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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2026 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

Esperighanto said:
How would you characterize the difference between an N-OH version of a 2C-T-X compared to the normal one? Say, 2C-T-7 vs. HOT-7, Shulgin thought they were pretty indistinguishable, but have you noticed any differences?
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I just wanted to mention, as a pro-drug function is theorised by Shulgin for HOT-7, there is also a report of N-HO-2C-E in the Shulgin Pharmacology Notebook, with somewhat different effects.
 
I tripped two nights ago and generally trip at least once per week on my first night off from work. It has become such old hat that I don’t really feel the need to express much about it. Always using Psilacetin because that’s what I have a great amount of sitting in my stash. Eaten literally grams of the stuff over the past few years.

Some memorable moments from recent trips were realizations about how much I wish I was born two or three decades earlier, the realization that I want to have children but now cannot because my wife is incapable (which led to some angry feelings released through some pretty intense sobbing), intense bonding with my oldest cat who is now about midlife (9 years old) and starting to show his age which also triggered intense outbursts of tears, and other such feelings of loss and future loss that I am struggling to deal with.


I am desperately trying to save money to build a home on some acreage outside of my town (in town is just a giant ghetto in all respects) and while I have been putting back a lot of cash monthly, I still have to fix shit on this money pit of a home that I’m in, and still have to get basic infrastructure built for the future home (drill a well, build a gravel road to where we want to build, clear and level a spot, pour a slab, install septic system, run electrical lines, etc.) if I want to move there anytime soon.

So you know, I’m stressed. I have a stressful job and live in the worst part of town and all the things that I have failed at in life which led me to this particular place I’m in makes me sad and angry a lot. And I’m worried about my wife because it’s getting so stressful here that now I’m not the only one with a benzo script, she is now getting some take as needed lorazepam from her doc and I’m already on 2.5mg/day of alprazolam which is as much as I’m willing to ask for.

Life sucks and then you die. But at least my cat loves me. He has so much personality. When he does pass on someday, it might very well be the worst day of my life.
 
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I've started swimming regularly and I'm really loving it. I had it as a hobby as a kid for a little while and it really helps because I know the basics. I'm in a bad shape though but getting better every week. I have a great new built indoor swimming pool in less than 10 min walk from my home. After the swim, I go to the cold water pool and sauna. I go in the mornings and it makes me feel really good for the rest of the day.
 
Esperighanto said:
The euphoria caps out pretty quick, MXPCP was specifically excellent for thinking about the butterfly effect and society in a way that typically only psychedelics can do for me. The physical clumsiness induced from MXPCP though definitely leads to me preferring 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCE or 3-HO-PCP over it, just so I can walk in a straight line. Despite the neat body feel of MXPCP, it's definitely my least favorite out of the four PCP analogs I've tried so far, I think I'd even pursue 2-FXE/CanKet, 2F-DCK, or ketamine over it. The only arylcyclohexylamine I'd place beneath this one on my list (sorted by preference) is DCK, which felt like every downside of an arylcyclohexylamine with nothing else to offer.
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Yeah MXPCP wasn't what I was expecting. Was expecting to really enjoy it. I liked it, but it was nothing profound, I only went through 1 gram. It usually takes me at least a few grams to get a feel for the flavor and character of any given arylcyclohexylamine. There are only a few that I knew was a special chemical with only a couple of tries (3-cl-pcp, DMXE, MXPR, 3-MeO-PCP). There are a few that I didn't really know where something special until going through multiple grams. I agree with you about DCK. Probably my least favorite dissociative that I've tried. I've always found it dysphoric and strange. I've one gone threw a few grams and I dont think I've really ever had a good time with it. It's a damn shame that I just lost my job. Looks like my vendor just got FXipr and MXPR in stock. I've never tried FXipr but I really enjoyed MXPR.

