) were not detected, chances are the market wouldn't accept them.

I've only seen a single example of someone 'cooking' Mandrax and I would not touch the stuff. It isn't particularly potent and as far as I can tell, although their is a solvent-free synthesis, the workup looks messy.

People tell me vaping is the way to go. But no safety data is extant but in South Africa, it does seem that users do suffer specific health issues.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

I wonder how the alleged quinquagenarian American downer was?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

etaqualone ...

... People tell me vaping is the way to go.

Got 1 gram Etaqualone once, real thing trusted vendor. Dosed orally at first titrating up.
Got nowhere dosing high as 150 mg. Laid it aside for a while. Then one time was desperate threw a little bit on a bed of Weed. It was like it was ment to be vaped/ smoked.

Hit instantly, had to lay down, a very intense euphoric sedative unlike anything.
GHB/ GBL is euphoric but uppity when not overdone, if then it get s irritating when trying to stay awake. This was a downer that felt good while not being able to keep my eyes open or remain sitting. Was over pretty quick hedonistic A.F. could re-dose and the same would happen. Remind s a lot of Nitrous somehow.

Didn t feel particularly safe btw, way to powerful. Never bought it again.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Got 1 gram Etaqualone once, real thing trusted vendor. Dosed orally at first titrating up.
Got nowhere dosing high as 150 mg. Laid it aside for a while. Then one time was desperate threw a little bit on a bed of Weed. It was like it was ment to be vaped/ smoked.

Hit instantly, had to lay down, a very intense euphoric sedative unlike anything.
GHB/ GBL is euphoric but uppity when not overdone, if then it get s irritating when trying to stay awake. This was a downer that felt good while not being able to keep my eyes open or remain sitting. Was over pretty quick hedonistic A.F. could re-dose and the same would happen. Remind s a lot of Nitrous somehow.

Didn t feel particularly safe btw, way to powerful. Never bought it again.

Why do you think it's never been even popular enough to make it to Erowid (apart from two accounts)?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Why do you think it's never been even popular enough to make it to Erowid (apart from two accounts)?

The price. And the dosages orally needed. In France it was a prescription.
These tablets seem to have been dosed 350 mg. Never took such a dose oral.

But would mean 3 doses in a gram. Etizolam was dirt cheap. Att. & way safer.

 

[Bleaney]

Got 1 gram Etaqualone once, real thing trusted vendor. Dosed orally at first titrating up.
Got nowhere dosing high as 150 mg. Laid it aside for a while. Then one time was desperate threw a little bit on a bed of Weed. It was like it was ment to be vaped/ smoked.

Hit instantly, had to lay down, a very intense euphoric sedative unlike anything.
GHB/ GBL is euphoric but uppity when not overdone, if then it get s irritating when trying to stay awake. This was a downer that felt good while not being able to keep my eyes open or remain sitting. Was over pretty quick hedonistic A.F. could re-dose and the same would happen. Remind s a lot of Nitrous somehow.

Didn t feel particularly safe btw, way to powerful. Never bought it again.

Oral dosing was hopeless and potentially dangerous. I for one, believed the vendor's warnings about high oral doses being dangerous, even though some are skeptical.

I found the effects of sublingual dosing very enjoyable. I cant recall if I tried smoking / vaping it (I don't think I did)

I'm currently trying to get some of these new 2-Methoxyqualone tablets. Unfortunately for me I seem to have chosen the most difficult, disorganised, and shambolic vendor on a certain platform. If they weren't the only vendor that has certain other products that I desire very strongly (GBL), there is no way I would use them again. Bad customer service from vendors really winds me up. I'm generally pretty good at keeping my cool online by this stage of my life. At least when talking to individual people. Going away to cool down before responding if needs be, or just chosing not to respond.. But when vendors appear to be taking the piss to a massive extent, I start losing my rag, and doing myself no favors.

Sorry for going off topic. Sometimes writing about ones issues is meant to help. At least in the form of "journaling" anyway. I don't see why that would be any different to posting online. It's still your thoughts and issues made more objective by being out of your head and put on paper or screen. In theory. Especially when you come back and re-read the next day, or a few days later.

Sorry again, for even more off topic ramblings.

 

[Bleaney]

Why do you think it's never been even popular enough to make it to Erowid (apart from two accounts)?

