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IS it me or is dispensary cannabis not the same as home grown cannabis?

notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Yup Hydro, Organic, Veganic, etc.... we are talking about grow process not final product. (Which you did mention organic does not mean good).

The major complaint seems to be the THC % #'s are off -- which I do not think is a premise anybody is arguing. Question -- What happens if I document myself opening a package that says something wild lie 34% THC, drop it in an envelope and have it sent to be tested and it comes back past the 10% deviation limit allowed ---- Any course of action at all or would it just be for funsies --- The answer to that speaks loudly IMO. (anyone ever catch em deviate by more than 10% already?)

I member when BC bud was worth so damn much you could trade it g for g for blow in certain metro areas that will remain nameless. Windsor bridge right I mean nvm. Still say right now is the hayday for marijuana due to legalization. 23% matanuska 'alaskan thunderfuck' was the last blackmarket thc% high that I remember -- now even if they off by 10% I'm getting 24% THC and I'm certainly not paying blow prices for it.

Nothing pissed me off more than when ppl decided "Dank" should be more am I allowed to "Past price name" it was 30, 35 if it was something special....Than 50 and that was it.... man screw you just cuz ya have access to something good does not mean you should bend me over! ( Was coming from a point of righteousness btw 550 for qps of white rhino the same ppl find something good 400 a zip -- homie fuck you). All the "Dank" people are not doing so great now that all weed is good and I do hold a small grudge.
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The best connection I had in the 90's was a fairly steady supply of Red Mexican. It was pressed rock hard to where it was hard to break up. There was enough resin in it for that to be possible. After that I segued to a steady supply of smelly Kentucky Indica. I had to smoke nearly twice as much of the Mex, but it was a great high. It certainly wasn't swag or regs. The Kentucky Indica was that syrupy, laid back buzz on 3 hits. I certainly liked it as well, but given the choice I'd take the Mex. (Which was cheaper, too) Again, it was not shwag or regs, there was always plenty of that around as well.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
^ You can (here at least). They have 1:1 CBD to THC edibles -- you can get shake or popcorn buds with like 10-12% THC.

If I recall most brick weed was well under 7% and rumored to be hit with a # of strange things including human urine. (To keep predators away from the grows).

Is it possible people are missing the effects of pesticides and other stuff that should not normally be there in general? ... That should get some fiery responses.
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I mean, certain bug sprays contain a chemical that, in addition to being a poison, cause some stimulant effects*. Maybe certain pesticides also have that kind of effect, and people are basically microdosing it so they don't immediately get sick but it contributes to a "cracky" feeling. This is 100% speculation though.

*I'm aware that the media has vastly overstated how common it is to smoke bug spray, but it absolutely does cause those effects. Obviously its a terrible idea to try though.
 
Okay my trajectory was not the normal one... When I started it was white rhino top shelf weed that happened to be grown in the basement. I had no idea, paper bags full. Pulling about 2-4 lbs a month for two (three hehe) smokers.

I did not know what a dime bag was -- the first time a friend said he only had a bowl left I thought he meant like an ice cream bowl full of put. "Sounds like plenty for now??" --- Than that got busted and I was knocked all the way down to lowly HS'er seeking weed. So Alot of years of brick mixed in with some Reggie's -- Finally after about 12 yrs of "Playing my position well" I got access to the "Dank" that was goin 50 an 8th for 6 a qp. (That was my personal).

Than that guy got busted (Crazy his house was raided two days before mine; the second time) So I had a pretty good idear it was coming...... By that time we were getting near legalization/ weird "Need caregiver co-op" nonsense so there was plenty of good bud around but EVERYONE wanted you ON PAPER as they patient and than you lost all your rights so I wasn't with that...

Set up one more grow with pops as it was now legal but so much was going on at the time in everyone's life that it never became the smooth functioning operation it once was. (And damn ppl expect Alot, "You must have lbs laying around again" -- DEF NOT -- "your full of shit I remember" ---- A different grow is what you remember shut the hell up!

Than legalization so I feel like I have smoked just about all the grades of pot. (I remember routinely having friends (Or W/E) from Cali, "You couldn't finish a joint of the stuff we have" -- I was always sure that was nonsense...and it was. Have never ran into a strain of weed I CAN'T finish a joint of. Some is good enough I like to leave a large roach but not the same thing at all lol
 
Indian Reservation potshops, cheap as you'll ever get. 50 USD's per oz. Being as they are tax free, I guess they're still making tons of profits at those prices. My buddies buy it and say it's good, <eye roll> Again all that commercial weed is doused in chemicals, pesticide, fungacides, etc but the average Joe doesn' give a shit. Safety Regulation on the Rez' ? There's prolly none at all.

