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AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Thank you so much & yea I guess that is a little loca huh 🙂 💜
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I get it though. I'm currently trying to cut off of 7ohm myself. Idk how long it's even been this way, but I got to a point of no longer really taking regular kratom at all, and I've been taking probably 80-120mg 7ohm a day, + other occasional mitragynine extracts, although those don't really do shit anymore at all. My tolerance has gotten stupid, so there's not much more pain relief from it, so beyond making myself itchy AF there's no reason to take it and I need a break.

It must have been really difficult to come off of that level of use, as well I can't imagine how the hell anyone can afford the habit either, it's almost as much as I used to spend on heroin when I had a daily habit and was doing a gram or two every few days. I'd rather be on H though tbh because at least then I'd be high and content for a good part of my day. This shit just sucks and eats my money.

Today's my first day not taking any. Tbh it's mostly only because I'm finding myself too broke, I don't think I'd have the willpower to not take some RN if I had spare cash. I've taken like 7 gs of regular kratom, and some black seed oil, and yeah, still sick as a fuckin dog shit sucks.
 
deficiT said:
I get it though. I'm currently trying to cut off of 7ohm myself. Idk how long it's even been this way, but I got to a point of no longer really taking regular kratom at all, and I've been taking probably 80-120mg 7ohm a day, + other occasional mitragynine extracts, although those don't really do shit anymore at all. My tolerance has gotten stupid, so there's not much more pain relief from it, so beyond making myself itchy AF there's no reason to take it and I need a break.

It must have been really difficult to come off of that level of use, as well I can't imagine how the hell anyone can afford the habit either, it's almost as much as I used to spend on heroin when I had a daily habit and was doing a gram or two every few days. I'd rather be on H though tbh because at least then I'd be high and content for a good part of my day. This shit just sucks and eats my money.

Today's my first day not taking any. Tbh it's mostly only because I'm finding myself too broke, I don't think I'd have the willpower to not take some RN if I had spare cash. I've taken like 7 gs of regular kratom, and some black seed oil, and yeah, still sick as a fuckin dog shit sucks.
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Oh man I’m so sorry you understand. Yea I pretty much maxed out my credit cards on that shit and now in the process of paying it down. Once you get up to certain amounts it only lasts for like 2 hours until you start getting withdrawals. Thats why I couldn’t taper, it was like I was dosing every 2 hours & it just didn’t feel like a taper. Plus the combo of 7oh & pseudo at those amounts really started fn up my whole body … GI tract, chest pains, limbs going numb ect. So I said f it and jumped (it was a fd up withdrawal so I mean if someone can taper more power to them I just couldn’t and needed off).

Anyways, I hope that your withdrawals aren’t as bad and that it goes quickly for you. Rooting for you amigo, you can do it
Hugs 💜

*Im still recovering physically and mentally which is pretty intense (but that’s because I took it too far and too long) … and now all PTSD stuff has come rushing back hard core as well.
Anyways bla bla … didn’t mean to make this about myself, just want you to know you’re not alone … that shit gets its hooks in you. It’s like the Fentanyl of kratom or something.
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
just want you to know you’re not alone
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Neither of you are alone.
I don't want to hijack, let it suffice to say Kratom leaf never did anything for me and I ate 45 caps in 24 hours. Burps tasted like I ate my yard.
The tabs were great at first to sub for my oxy IR and morphine ER scripts when I ran out. 7OH was cheaper than $1/mg for real Rx oxys and effective.
In the last 2-4 weeks my 7OH/pseudo tolerance jumped up and in the last week became a problem.
I just got my Rx meds refilled and I want to use them to taper off the 7OH/pseudo.
God Bless you all!
 
Biomed Tech Guy said:
Neither of you are alone.
I don't want to hijack, let it suffice to say Kratom leaf never did anything for me and I ate 45 caps in 24 hours. Burps tasted like I ate my yard.
The tabs were great at first to sub for my oxy IR and morphine ER scripts when I ran out. 7OH was cheaper than $1/mg for real Rx oxys and effective.
In the last 2-4 weeks my 7OH/pseudo tolerance jumped up and in the last week became a problem.
I just got my Rx meds refilled and I want to use them to taper off the 7OH/pseudo.
God Bless you all!
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Aw no hun you’re not hijacking at all. Please come back as much as you need to talk about this okay. I’ve been meaning to message you back as well (sorry about that, I’ve had a slew of doctors appoints and some other stuff that’s going on) but please know I care. You are not alone either, even though it sure can feel isolating. I’m a chronic pain patient as well and did the same thing as you with trying to use 7 to bridge the gap between scripts. Unfortunately 7oh can block opiates/opioids for a bit. Do whatever you got to do to get off the seven … it’s SO worth it to be off … you can do this, I promise. No matter what don’t give up hope okay … and keep reaching out for support as much as you need
Sending you, strength, support and hope
Gentle hug 💜
 
