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[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Hi nice to meet you I've never heard of that stuff although I've had extracts .boy I know kratom withdrawl with normal powder and it's hell. I've never taken strong opiates but coming off maeng da nearly made me give up litterley. I used to get withdrawals after 10 hours so dosed first thing morning toss and wash and tea at night .I used to just boil the tea for 5 or 6 minutes then strain and put the remaining gloop in the freezer for emergencies incase I ran out .glad your on the mend

Nice to meet you too and thank you for sharing this
I meant to write this yesterday but got distracted in the other thread when you were telling me about Thailand lol

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

You are always able to me make laugh, no matter how deep the topic

it's okay

 

[lost weekend]

Nice to meet you too and thank you for sharing this
I meant to write this yesterday but got distracted in the other thread when you were telling me about Thailand lol

No worries

 

[emkee_reinvented]

it's okay

 

[516CAZ]

"if one can keep it in small amounts"...
That wasn't my experience
That's what I did. Seemed to be a money saving legal blessing until roughly 8-10 months in.
At just about the 1 year since my intro to it, I found myself in BIG trouble with the necessity to dose about every 3 hours. It's crushed the effective dose of my Rx meds too.

Ah, I see. I appreciate your insight. I def don't need another drug to have to chase after so... lots to think about!

 

[516CAZ]

Aw thank you so much
It’s hard to say, because damn I really know how hard it is these days to get proper pain meds and chronic pain can be tough. But yea, 7oh & pseudo can def be pretty addictive (in my experience more so than other pain meds (opi’s) I’ve taken). It’s like I never want to tell someone the wrong thing or what to do but yea … for sure be careful. Im kind of in a weird spot because I’ve had a pretty bad pain flare and out of my meds as of today & can’t get anything else. So … I ordered some kratom that has a little 7oh in it & not high amounts like I was taking before. I ordered it because I’m genuinely in pain but I hope I’m not playing with fire so to speak. I’ve gone back and forth with it, had some short relapses but definitely not even close to where I was like as in what I wrote in this post. lol sorry I’m rambling a bit because I don’t want to steer ya wrong and still trying to navigate all this stuff myself. But yea what @Biomed Tech Guy wrote I can soo relate to.

Moving forward I’m going to try to just stick to regular Kratom when I need for the most part if/when I don’t have my pain meds. And also see how it goes with these capsules I have right now with just a tiny splash of 7 in them.

I hope any of that made any sense at all. Hope anything I wrote was helpful at all. I do personally think that 7 can affect tolerance to pain meds, especially high or frequent doses.

Either way sending you support and solidarity
Hugs

Thank you so much for elaborating (not rambling )! Wow, addictive even more so than other pain meds? That's def not something I want... nor do I desire any additional tolerance to my Rx's!

Did you ever try pseudoindoxyl by itself?

I'm sorry to hear you are having a pain flare now. Sending you soothing vibes ~~~}}} I do hope you find a regimen that works for you rather than against you. The shit that chronic pain sufferers go through...

 

[kiely]

Hi 'Angels

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Hi 'Angels

Hola Bonita

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Thank you so much for elaborating (not rambling )! Wow, addictive even more so than other pain meds? That's def not something I want... nor do I desire any additional tolerance to my Rx's!

Did you ever try pseudoindoxyl by itself?

I'm sorry to hear you are having a pain flare now. Sending you soothing vibes ~~~}}} I do hope you find a regimen that works for you rather than against you. The shit that chronic pain sufferers go through...

Aw thank you too for your kindness. Yea it’s def tough what pain sufferers go through, especially in this day and age.

So yea I’ve tried pseudo by itself, it’s weird as I’ve gotten different results from different vendors honestly. It’s felt by itself for me more like a muscle relaxer. Then there’s a couple vendors that I barely felt it (by itself) or one I didn’t really like it. But from the vendor that I was getting (probably actual pseudo from) it felt more like a muscle relaxer than pain killer for sure. It did help with pain a little bit, but tolerance for that one builds crazy fast. Yea that one really screws with tolerance in my opinion.

