Benzos The Benzodiazepine MEGA THREAD - Direct Benzo Questions Here v2.0

[Loquacious]

5mg is about equivalent to 10mg diazepam, if you want to step off of it I'd half it again. If you can go 3 days without that's good, I'd keep that up instead of daily dosing. I did this with the valium, went to 2.5mg daily at first and then tried going without. Noticed that it took 5 days for me to begin feeling withdrawals on valium, stretched that for a few weeks and then dropped it all together. The bromonordiazepam will also take 3 days give or take, in case you find them again, it's perhaps a little better to step off from than norflurazepam, hits less receptors ime.

So if I stabilize at 2.5mgs daily i can basically jump? Then im probably fine with my current supply.
I forgot to mention that i have been keeping the norflurazepam to a minimum and using like 2mg volometrically dosed bromonordiazepam instead. Have been drinking recently to fall asleep easier but have to cut it out soon.

Tomorrow I’ll try my nfpam 2.5mg solution and hopefully that 30ml bottle will be the last of it.

I might even refill every ml I take out after 2 weeks stable on 2.5mgs to taper more gradually.

I just don’t want to drag this out even longer.

Am I already in the range that seizures are unlikely? I’m not prone to have them.

 

[Blowmonkey]

So if I stabilize at 2.5mgs daily i can basically jump?

I would go to 1.25mg even as that's the equivalent of 2.5mg diazepam, which is what I stepped off of myself, will stretch your supply and give you some leeway, the slower the better. I'm not prone to seizures either, but you've been on them for 5 years? The longest I've been on them was ~10 months and that wasn't really very high dose everyday, the longer and the higher the dosages you were taking the more risk of seizures you'll have, up to 6 months after the last dosage even. Most seizures happen in the first few weeks of quitting though, if you're over that it's not extremely likely, but I don't want to guarantee anything.

 

[Loquacious]

Man I came from Multiple milligrams of flualprazolam. Could take 15mg diclaz and still function. Got a bromazolam habit when my ridiculous flualp supply ran out, went to flubromazepam and tapered to norflurazepam, ended with bromonordiazepam. My previous taper is on TDS. nothing for a couple of months was good but then I relapsed and I always have an irrational fear of getting off.

Used to get interdose wd at 6h with flualp, traveling was such a drag. I once blacked out abroad and lost everything and literally had to stay drunk the entire 16hr journey home or my body would start jerking.

First time I knew I was out of. Wd was when I wouldn’t feel my eye balls shaking when I touched the area.

I’d rather be dopesick 10 times in a row.

Shitty thing is I reenrolled in college and hopefully finally getting my degree so I don’t really have time to taper but can’t be under the influence either the brain deceleration and depression it induces is really ruining my life.

 

[Blowmonkey]

Wd was when I wouldn’t feel my eye balls shaking when I touched the area.

Oh man, the muscle spasms all over are terrible, haven't had them in my eyes though, sounds even worse. I did have some weird visual hallucinations last year looking at my pc screen, also had that after taking a bunch of flunitrazepam for a couple of days, never knew it could do that, felt like I was going nuts. Yeah benzo wd's are absolutely horrible, but honestly the slower you go the less you will feel them. First time I did the slow taper and went from 2.5 mg valium a day to every 5 days it felt like my back was broken, that subsided and turned into general muscle soreness/stiffness the next 5 days. It gets a little less severe each time, but you'll still notice it, I had the runs for weeks after quitting.

 

[Loquacious]

The muscle issues are horrible, strangely enough dissos give me the ability to stretch and fix my back for a day or two. Especially ket, but even pcx analogs work.
But tbf my muscle issues also have to do with passing out on the couch 5/7 days in strange positions.

The past days ive been splitting my norflurazepam doses in 2. Taking a drop when i wake up and before i go to bed. I feel less vague and more productive. I always thought that because of the long half-life and long after-effects once a day would be plenty.
I have a lot of issues with brainfog normally.
Instead of halving the dose I’ll stick with 1.25mg in the am and 2.5mg before bed.
And honestly i don’t think my pipette gets a full ml.

Oh also the lethargy, i wish i just had that 35 count baggy of 2.5mg bromonordiazepam. It would be enough to get me off. The sedation/lethargy is driving me crazy. Nfpam starts to feel more like flubromazepam when taken for prolonged periods.

The plan is to get completely stable on 2.5mg before the end off the month. Then start skipping doses, im just not sure if i should start dropping morning or evening doses.

I think this is all feasible because im still taking my rx dexamp 3x10mg, drinking coffee, smoking weed and drinking beers. Without the stims and alcohol I should be able to taper quicker.

The thing that has made tapering easier are ANC headphones, the noise cancelling is great for the sensitivity to sounds and makes falling asleep less of a drag. Calm podcasts or calming music like headspace on Spotify.

Just rambling.

 

[JackARoe]

Benzos used for a purpose can be valuable. I actually dislike the drug. Never felt a need for it until a recent situation. So for two months I took 15 mgs of diazepam twice week, sometimes 3 times. I was still stressed and had anxiety. Once the situation was over I stopped and the next few weeks was more calm and did not need it anymore. Slept like a baby. The last time I took 15 mgs of diazepam I broke two of my glass pipes. Reminds me of what @sekio said, all benzos do for him is cause him to break glassware. Glad to not need it anymore, goes back into the closet until the next crisis. But taking it when needed helped me sleep. Stopping felt even better. And it probably takes a lot of ingesting to get a physical dependence. But thanks to BL I learned how to use wisely. Honestly I come from a time where things like nembutal or seconal were prescribed generously. (sorry folks phenobarb and foricet are useless, secobarbital and amobarbital WERE the downers of past years) Then in like 1982 all doctors switched to valium. Then people had to take a handful with booze to try and get a buzz

Benzos were said to be safer than barbiturates and less addicting So for 30 years I never cared or saw them. By 2013 when etizolam came around I could have innocently taken one every night for sleep thinking it would be safe. Then I read here at BL and totally took caution. 100 etizolam lasted my wife and I a year. But yeah I could have stupidly kept my old thinking that benzos were not as addicting as barbiturates and took one every night. Good info at BL. A lot of info does not go wasted.