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pnillyg

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Hi everybody. I’m in a bit of a situation which includes switching doctors right now but I have been misled so many times I always like to double check with the BL fam.

I’m now on:
5 mg of oxy 2 x daily (sometimes an extra 2.5 if needed)
10mg lexapro in the morning.
5mg diazepam (sometimes split sometimes all at once)
300-600mg of gabapentin 3 x daily (1200-1800mg total)
2mg Eszopiclone at 10pm (along with10mg of melatonin 4mg Prazosin)
And 300-1200mg ketamine daily

Edit: Oh also 1200mg of NAC 2 x Daily

Im feeling very numb and dumb. I’m also scared that I’m screwed however you want to perceive that. Doc just called me in:

5mcg/hr Buprenorphine patches to make the opiate taper better. I’m feeling like I might not be in good hands. Any advice. Any encouragement. Any response would help as I’m feeling lost and alone

I also want to apologize for making many threads over the last few years about me which is very selfish and not contributing much toward others. I have done my best. And thank you to everybody for your help.

Any and all responses are welcome and I just appreciate you all so much for giving me any sort of communication. Thank you

Peace and love

PS: when I’m finally living the way I want to which would include stability I promise to contribute all of my energy and information to anybody and all who need help as I am blessed to have some solid resources. Looking forward to hearing from the team.
 
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Buprenorphine without naloxone doesn’t cause pwd. It will be very helpful. Occupy the receptors a bit and make you more comfortable.

Glad to see you’re still around. Legend.
 
Still here homie thank you glad to hear from you too!
helpingout said:
Buprenorphine without naloxone doesn’t cause pwd. It will be very helpful. Occupy the receptors a bit and make you more comfortable.

Glad to see you’re still around. Legend.
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Ok so if I slap the patch on how long should I wait since the last oxy dose? I’ve heard 8 hrs I’ve heard 12 and I’ve hard 48 so I’m just confused. I guess when you get a lot of advice you get a lot of different answers
 
pnillyg said:
Still here homie thank you glad to hear from you too!


Ok so if I slap the patch on how long should I wait since the last oxy dose? I’ve heard 8 hrs I’ve heard 12 and I’ve hard 48 so I’m just confused. I guess when you get a lot of advice you get a lot of different answers
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It’s like if you had subutex. They stack.

Well now you’ve got me questioning my own knowledge. I remember taking subutex with no problems whatsoever but going into pwd when using suboxone. I thought the difference was naloxone causing the receptor to vacate.

I’m out of my depth. I withdraw my response.
 
On a separate note the Bernese method uses micro doses of buprenorphine like 5mcg though once per day, not per hour through a patch, alongside full agonists. Maybe the difference in why you’re prescribed it is how much of the full agonist being displaced by a dose like that is negligible. Maybe there’s even available space on the receptor and no displacement would occur. The Bernese method employs doses like this without causing pwd.
 
pnillyg said:
Hi everybody. I’m in a bit of a situation which includes switching doctors right now but I have been misled so many times I always like to double check with the BL fam.

I’m now on:
5 mg of oxy 2 x daily (sometimes an extra 2.5 if needed)
10mg lexapro in the morning.
5mg diazepam (sometimes split sometimes all at once)
300-600mg of gabapentin 3 x daily (1200-1800mg total)
2mg Eszopiclone at 10pm (along with10mg of melatonin 4mg Prazosin)
And 300-1200mg ketamine daily

Edit: Oh also 1200mg of NAC 2 x Daily

Im feeling very numb and dumb. I’m also scared that I’m screwed however you want to perceive that. Doc just called me in:

5mcg/hr Buprenorphine patches to make the opiate taper better. I’m feeling like I might not be in good hands. Any advice. Any encouragement. Any response would help as I’m feeling lost and alone

I also want to apologize for making many threads over the last few years about me which is very selfish and not contributing much toward others. I have done my best. And thank you to everybody for your help.

Any and all responses are welcome and I just appreciate you all so much for giving me any sort of communication. Thank you

Peace and love

PS: when I’m finally living the way I want to which would include stability I promise to contribute all of my energy and information to anybody and all who need help as I am blessed to have some solid resources. Looking forward to hearing from the team.
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Suboxone has 8mg of buprenorphine that’s 8000mcg. That’s a lot a lot slot higher than 5mcg. Far more displacement with a dose like that.
 
helpingout said:
It’s like if you had subutex. They stack.

Well now you’ve got me questioning my own knowledge. I remember taking subutex with no problems whatsoever but going into pwd when using suboxone. I thought the difference was naloxone causing the receptor to vacate.

I’m out of my depth. I withdraw my response.
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I believe that with or without naloxone it still binds so tightly (speaking from research and personal experience) it will still cause precip.
helpingout said:
On a separate note the Bernese method uses micro doses of buprenorphine like 5mcg though once per day, not per hour through a patch, alongside full agonists. Maybe the difference in why you’re prescribed it is how much of the full agonist being displaced by a dose like that is negligible. Maybe there’s even available space on the receptor and no displacement would occur. The Bernese method employs doses like this without causing pwd.
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I’m wondering if maybe the 5mcg per hour will kind of be like a Bernese method but I’ll still stop my oxy when I put the patch on 12+ hours after the last dose
helpingout said:
Suboxone has 8mg of buprenorphine that’s 8000mcg. That’s a lot a lot slot higher than 5mcg. Far more displacement with a dose like that.
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Not Trying to be critical but they make 0.2mg Buprenorphine tablets up to 8mg I’ve had all of them before. But yes 2mg of subutex threw me into precip 4 hours after a 15mg oxy dose in the past
 
helpingout said:
But that’s a lot of ketamine.

Your bladder is crying.
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Luckily so far the bladder doesn’t seem to be changing maybe a bit of a change in frequency of urination. But the ketamine cramps I’ve had 2 times now and holy sh*t that’s the worst pain I’ve ever had
 
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pnillyg said:
I believe that with or without naloxone it still binds so tightly (speaking from research and personal experience) it will still cause precip.

I’m wondering if maybe the 5mcg per hour will kind of be like a Bernese method but I’ll still stop my oxy when I put the patch on 12+ hours after the last dose

Not Trying to be critical but they make 0.2mg Buprenorphine tablets up to 8mg I’ve had all of them before. But yes 2mg of subutex threw me into precip 4 hours after a 15mg oxy dose in the past
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I think 12 hours and five micrograms is gonna be helpful. I’d feel comfortable with taking a dose like that. I really don’t think it will cause pwd. Good luck.

I think it will either be synergistic or will alleviate withdrawal or smooth the comedown. I think you’ll be alright.
 
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