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Mixed feelings about kratom

jasperkent said:
I get that.
I'm just saying that as addictions go, kratom is a fairly benign one.
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I agree only if you have constant access to it .heavy users without any will feel wd in less than a day .it wouldn't impact your life any more than a heavy caffine user although it would affect your finances .
 
brokedownpalace10 said:
I take Kratom about once a week. My dosage is about a gram or so since I take it for the "work encouraging" effect. No issues. I imagine twice a week for a short time or intermittently wouldn't hurt. I've done this for a few years.
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If you've done it for years then you are a responsible user ,most people if they had addictions to other drugs would be using it daily .if kratom is the only substance someone had access to I believe it would take alot of will power to not ingest it daily
 
jasperkent said:
Well, my oxycodone habit was costing me nearly $100 a day. My kratom habit costs me 3 or 4 bucks a day.
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Your lucky you live in the US. Sorry wait that's say 30 bucks a week x 4 =120 dollars plus shipping fees a month, for say 500 grams of powder .that's about right .some people spend more on lattes from Costa coffee bi monthly .I hope you get the chance to visit Thailand [if you havnt been]the kratom is amazing, you can either eat the leaves or buy a 2 litre freshly made ice cold tea drink at side of the road ,all the taxi drivers an even our 5 star hotel security guards were nibbling the leaves on the sly .it truly is a miracle plant .
 
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jasperkent said:
Well, my oxycodone habit was costing me nearly $100 a day. My kratom habit costs me 3 or 4 bucks a day.
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God that's so much for a habbit ,I've never tried anything heavier than dihdrocodine or codine or poppy seeds ,but on the rare occasion I get prescribed codiene ill eat the whole lot in days .I really want to experience the feeling of a pure opiate but don't mix in that type of social circles unfortunately or fortunately lol
 
Problem is buying bulk. That’s why i use it as a detox tool or just binge 50g in less than 3 days.
It’s hard having 5kg and not abusing it.

Im afraid 3 day of 24/7 extracts might even cause wd.

2-3years ago. 10-15g normal kratom made me opi-puke. Needing fans on me. Getting nauseous smoking cigs. I was probably on benzos tho.
 
Loquacious said:
Problem is buying bulk. That’s why i use it as a detox tool or just binge 50g in less than 3 days.
It’s hard having 5kg and not abusing it.

Im afraid 3 day of 24/7 extracts might even cause wd.

2-3years ago. 10-15g normal kratom made me opi-puke. Needing fans on me. Getting nauseous smoking cigs. I was probably on benzos tho.
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Making tea can stretch your supply further.just boil the tea for 10 minutes ,drain it through dish cloth etc and keep all the debris and scoop it into tinfoil and stick in freezer.there is still active ingredients in the mush so it helps as an emergency for wd
 
I usually let the mush settle, drink, then put new boiling water in it. Works fine for me. I do notice a big difference in hygroscopy between batches, strains.

Do you just pour water over the filled filter amd consume or let it sit for a bit?
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I used to pre-weigh doses and make kratom icecubes w some lemon juice.

Btw try a mug and wisking it if you want everything down at once.


I once baked kratom muffins that worked perfectly. Taste could be better though. Easy to dose.
 
Loquacious said:
I usually let the mush settle, drink, then put new boiling water in it. Works fine for me. I do notice a big difference in hygroscopy between batches, strains.

Do you just pour water over the filled filter amd consume or let it sit for a bit?
Edit:i cant read apparently

I used to pre-weigh doses and make kratom icecubes w some lemon juice.

Btw try a mug and wisking it if you want everything down at once.


I once baked kratom muffins that worked perfectly. Taste could be better though. Easy to dose.
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Sounds good. Unfortunately in the morning I only had time to toss and wash due to work but in the evenings I'd make tea ,quite strong.im used to the taste now and quite enjoy the strong tea numbing my lips slightly
 
Have you ever tried a “yellow” strain? Stuff was straight up spicy. I liked it as a novelty. Felt like when i fortify my kratom w extracts.

But man if this rattle isnt over tomorrow im getting more kratom. For the days i need to perform. It covers benzo taper wd in a strange way.
I feel ready to neck 2-3gs of extract but sick of getting sick.
 