Legalization killled the black market. growers here in CO were getting 350-400 an oz. Now people can get tainted commerical stuff for 100 bucks. Plus not as many people smoking flowers anymore either.
 
Sounds like legalization ruined the insane price the "blackmarket" was charging --- which almost inevitably is most peoples real complaint with legalization.

May I ask why you feel CO bud is covered in pesticides and chemicals and if there is any evidence of such being a common occurrence? First time I smoked legal weed was in wellington CO if I recall -- paid Alot cuz its right on the border --- ended up tipping the hotel staff an 1oz 1/4. 2 ppl got 2 each --- didn't wanna drive back with more than one as that would be risk of 30 days in jail. Assuming you weren't so dumb to say you bought it in a different state or leave the store labels on.

I remember it being DAMN GOOD myself. I think 275 a zip @ that time though.

Thank God for legalization killing the blackmarket. So sick of "This weed costs extra 'dank' dankk' -- just wait in a parking lot for an hour"

Now I am going to seem combative but factually I get my pot from a res to duck the taxes too -- they carry all the same brands as the other dispensaries though -- just no taxes. I admit I smoke Alot of concentrate too, shit hash use to be like 30-50 a gram for bubble. now its 25 but you can grab live resin for under 10 a g if you stock up. Yea THC to $ is in general what ppl are looking for.
(Of course if the weed truly is tainted and covered in chemicals it would not be worth smoking but sounds like a crazy business practice)

Any folks from CO that can speak more to this? This place is like Capone's warehouse after prohibition -- "This is bullshit, people are happy and don't need us!" (that is NOT DIRECTED AT YOU but the overall sentiment I am feeling from the other side the argument)
 
In MI it is pretty clear which brands use remediation and such techniques --- remediated still means pesticide free though? I don't get it unless CO has no standards or somethin
 
all the dispensary shit is cookies this and cookies that, or some cookies offshoot inbred on itself (gelato), or some other og kush offshoot (which cookies is an offshoot of)... no thanks, it's hard to find real meds for me at the dispo.
 
"Is dispensary cannabis not the same as home grown cannabis?"

Assuming that I get the same plant (genetics), and have one grown by a commercial grower, and I grow one myself at home, they're going to be somewhat different. Deciding factors will be: What sort and how much light I use, growing method, processing method. If I had to pick the most important factor determining any differences between the same genetics, it would have to be the light. More light equals more energy equals more growth equals better bud development equals better effects, up to a point. I don't think there's anything different about the stuff coming out of commercial grow operations compared to what I can grow at home that can't be accounted for by the differences in growing methods and light received. My homegrown Northern Lights is markedly different from the greenhouse grown Northern Lights I can buy from the stores here, because my stuff grew outdoors for the season under the sun, instead of also being supplemented by LED / HPS lights when the days get shorter. Different, not better, not worse. It's clearly the same type of cannabis, it just grew differently, and as a result, expressed certain traits more or less.

No, I don't think there's anything different or special about dispensary cannabis. If you replicate their growing and processing methods down to the T, you will end up with the same "dispensary cannabis" right at home. Of course that's vastly impractical in most cases. Any perceived differences probably just come from the way it's being grown and processed. I briefly worked in the Canadian cannabis industry, and the volume of cannabis these greenhouse operations are moving is making my head spin (literally, as you will be perma-stoned on the job, as a result of handling sticky-ass plants all day).
 
rave23 said:
"Is dispensary cannabis not the same as home grown cannabis?"

Assuming that I get the same plant (genetics), and have one grown by a commercial grower, and I grow one myself at home, they're going to be somewhat different. Deciding factors will be: What sort and how much light I use, growing method, processing method. If I had to pick the most important factor determining any differences between the same genetics, it would have to be the light. More light equals more energy equals more growth equals better bud development equals better effects, up to a point. I don't think there's anything different about the stuff coming out of commercial grow operations compared to what I can grow at home that can't be accounted for by the differences in growing methods and light received. My homegrown Northern Lights is markedly different from the greenhouse grown Northern Lights I can buy from the stores here, because my stuff grew outdoors for the season under the sun, instead of also being supplemented by LED / HPS lights when the days get shorter. Different, not better, not worse. It's clearly the same type of cannabis, it just grew differently, and as a result, expressed certain traits more or less.