We need more options in pharmacies if ya know what I’m saying. I wish weed worked better for me like it used to years ago. Of course back when it was illegal, that’s why laws seem silly. Now that it’s all legal, I all of a sudden started getting panic attacks from smoking. Maybe I should try cbd again or something.
Wish I could just grow a field of poppies lol.

Anyways, I really hope you can find a pain regimen that works for you too.
Big hug

 

[Biomed Tech Guy]

Did you ever try pseudoindoxyl by itself?

So yea I’ve tried pseudo by itself, it’s weird as I’ve gotten different results from different vendors honestly.

My very first kratom alkaloid experience was with Hydroxie pseudoindoxyl (RED tabs) when I was desperately in need, having run out of my Rx meds while in Hawaii despite trying to stretch them out.
3 days to go with lots to do, especially the LONG flights back..
That would have been horrible.
I had zero pain and an improved attitude flipping 100% from my Rx meds directly to the Hydroxie red tabs.
Since then I haven't had much luck with straight alleged pseudo, and it's supposed to be better for pain management than 7OH, and I've got it from sources I trust.
Having said that, I've also been told by a forum member who should know that that particular brand is the only real pseudo in the retail market, but they also said it had residual solvents and was "dirty".
I haven't noticed that to be the case but all I can go by is consumption experience.
About 7 months ago I had gotten 2 kinds and colors of unusually small tabs with "lab beaker" looking imprints from a USA based vendor that were on sale and extremely cheap, and unlike other vendors they took credit cards and had great tech/customer support via phone (shocking-I know!) and email, and I was SO hopeful. Both types of tabs were weak, tasted pretty plain and chalky/bitter which I wouldn't have minded, except they HAD TO have some nasty chemicals in them because they literally made my liver hurt.
Last note on pseudo, before my tolerance went sky high I always thought a commonly available 20mg tablet that claims to be 10mg of each 7OH and pseudo per tablet was more effective than 20-25mg straight 7OH tabs.

 

[lost weekend]

My very first kratom alkaloid experience was with Hydroxie pseudoindoxyl (RED tabs) when I was desperately in need, having run out of my Rx meds while in Hawaii despite trying to stretch them out.
3 days to go with lots to do, especially the LONG flights back..
That would have been horrible.
I had zero pain and an improved attitude flipping 100% from my Rx meds directly to the Hydroxie red tabs.
Since then I haven't had much luck with straight alleged pseudo, and it's supposed to be better for pain management than 7OH, and I've got it from sources I trust.
Having said that, I've also been told by a forum member who should know that that particular brand is the only real pseudo in the retail market, but they also said it had residual solvents and was "dirty".
I haven't noticed that to be the case but all I can go by is consumption experience.
About 7 months ago I had gotten 2 kinds and colors of unusually small tabs with "lab beaker" looking imprints from a USA based vendor that were on sale and extremely cheap, and unlike other vendors they took credit cards and had great tech/customer support via phone (shocking-I know!) and email, and I was SO hopeful. Both types of tabs were weak, tasted pretty plain and chalky/bitter which I wouldn't have minded, except they HAD TO have some nasty chemicals in them because they literally made my liver hurt.
Last note on pseudo, before my tolerance went sky high I always thought a commonly available 20mg tablet that claims to be 10mg of each 7OH and pseudo per tablet was more effective than 20-25mg straight 7OH tabs.

Is this the kratom pills I've been reading about on some posts .is it an extract of mitragyna speciosa .is it anything like powdered kratom .

 

[kiely]

""""Is this the kratom pills I've been reading about on some posts .is it an extract of mitragyna speciosa .is it anything like powdered kratom ."""


^^^^^ I think it is. It is just a much stronger extraction of some type. I have some too but I am literally scared to take it because it is so strong.

And the main reason is that I am using benzo dosing instead. I take benzo recreationally ... and to get up off my arse.