I've tried nearly all strains but settled on white ,gives more energy ,dislike red strains although supposed to be better for benzo wd .never had extract except from a head shop years ago but never touched that 7oh stuff
 
The 7-oh is probably available but i already know a 10g bag will fuck my shit up. Bet its as expensive as dope. (Even though kratom extracts have been better deals than a bag of dope. I feel like the dope lost it’s magic around the start of 2024. )

I have never tried a white strain before.
Does it work similarily concerning opiate wd?

Any experience with blends? Im interested in a tea made from 5g of all 3 strains.

Iirc They are abt to ban kratom in the eu, so i hope i can get some decent bulk deal.

I have a dehydrator, i wonder how much kratom is needed to make a gram of resin from evaporated filtered tea. Supersaturate, simmer, filter press, then evaporate the water i assume these are salts? I Would for example like to try it with different solvents, i wonder what the end product of the same kg dissolved in alcohol,acetone,water would look like when simmered, filtered and dried. analysed by a lab.

Would freebasing or salting make sense during extraction?

Bet a joint w some resin wouldnt be bad. Even foilies.

or is most 7oh synthed?

Tfw no finanically sound kratom based homebake recipes. Potential analogs.
 
because mark my words unodc is banning hhc, phenibut,kratom,d8,thc-p ,nitazines, even those indian soma tapentadol pills somewhere next year. If they ban benzos so many people are fucked.

Use your ai bot in a way that it”ll inform you about new events. I get emails everyt ime something’s added to the list.

Gbl suppliers are fucked too iirc, b2c only blue 20% tech will be available for consumers soon.

If i could be trusted with the stuff id get some.

I think the eu doesnt realise how many people are addicted to random compounds.

Im glad i got to try soo many substances. But it’s sad that it’s over.
 
Iv had tramadol and dihydrocodeine wd but kratom I found was the worst .you can get sample packs of blends but there expensive, I did try make a reduction once but it instantly gave me nausea and I had to go to bed ,it was a silly amount of grams simmered down to almost nothing lol
 
Loquacious said:
because mark my words unodc is banning hhc, phenibut,kratom,d8,thc-p ,nitazines, even those indian soma tapentadol pills somewhere next year. If they ban benzos so many people are fucked.

Use your ai bot in a way that it”ll inform you about new events. I get emails everyt ime something’s added to the list.

Gbl suppliers are fucked too iirc, b2c only blue 20% tech will be available for consumers soon.

If i could be trusted with the stuff id get some.

I think the eu doesnt realise how many people are addicted to random compounds.

Im glad i got to try soo many substances. But it’s sad that it’s over.
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I'll move to Thailand
 
try putting the kratom into a cup with boiling water and use a wisk that barely fits. It goes down better and it avoids that stuck plant matter feel that makes me nauseous.

Could be done w cold water but i dont like the taste, hot it’s fine. Burps of kratom on an empty stomach are disgusting.

Gonna try talking the local headshop dude for a bulk deal, if i buy a kg in the biggest size (50g) it would cost me around €250. Idk what bulk is at but 150 for 20bags prepackaged and sealed doesn’t sound to bad. But i could be very wrong.

I am lowkey planning to replace benzos with kratom for a couple of months to transition easier. Probably should plan every dose and take half a g less each week. The reason is that I was an alcoholic for 10 years, like 6-10 tallboys on average daily. Nowadays I got the drinking under control and try to avoid drinking consecutive days. A checkup told me my liver and other drinking related organs were at super healthy levels (docs dont trust me when i tell them i havent been drinking and i was on week 3 of healthy living when they took my blood)
I dont want to become an alci again and fuck up my organs.

Fucking the gaba part of my brain with booze, benzos, phenibut, lyrica and Ghb is more than enough. Hangovers feel like wd sometimes. I often combined low dose benzos with alc, and a few g binges on benzos alcohol boosters. Ended up g’ing out in a shop. All very shameful so time to end the 10yr gaba binge lmao. Sadly i feel like i might be a lifer.

Felt good to pass the shit-test at the hospital though. I arrived there by ambulance that same summer a month before the test with a record number bac after necking a liter of vodka on benzos and taking ket 4 hours into my blackout.


I shall try to keep it on topic in the future.
 
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