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[F.U.B.A.R.]

it regularly terrorizes Palestinians in the west bank and supports settlers who attack them. thats not even mentioning what they have been doing in Gaza for the past 70 years

it also strikes countries around Israel, for no reason. there has not been a single instance where Israel was attacked first

have you heard of the USS Liberty? US ship that Israel attacked for no reason

OK, but all countries do bad shit, including ours.

However, a quick Google of islamist terror attacks shows this:

According to a study by the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, between September 11, 2001, and April 21, 2019, there were 31,221 Islamist terrorism attacks globally, which killed at least 146,811 people.


Christians don't do that, Hindus don't do that, Sikhs don't do that, Jews don't do that. No fucker apart from islamists do that.

 

[Deleted member 576750]

OK, but all countries do bad shit, including ours.

However, a quick Google of islamist terror attacks shows this:

According to a study by the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, between September 11, 2001, and April 21, 2019, there were 31,221 Islamist terrorism attacks globally, which killed at least 146,811 people.


Christians don't do that, Hindus don't do that, Sikhs don't do that, Jews don't do that. No fucker apart from islamists do that.

why are you conflating territorial expansion and colonialism with religion? thats rather bigoted. Israel has been stealing land from people and those people are fighting back, it's not religious it's political

how many far right white nationalist terror attacks have happened?

the terrorists always seem to be far right fundamentalists of any religion

did you know there are far right Hindu extremists? Buddhist as well

 

[Deleted member 576750]

No supporter of the settlers at all. But the remainder of the West Bank citizens aren't all singing Kum Ba Ya. There's a heavy terrorist presence there.

As for Israel never being attacked first, what was October the 7th? Did some blissed out Israeli raver decide to fire a mortar and provoke a reaction? Or was it planned by Hamas and Iran for a year beforehand?

have you heard of the nakba? Israel has been an oppressive apartheid state for decades

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

did you know there are far right Hindu extremists?

Care to tell me where that word "Hindu" came from to begin with?
Anyone who is a follower of any school of Sanātana Dharmis from Aaiyyanist Tantrics to your average house holder has no desire to kill.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

have you heard of the nakba? Israel has been an oppressive apartheid state for decades

Yes, I've heard of the Nakba. Deplorable.

But how does that justify or ameliorate October the 7th, 77 years later?

EDIT: Does this mean we can get all the RA together, supply them with arms and then allow them to attempt to take over the Six Counties? Because that appears to be your logic.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

But terrorism isn't their MO, unlike the Islamists.

They have for ages used to arrest people randomly and just let them go after a day suddenly without even interrogation in order to only terrorize people-this kind of arbitrary behaviour that implies anything can happen and we have sovereignty over you is form of terrorism. This is only ONE example I can come up in 5 seconds and I have followed a lot of journalists content.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

why are you conflating territorial expansion and colonialism with religion? thats rather bigoted. Israel has been stealing land from people and those people are fighting back, it's not religious it's political

how many far right white nationalist terror attacks have happened?

the terrorists always seem to be far right fundamentalists of any religion

did you know there are far right Hindu extremists? Buddhist as well

I suggest you go study Leary's 8 Neurological Circuit Model.

The words you use show a very damaged view of reality.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

But how does that justify or ameliorate October the 7th, 77 years later?

Was there attempt doing so?

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

OK, but all countries do bad shit, including ours.

However, a quick Google of islamist terror attacks shows this:

According to a study by the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, between September 11, 2001, and April 21, 2019, there were 31,221 Islamist terrorism attacks globally, which killed at least 146,811 people.


Christians don't do that, Hindus don't do that, Sikhs don't do that, Jews don't do that. No fucker apart from islamists do that.

factually incorrect. White far right violence, christianity involved or not, is just rarely called terrorism, but it is common in USA for example.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306 also, there are buddhist terrorism.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Was there attempt doing so?