 

[lost weekend]

""""Is this the kratom pills I've been reading about on some posts .is it an extract of mitragyna speciosa .is it anything like powdered kratom ."""


^^^^^ I think it is. It is just a much stronger extraction of some type. I have some too but I am literally scared to take it because it is so strong.

And the main reason is that I am using benzo dosing instead. I take benzo recreationally ... and to get up off my arse.

Before last week I'd never heard of them .a few fresh leafs picked from a tree in thailand and eaten within 3 seconds is good enough for me .how do the pills make you feel is it like a strong opiate ,does it give you energy .sorry im just intreuged. Sorry tell me to shut up if you like I don't mean to bother you maybe other bluelighters will share their experience. I'm trying to Finnish the post with a nice Emoji but my phones shit and I can't. Sorry

 

[kiely]

Before last week I'd never heard of them .a few fresh leafs picked from a tree in thailand and eaten within 3 seconds is good enough for me .how do the pills make you feel is it like a strong opiate ,does it give you energy .sorry im just intreuged. Sorry tell me to shut up if you like I don't mean to bother you maybe other bluelighters will share their experience. I'm trying to Finnish the post with a nice Emoji but my phones shit and I can't. Sorry

Oh no not at all


I still haven't taken the pill form. I am terrified.

But put an oxy or a Noco in front of me ..... and my life will be complete. Fulfilled.


I'm so sorry. I am trying to find more information. However, I suppose I will need them if I run into problems with the benzo.


I doubt it about the benzo though. I am just choosing them instead of the 7 oH for now. I'm terrified to mix .... for many reasons.


Starting with metabolizing them. I have never mixed them. I can't wait to try 7 oH to tell you the truth. But I'm a

 

[lost weekend]

Oh no not at all


I still haven't taken the pill form. I am terrified.

But put an oxy or a Noco in front of me ..... and my life will be complete. Fulfilled.


I'm so sorry. I am trying to find more information. However, I suppose I will need them if I run into problems with the benzo.


I doubt it about the benzo though. I am just choosing them instead of the 7 oH for now. I'm terrified to mix .... for many reasons.


Starting with metabolizing them. I have never mixed them. I can't wait to try 7 oH to tell you the truth. But I'm a

Thanks.ive had no problems in the past with a few benzos and some kratom and even a beer or 2 they mix so so well .not that I'm advicating taking such a cocktail of drugs that depress your breathing and no one should attempt it due to the dangers ,but maybe your right if these things are super strong it may not be a good mix .I need to google these things lol

 

[kiely]

I think that I found the purest extract form !!!!

Also these attachments are from the previous .... ' pictures of your stash thread ' as well.

It's very new to me. But I am very happy to have obtained some and to be able to prn them.

Yes !!


However, I think this is and what we are on to !!

~~~~~~~~~~

 

[kiely]

^^^^^^

He say :

" 7OH is a 7hydroxmitragynine which is a kratom derived synthetic opioid. Stronger than regular mitragyinine. "


Everyone is saying though everywhere, it is very dangerous in the perspective of them causing an addiction effect. Or bad tolerance.

This should help.

 

[lost weekend]

I think that I found the purest extract form !!!!

Also these attachments are from the previous .... ' pictures of your stash thread ' as well.

It's very new to me. But I am very happy to have obtained some and to be able to prn them.

Yes !!


However, I think this is and what we are on to !!

~~~~~~~~~~

I wonder if they could be made with regular powder or even an extract more potent than toss and wash

 

[lost weekend]

Tollarance unfortunately wouldn't have been an issue in the past lol

 

[kiely]

I have taken the Kratom leaf

I think the extract is the pure form


I can't take the Kratom because it is leaf form and it strongly disagrees with me.

So I can't


Sorry for no help at all.

However !!!!!! We cannot get ' hooked ' on these things. It's okay though. It's what will happen.

I will try some anyway.

Be cautious. Prayers.





So sorry, please stay well. Use with err of caution indeed !!! Much caution. Everyone else seems to say .... Bad !!!!!