I read or heard somewhere recently that huge swathes of Erowid experience reports have been removed, taken down, deleted. I don't remember any reason being provided. But seeing as there used to be reports on virtually everything you could possibly think of on there, all manner of combinations too, I think that Etaqualone has likely also had many reports made unavailable.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

I read or heard somewhere recently that huge swathes of Erowid experience reports have been removed, taken down, deleted. I don't remember any reason being provided. But seeing as there used to be reports on virtually everything you could possibly think of on there, all manner of combinations too, I think that Etaqualone has likely also had many reports made unavailable.

So why would Erowid remove (most of) the reports on etaqualone but leave some more dangerous drugs there? Phenazepam, for example? Datura?

Nope. The truth is it's just shite, and nobody can be arsed to bother.

 

[Bleaney]

The removals weren't anything to do with how dangerous any substance was. I think it was that Poi guy on youtube that mentioned them. But I've watched so many of his videos that it'd be very difficult to find that specific video again for further details.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

YouTube? Okay. Trust that completely. Who's the poi guy? The poo guy?

All you have to do is search for Erowid and the substance in question and they're not taken down. They're just not available from the main menu.

Still three accounts in total.

EDIT: Two.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Oral dosing was hopeless and potentially dangerous. I for one, believed the vendor's warnings about high oral doses being dangerous, even though some are skeptical.

Never knew that, assumed that it having been prescription 350 mg. Which might have been a minimum like some might have taken double. Without significant ill effect s.
Talking oral, heating felt unsafe it hit like a rockwit a little bit.

The site were it came from also had 4-Methylmethaqualone reports on vaping/ smoking a the thin line between recreational and OD Afaik. Etaqualone seemed the weakest and shortest acting. And the 4 Methyl one most dangerous. Qualudes in the middle. ~

These ludes were dosed 300 mg so how many did people take 1 or 2. Ifso it seem safe to say for Etaqualone the same goes.

I found the effects of sublingual dosing very enjoyable. I cant recall if I tried smoking / vaping it (I don't think I did)

If that would have known back in the day ! People being habitual animal s. Swallowing pill s never read about people sublingual these. Did see them smoked in South Africa. They don t even attempt to vape em.

They torch em. Wasteful as Etha when slightly heated melted in the Weed and the vapor gave a nice tasing white cloud after exhaling. After i would ignite the Weed but there didn t seem to much of the stuff leftover. That first little bit like 1/4 size of carrier.
Would hit like a bomb. it leveled didn t feel particular dangerous when prepared.

But extremely fiending why i compared it to N2O. Dangerous as have no idea what would happen with 10 gram on hand. But the OP only has 2 but should def sublingual them. How much more effective is that ROA ?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

So why would Erowid remove (most of) the reports on etaqualone but leave some more dangerous drugs there? Phenazepam, for example? Datura?

Nope. The truth is it's just shite, and nobody can be arsed to bother.

If it is shit Methaqualone is. Difference potency and half live.
Maybe better binding affinity, but that could also make it more dangerous.

 

[Bleaney]

How much more effective is that ROA ?

A lot more. I presume the bioavailability was higher, meaning lower doses were more effective. By the time I was down to my last dose, I only had enough for an oral dose that I knew from previous experience, would not do anything.

So I decided to try s/l, and it was very enjoyable. Only lasted a short time though. I cant recall exactly how long.. But it was definitely far too short. Maybe an hour or less.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

If it is shit Methaqualone is. Difference potency and half live.
Maybe better binding affinity, but that could also make it more dangerous.

In this country, 'Mandies' were common, and a modest oral dose would get people high (and aroused - 'randy mandies', as they were nicknamed. 'Randy' meaning 'horny' to colonials). And were stronger than 'ludes.

This? Shite. Totally different.

 

[Spoonkter]

To keep it short, I have in my possession 2 x 300mg Lemmon Quualudes. All wedinos tested and legit.

What should the starting dose be? I've heard 300mg is the usual, but erowid also says 300mg and up can be fatal for first time users.

Any advice?

Cheers

SR

Show pics!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Show pics!!!!!!!!!!

They were supposedly Wedinos tested, but there are no recent tests for methaqualone.

They were probably cough drops.