I've asked him to justify October the 7th. He's pulling out examples from British Mandatory Palestine, seventy-odd years ago.

But hey, that means I can go to my uncle's place, dust off the auld Armalite and head up to Newry on a shooting spree because of increasingly distant history.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

What comment was that? I tried to track down this logic but couldn't find it.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

What comment was that? I tried to track down this logic but couldn't find it.

This was the most recent quote from me, which hasn't been addressed:

Yes, I've heard of the Nakba. Deplorable.

But how does that justify or ameliorate October the 7th, 77 years later?

EDIT: Does this mean we can get all the RA together, supply them with arms and then allow them to attempt to take over the Six Counties? Because that appears to be your logic.

He's attempting to use atrocities from nearly eighty years ago to justify / excuse the massacre of over a thousand civilians in one day.

 

[Deleted member 576750]

I've asked him to justify October the 7th. He's pulling out examples from British Mandatory Palestine, seventy-odd years ago.

But hey, that means I can go to my uncle's place, dust off the auld Armalite and head up to Newry on a shooting spree because of increasingly distant history.

because there have been continual incidents of Israeli soldiers and settlers killing Palestinians ever since. its been a constant apartheid state which slaughters innocent Palestinians

the Palestinians have a right to resist under international law

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Nobody has the right to invade their neighbour and rape, torture and kill over a thousand people, many of whom would ironically be Palestine supporters.

That's not 'resistance'. It's barbarism. It's murder.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Just had a message saying that one of my posts has been deleted for 'condoning violence'. Anyone that knows me knows that I don't condone violence.

It doesn't say which post, or who has deleted it.

Is this the way that BL is going now? Mods hiding behind a veil of anonymity with no fear of challenge?

In my day you would have a quiet word with the perpetrator before brandishing that mod rod, giving them the chance to defend their post.

Place is going to shit.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Just had a message saying that one of my posts has been deleted for 'condoning violence'. Anyone that knows me knows that I don't condone violence.

It doesn't say which post, or who has deleted it.

Is this the way that BL is going now? Mods hiding behind a veil of anonymity with no fear of challenge?

In my day you would have a quiet word with the perpetrator before brandishing that mod rod, giving them the chance to defend their post.

Place is going to shit.

Ironically, the person who's actually advocating / justifying violence is a senior mod.

 

[Deleted member 576750]

"Israeli war crimes are violations of international criminal law, including war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of genocide, which Israeli security forces have committed or been accused of committing since the founding of Israel in 1948. These have included murder, intentional targeting of civilians, killing prisoners of war and surrendered combatants, indiscriminate attacks, collective punishment, starvation, persecution, the use of human shields, sexual violence and rape, torture, pillage, forced transfer, breach of medical neutrality, enforced disappearance, targeting journalists, attacking civilian and protected objects, wanton destruction, incitement to genocide, and genocide."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

because there have been continual incidents of Israeli soldiers and settlers killing Palestinians ever since. its been a constant apartheid state which slaughters innocent Palestinians

the Palestinians have a right to resist under international law

Okay, I have to ask: in what scale you accept the resistance and was the october 7th sensible reaction? I am just trying to figure out things here.

 

[Deleted member 576750]

Okay, I have to ask: in what scale you accept the resistance and was the october 7th sensible reaction? I am just trying to figure out things here.

the same scale as the Warsaw uprising

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

"Israeli war crimes are violations of international criminal law, including war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of genocide, which Israeli security forces have committed or been accused of committing since the founding of Israel in 1948. These have included murder, intentional targeting of civilians, killing prisoners of war and surrendered combatants, indiscriminate attacks, collective punishment, starvation, persecution, the use of human shields, sexual violence and rape, torture, pillage, forced transfer, breach of medical neutrality, enforced disappearance, targeting journalists, attacking civilian and protected objects, wanton destruction, incitement to genocide, and genocide."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

Still waiting for your justification of October the 7th.

Or should I say your explicit justification.