Esperighanto said:
How would you characterize the difference between an N-OH version of a 2C-T-X compared to the normal one? Say, 2C-T-7 vs. HOT-7, Shulgin thought they were pretty indistinguishable, but have you noticed any differences?
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Unfortunately I can not speak on that. I've never tried 2C-T-7 unfortunately. My HOT-7 experiences line up with what I imagine 2CT7 would feel like based off of reports that I've read. I'd love to see HOT-2 pop up because 2CT2 is hands down the most special psychedelic that I'vew ever experienced. I would pay outrageous prices just to try it again. I'm surprised that HOT-2, HOT-4, HOT-7 and HOT-21 haven't popped up. I'm sure that they'd all be winners
 
This morning I decided to have 90mg of memantine for breakfast alongside some THC-P and leftover chinese food, and man oh man is this a wonderfully unique drug. If this lacks the toxicity inherent to arylcyclohexylamines, I may have found a new tool to use into the ground.
 
Pfafffed said:
Got a bachelor party in two weeks. Perhaps then?
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Doesn't sound like my idea of a good bachelor party, but whatever floats your boat man.

Congratulations on cementing your bond with a forever roommate! :) It's quite awesome, the good outweighs the bad if you truly love someone.
 
Esperighanto said:
This morning I decided to have 90mg of memantine for breakfast alongside some THC-P and leftover chinese food, and man oh man is this a wonderfully unique drug. If this lacks the toxicity inherent to arylcyclohexylamines, I may have found a new tool to use into the ground.
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Glad you like it! I'm in the class of people that doesn't get along with it at all, unluckily for me. It just makes me cloudy and blunted. The friends I have that like it make it sound lovely.
Cream Gravy? said:
Doesn't sound like my idea of a good bachelor party, but whatever floats your boat man.

Congratulations on cementing your bond with a forever roommate! :) It's quite awesome, the good outweighs the bad if you truly love someone.
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Thank you! And this isn't my bachelor party, I'm just the best man. I did get married a month ago, though, so I'll still take your congratulations. :geek:
 
Damn, the flu finally got me.
For days everyone around me was sick & I was able to withstand the viral load.

The rave on saturday with a pretty big amount of speed propably did it.

My back hurts a lot, all I can do is lay around.
I'd kill to be put on a DAM or Hydromorphine drip right now.
Well, all I have is kratom, so I'm chugging down ungodly amounts.

I'd also love to trip. It has been way too long.
 
Man there is such a huge pile of unexplored exotic lysergamides and tryptamines being offered commercially by one of the long time known research chemists on the clearnet. I feel like as a community we are sleeping on these. Can't say I've been doing my part

DMIA ("DMT-amide"), 4-AcO-TMT, 5-MeO-iPT, 5-MeO-sBT, 5-MeO-HiPT, 5-MeO-MALT, EBT, iPT
TNBOMe, Escaline-NBOMe,
L1A, L2A, LAE-32, LAMPA, LSM-775

to name a few tantalizing ones
It's pretty amazing how many chemicals they have on offer, must be a really skilled chemist
 
I know, right? Well, I can only speculate as to what you're referring to, but I've seen some of these in the wild and feel like I'm slacking off not exploring them. I'd really like to try some of the novel 5-MeO-subs! But I've still got a pile of materials that I've never tried, so I'm reluctant. It doesn't help that there are so many on offer, and that there's so little to go off of.

FWIW, people describe 5-MeO-MALT as being like a slightly more approachable 5-MeO-DMT. It is the only drug that I've taken an "allergy test" of and decided immediately that it wasn't for me. It made me all physically tense and crampy, which is apparently a thing for some people. I never went any further.
 
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CavernsoftheMind said:
Damn, the flu finally got me.
For days everyone around me was sick & I was able to withstand the viral load.

The rave on saturday with a pretty big amount of speed propably did it.

My back hurts a lot, all I can do is lay around.
I'd kill to be put on a DAM or Hydromorphine drip right now.
Well, all I have is kratom, so I'm chugging down ungodly amounts.

I'd also love to trip. It has been way too long.
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Alright fuck it, I'm trying out snorting low to mid doses ketamine.

So far (took maybe 10-15mg) it helps with the pain & I'm feeling less dysphoric.