No, I don't think there's anything different or special about dispensary cannabis. If you replicate their growing and processing methods down to the T, you will end up with the same "dispensary cannabis" right at home. Of course that's vastly impractical in most cases. Any perceived differences probably just come from the way it's being grown and processed. I briefly worked in the Canadian cannabis industry, and the volume of cannabis these greenhouse operations are moving is making my head spin (literally, as you will be perma-stoned on the job, as a result of handling sticky-ass plants all day).
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your northern lights (vs theirs) might also have a completely different chemical spectrum as well, i'm sure you'd have to have the same specimen (clone) to really compare.

i used to get onycd (from the dispo) and i'd look at the dates because i knew by the harvest date which pheno i'd be getting.

one seemed to lean more toward the chem91 and had the chemmy (for lack of a better term) smell and was better for certain medical fx (daytime- relaxing, pain relief, etc.)

and the other one was VERY much a chemD pheno and had the halitosis and kushy- caryophyllene smell and was very good for a specific awesome euphoric colorful psychedelic mesmerized high/ stone that developed into an amazing stupor and a 9+ hour night's sleep.
 
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I mean well made Moonshine or Home brewed Beer feels a lot "happier" and "cleaner" than mass produced spirits and beer.

I feel like it's just not possible to scale things with the attention to care and detail that cottage industry level products have.

Also not to sound like a hippie but "the love man" lol
 
Oh damn ^ IME disagree --- moonshine has always been some foul (You best have a chaser and a compliment ready) type of drink.

But I haven't drank shine since college and I doubt I was getting 'top shelf shine' (Assuming that is indeed a thing)

BTW after about 15 g of live resin my 'lookah seahorse' tip jammed as I was not cleaning it often enough. Had to buy 4 more tips for 10 less than the thing costed and 20 less than I could a grabbed another 10g of live resin for. STILL WORTH IT!

When it broke I got real frustrated as my permahigh was fading fast and joints were no longer cutting it. IF YOU SUCK WITH A TORCH, Get something like that. I hear other ppl say the torch is more efficient so idk? I'd try both though FR
 
I’m sure this has already been said, but the only things different with dispensary weed vs. black market are the lack of pesticides, knowing the identity of the strain / THC content, and everything is too strong. I’ve noticed that, around here, dispensaries are starting to sell more lower potency weed. I currently get the 20% stuff, and it’s much more pleasant. I get anxious when I take too big of a hit of strong weed or hash. Less THC per hit helps avoid that.
 
General alcazar said:
I’m sure this has already been said, but the only things different with dispensary weed vs. black market are the lack of pesticides, knowing the identity of the strain / THC content, and everything is too strong. I’ve noticed that, around here, dispensaries are starting to sell more lower potency weed. I currently get the 20% stuff, and it’s much more pleasant. I get anxious when I take too big of a hit of strong weed or hash. Less THC per hit helps avoid that.
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I buy contraband weed here in Canada. It tends to be less dry and shit then the stuff at the weed store. Also i get a better selection from the contraband stuff then i do at the store here
 
General alcazar said:
I’m sure this has already been said, but the only things different with dispensary weed vs. black market are the lack of pesticides, knowing the identity of the strain / THC content, and everything is too strong. I’ve noticed that, around here, dispensaries are starting to sell more lower potency weed. I currently get the 20% stuff, and it’s much more pleasant. I get anxious when I take too big of a hit of strong weed or hash. Less THC per hit helps avoid that.
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20% is lower potency? I mean that's not the uber weed, but I think lot's of folks would call that "too strong". That, and even a little lower is what I shoot for since it's more economical. Also, since old habits die hard, I like to take 5 or so hits.
 
20% within 10% margin of error (MI) at least -- most US states I think.

So I get 30% with a 10% margin of error --- but live resin is getting to be the way better deal.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
20% within 10% margin of error (MI) at least -- most US states I think.

So I get 30% with a 10% margin of error --- but live resin is getting to be the way better deal.
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live resin can be pretty good but I've had the best full spectrum experiences with live rosin

they make it by making bubble sift from fresh frozen buds then press the sift to make rosin
 
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