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AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Aw no hun you’re not hijacking at all. Please come back as much as you need to talk about this okay. I’ve been meaning to message you back as well (sorry about that, I’ve had a slew of doctors appoints and some other stuff that’s going on) but please know I care. You are not alone either, even though it sure can feel isolating. I’m a chronic pain patient as well and did the same thing as you with trying to use 7 to bridge the gap between scripts. Unfortunately 7oh can block opiates/opioids for a bit. Do whatever you got to do to get off the seven … it’s SO worth it to be off … you can do this, I promise. No matter what don’t give up hope okay … and keep reaching out for support as much as you need
Sending you, strength, support and hope
Gentle hug 💜
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I noticed the last 6 weeks my 7OH/pseudo consumption went up, a lot.
In the last 10 days, it got scary.
Good news is I got my Rx meds refilled today and I haven't taken any 7OH or pseudo since 11AM. I did "exceed" my 1 day allotment of Rx meds today, partly a habit of celebrating "refill day" and partly to see if I could completely stop the Kratom, which today I did.
Thank you all!
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Aw no hun you’re not hijacking at all. Please come back as much as you need to talk about this okay. I’ve been meaning to message you back as well (sorry about that, I’ve had a slew of doctors appoints and some other stuff that’s going on) but please know I care. You are not alone either, even though it sure can feel isolating. I’m a chronic pain patient as well and did the same thing as you with trying to use 7 to bridge the gap between scripts. Unfortunately 7oh can block opiates/opioids for a bit. Do whatever you got to do to get off the seven … it’s SO worth it to be off … you can do this, I promise. No matter what don’t give up hope okay … and keep reaching out for support as much as you need
Sending you, strength, support and hope
Gentle hug 💜
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Oh my gosh! I am glad to hear you're recovering, sweetheart. I know this was from over a month ago, but how are you doing now?

I've only recently started trying out 7-OH and pseudoindoxyl in relatively small amounts, as you said, to bridge the gap between scripts and to see if it can prevent me from taking more than my daily Rx amount. Curious as to what your opinion is on using these in small amounts, if one can keep it small amounts...

<3
 
516CAZ said:
I've only recently started trying out 7-OH and pseudoindoxyl in relatively small amounts, as you said, to bridge the gap between scripts
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"if one can keep it in small amounts"...
That wasn't my experience 😕
That's what I did. Seemed to be a money saving legal blessing until roughly 8-10 months in.
At just about the 1 year since my intro to it, I found myself in BIG trouble with the necessity to dose about every 3 hours. It's crushed the effective dose of my Rx meds too.
 
516CAZ said:
Oh my gosh! I am glad to hear you're recovering, sweetheart. I know this was from over a month ago, but how are you doing now?

I've only recently started trying out 7-OH and pseudoindoxyl in relatively small amounts, as you said, to bridge the gap between scripts and to see if it can prevent me from taking more than my daily Rx amount. Curious as to what your opinion is on using these in small amounts, if one can keep it small amounts...

<3
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Aw thank you so much 💜
It’s hard to say, because damn I really know how hard it is these days to get proper pain meds and chronic pain can be tough. But yea, 7oh & pseudo can def be pretty addictive (in my experience more so than other pain meds (opi’s) I’ve taken). It’s like I never want to tell someone the wrong thing or what to do but yea … for sure be careful. Im kind of in a weird spot because I’ve had a pretty bad pain flare and out of my meds as of today & can’t get anything else. So … I ordered some kratom that has a little 7oh in it & not high amounts like I was taking before. I ordered it because I’m genuinely in pain but I hope I’m not playing with fire so to speak. I’ve gone back and forth with it, had some short relapses but definitely not even close to where I was like as in what I wrote in this post. lol sorry I’m rambling a bit because I don’t want to steer ya wrong and still trying to navigate all this stuff myself. But yea what @Biomed Tech Guy wrote I can soo relate to.

Moving forward I’m going to try to just stick to regular Kratom when I need for the most part if/when I don’t have my pain meds. And also see how it goes with these capsules I have right now with just a tiny splash of 7 in them.

I hope any of that made any sense at all. Hope anything I wrote was helpful at all. I do personally think that 7 can affect tolerance to pain meds, especially high or frequent doses.

Either way sending you support and solidarity
Hugs 💜
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Aw thank you so much 💜
It’s hard to say, because damn I really know how hard it is these days to get proper pain meds and chronic pain can be tough. But yea, 7oh & pseudo can def be pretty addictive (in my experience more so than other pain meds (opi’s) I’ve taken). It’s like I never want to tell someone the wrong thing or what to do but yea … for sure be careful. Im kind of in a weird spot because I’ve had a pretty bad pain flare and out of my meds as of today & can’t get anything else. So … I ordered some kratom that has a little 7oh in it & not high amounts like I was taking before. I ordered it because I’m genuinely in pain but I hope I’m not playing with fire so to speak. I’ve gone back and forth with it, had some short relapses but definitely not even close to where I was like as in what I wrote in this post. lol sorry I’m rambling a bit because I don’t want to steer ya wrong and still trying to navigate all this stuff myself. But yea what @Biomed Tech Guy wrote I can soo relate to.

Moving forward I’m going to try to just stick to regular Kratom when I need for the most part if/when I don’t have my pain meds. And also see how it goes with these capsules I have right now with just a tiny splash of 7 in them.

I hope any of that made any sense at all. Hope anything I wrote was helpful at all. I do personally think that 7 can affect tolerance to pain meds, especially high or frequent doses.

Either way sending you support and solidarity
Hugs 💜
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Hi nice to meet you I've never heard of that stuff although I've had extracts .boy I know kratom withdrawl with normal powder and it's hell. I've never taken strong opiates but coming off maeng da nearly made me give up litterley. I used to get withdrawals after 10 hours so dosed first thing morning toss and wash and tea at night .I used to just boil the tea for 5 or 6 minutes then strain and put the remaining gloop in the freezer for emergencies incase I ran out .glad your on the mend
 
kiely said:
Wow I forgot my edit. It's so hard for me to type right now too. How do you do it all so @AngelsandFairiesarereal

Any way. It didn't catch into the message I was trying to write also that

Edit : ( Thank you for some news @ions too ). I want to watch that in the media news but I can't decide what station to choose. Hehe. You know it does get silly around here.
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You are always able to me make laugh, no matter how deep the topic 🤙
 
emkee_reinvented said:
no matter how deep
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it's okay
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