Listening to some Love, Herman Dune & Gilbert O'Sullivan now
 
perpetualdawn said:
Man there is such a huge pile of unexplored exotic lysergamides and tryptamines being offered commercially by one of the long time known research chemists on the clearnet. I feel like as a community we are sleeping on these. Can't say I've been doing my part

DMIA ("DMT-amide"), 4-AcO-TMT, 5-MeO-iPT, 5-MeO-sBT, 5-MeO-HiPT, 5-MeO-MALT, EBT, iPT
TNBOMe, Escaline-NBOMe,
L1A, L2A, LAE-32, LAMPA, LSM-775

to name a few tantalizing ones
It's pretty amazing how many chemicals they have on offer, must be a really skilled chemist
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Their collection is an incredible source of research and self-experimentation potential!
 
CavernsoftheMind said:
Alright fuck it, I'm trying out snorting low to mid doses ketamine.

So far (took maybe 10-15mg) it helps with the pain & I'm feeling less dysphoric.

Listening to some Love, Herman Dune & Gilbert O'Sullivan now
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It went quite well! I feel better than yesterday. And it was pretty enjoyable.
 
I'm feeling much better honestly.
I wonder whether this is due to ket's antidepressant after effects or whether I'm truly healthier.

This feels like a cheat code.
 
CavernsoftheMind said:
I'm feeling much better honestly.
I wonder whether this is due to ket's antidepressant after effects or whether I'm truly healthier.

This feels like a cheat code.
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Careful there, could be excuses to use! Of course I don't know you, but I had friends with addiction problems to dissociatives and these are exactly the type of mental gymnastics used to justify questionable usage patterns. At least ketamine does not seem particularly immunosuppressive (unlike stimulants).
 
Solid advice, xdrc. I couldn't agree more. But if Caverns is just using ket to feel less shitty while down with the flu, then I'm all for it. Dissos and opioids don't really figure into my daily life, but if I'm down with COVID or flu, then I'm liable to dabble a bit just to not feel so miserable.
 
xdrc said:
Careful there, could be excuses to use! Of course I don't know you, but I had friends with addiction problems to dissociatives and these are exactly the type of mental gymnastics used to justify questionable usage patterns. At least ketamine does not seem particularly immunosuppressive (unlike stimulants).
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Thanks for the warning!
Pfafffed said:
Solid advice, xdrc. I couldn't agree more. But if Caverns is just using ket to feel less shitty while down with the flu, then I'm all for it. Dissos and opioids don't really figure into my daily life, but if I'm down with COVID or flu, then I'm liable to dabble a bit just to not feel so miserable.
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I do like dissos quite a bit. I feel like I'm not at risk to get addicted to them though.
They are kind of too psychedelic & altering to wanna take them daily or even weekly.

Some of my friends like the 'getting stupid / blunt' part of them, which I don't like.
I'm always looking for the more clear headed experiences.

Opioids on the other hand are very addictive for me. I still feel like myself, however high I am on an opioid.
 
xammy said:
I've started swimming regularly and I'm really loving it. I had it as a hobby as a kid for a little while and it really helps because I know the basics. I'm in a bad shape though but getting better every week. I have a great new built indoor swimming pool in less than 10 min walk from my home. After the swim, I go to the cold water pool and sauna. I go in the mornings and it makes me feel really good for the rest of the day.
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Been going to the beach for swims pretty regularly and walks and jogs along the shore as well. I used to live just few blocks from the beach; I live a bit further now but still not too long of a walk. It feels really refreshing getting active again. I used to be really into skateboarding when I was younger but can't do it anymore with all my spine and joint issues.

It's been almost 2 years since I quit cannabis and far longer since I tripped and am doing better. I've been sleeping really good lately and no longer getting those recurring vivid sleep paralysis nightmares about getting suffocated and strangled by shadow demons like I did back when I was tripping regularly and struggling with horrible insomnia. Although the other night I did get this weird sleep paralysis dream where a stray cat jump though my window and started biting my arm.
 
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