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Starmer - "I wont change drug laws - so tongue my arse. In technicolour"

It's over 50%. But if a country doesn't have an election in 19 years, that's a whole generation taken out.

Anyway, back to the 'resistance' on October the 7th, eh? Explain why you justify this.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
This was the most recent quote from me, which hasn't been addressed:

He's attempting to use atrocities from nearly eighty years ago to justify / excuse the massacre of over a thousand civilians in one day.
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well yeah october 7th was disgusting operation that caused innocent people terrible suffering. Lots of arbitrary violence.

fuck, I just woke up and my words don't really make impression I am particularly emotional about it, but I just want to make clear I judge it.
 
Both sides are greatly at fault.

It's a 5,000 year old argument at least, amongst family members for an inheritance. Should the world get involved?

On one hand it IS a family argument even though it's that old. Should the world interfere with this argument or has the worlds shrunk so much that we can no longer turn our backs on the issue because it affects us all?

Yet even further... Could we stop this at all, or is this a war that has been destined since the dawn of time? Which of us can tell for sure?
 
Israel has made it very clear that this whole thing is about taking land, living space for its people. I think it's rather naive to assume this has anything to do with religion in reality
 
Because fewer members are just what you need, right? I sometimes think there's an agenda to remove this subforum entirely.

Go and cover for your Islamist-sympathising fellow smod.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
It all stems from religion. That's pretty much what established the makeup of the Levant. The Hebrews went one way and established Judaism, other tribes went down other routes. Then some Jews started a new cult (Christianity), and a few hundred years down the line, an Arab makes up his own.
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The following is not what I believe but what Judaism does:

There is no differentiation for Israel, the state directly gets its power from the belief.

Ishmael (the brother that did not receive the inheritance) formed another family that lived in the desert; It was this tribe that helped Moses when he escaped from Egypt. Moses married one of the family so the family of Ishmael was amongst the Hebrews that left Egypt but she never reached Israel because she stayed with Moses before they crossed the river Jordan to inherit Israel the land.

Christianity was not a cult of the Hebrews, the Hebrews rejected Christ and Crucified him. Christians were mostly Gentiles.
 
Pissed_and_messed said:
Wait a fucking minute...we have manufactured three pages of off-topic?

Maybe people should continue in CEPS about this matter? And if moderator decisions do not please you, I remind that I am not going to discuss about them in here because it disrupts the thread, it has real purpose aside of it.
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Off topic is the way we roll in EADD baby, you should know that by now P&M :ROFLMAO:

So yeh, back on topic, Starmer is a slimy cunt
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
The following is not what I believe but what Judaism does:

There is no differentiation for Israel, the state directly gets its power from the belief.

Ishmael (the brother that did not receive the inheritance) formed another family that lived in the desert; It was this tribe that helped Moses when he escaped from Egypt. Moses married one of the family so the family of Ishmael was amongst the Hebrews that left Egypt but she never reached Israel because she stayed with Moses before they crossed the river Jordan to inherit Israel the land.

Christianity was not a cult of the Hebrews, the Hebrews rejected Christ and Crucified him. Christians were mostly Gentiles.
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The early followers of Jesus (if you believe he actually existed) had to be Jews. There was no separation. It was one of many different schools like the Essenes. Jews were a disparate bunch at the time. Count the number of messiah claimants - it's pretty wild.

Paul (a Jew) decided to include the gentiles decades after the crucifixion (supposedly) took place. It was the cause of an argument with Peter, who believed followers of Jesus (there was no 'Christianity' as yet) should continue to follow Jewish law.

It took a couple of centuries for Christianity to become completely distinct.

Moses almost definitely didn't exist, or was a composite of different characters. Just like Jesus. And the Egyptian captivity appears to have been a folk tale too.

As for the crucifixion, that wasn't a Jewish punishment, but totally Roman. Jews would have ordered him to be stoned to death.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
The early followers of Jesus (if you believe he actually existed) had to be Jews. There was no separation. It was one of many different schools like the Essenes. Jews were a disparate bunch at the time. Count the number of messiah claimants - it's pretty wild.

Paul (a Jew) decided to include the gentiles decades after the crucifixion (supposedly) took place. It was the cause of an argument with Peter, who believed followers of Jesus (there was no 'Christianity' as yet) should continue to follow Jewish law.
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Yes, the Apostles were Hebrews as were many of the early followers, but the fact is that most of the Hebrews in fact rejected that he was the Messiah. The Temple Priests and scribes as well as Herod openly rejected Christ, so much they actually caused the crucifixion. The Romans had no interest in Killing Christ it was the Temple Rulers and all the faithful followers of the Temple who screamed that Christ be crucified when Pilate tried to release Him. Christianity was was not a Hebrew Cult, it was the fulfillment of the prophesy that the Priests rejected.

Their reward was having their rebellion squashed by the Romans and the destruction of the Temple 40 years after Christ's death.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
Yes, the Apostles were Hebrews as were many of the early followers, but the fact is that most of the Hebrews in fact rejected that he was the Messiah. The Temple Priests and scribes as well as Herod openly rejected Christ, so much they actually caused the crucifixion. The Romans had no interest in Killing Christ it was the Temple Rulers and all the faithful followers of the Temple who screamed that Christ be crucified when Pilate tried to release Him. Christianity was was not a Hebrew Cult, it was the fulfillment of the prophesy that the Priests rejected.

Their reward was having their rebellion squashed by the Romans and the destruction of the Temple 40 years after Christ's death.
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The Jewish people in that era were not like the present Jews. Rabbinic Judaism didn't exist. It was numerous disparate factions, some violent toward each other.

Messiah claimants were all over the place at that time, as the Jews wanted rid of Roman rule and counted on it being foretold in the scriptures.

Which Herod are you referring to (important)?

We have very good records of Pilate. We have no record of him crucifying the 'king of the Jews'. Discredited Testimonium Flavianum aside.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
The Jewish people in that era were not like the present Jews. Rabbinic Judaism didn't exist.
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I'm quite aware of that.


Perkins : Reborn said:
It was numerous disparate factions, some violent toward each other.\
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The factions didn't begin until the Romans put down the revolution by the Hebrews in 79 AD Which was also when the temple was destroyed and the Romans named the land Palestine
Once the Temple was destroyed the priests could no longer make sacrifices and the move towards various religious sects started.
Yes Barabas was another one. In fact, Pilate offered to release Christ the day before Passover, but the crowd called out for Barabas to be released instead. The Priests and and Scribes supported Barabas because Barabas wanted a Revolution from Roman Control while Christ taught forgiveness and love.

Herod also rejected Christ, but did so by having all first born males under 2 years of age in the vicinity of Bethlehem in the year of Christ's birth. He died 4 BC, so 29 years before the crucifixion
 
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