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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v. 10

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nearly ten months in after one singular injection, still feeling very good. the only problem i have right now is that i don't really wanna play video games or pay attention to TV shows. when i play the games i have fun but its the act of starting them. i watched Superman twice and enjoyed it but its the focus thats bothering me. i am diagnosed ADHD + bipolar and my aunt died, plus my brother got into a car accident and my PS3 broke all in the last five days, so i don't know if that has something to do with it. maybe it's just a little wave of invega coming back to say hello. other than that i feel awesome, i finished in the top 3 of a marathon the other day. good enough for me after the invega mess. i get excited at things again; but the main issue is starting things like i said. for example: "I cant wait to start Fallout 3 today Im so excited" and then ill look at the main menu and turn it off. i've been recommended vyvanse, ashwagandha, niacin and NAC. thoughts on any of those anyone? i've been unmedicated for the past two months.
 
also. do not lose hope guys. i have a problem or two left sure, but i went from 202 pounds to 143 pounds. i didn't take a single supplement throughout my entire recovery. i did take one pill, trazodone, but i stopped it quick because it gave me a manic episode. that was in january. after that i said fuck every single psych doctor and began to live off the grid. music sounds even better than before, i dance and air guitar all the time. semen volume is fully back, i have sex a couple times a week without issue. empathy is back, i sweat all over my body now after long walks. i feel like i look more attractive than before. i get piercings and tattoos, go to the mall, i do shit my old self would like.
i know it sounds too good to be true sometimes, but i'm serious. plus invega is the only antipsychotic i've ever taken in my life, just that one time. just gotta get the anhedonia figured out, but other than that, look at my other posts; i'm okay. you will be too, and it's nice you all deal with this professionally; because honestly i want to begin an invega uprising and overthrow janssen but i know that's not realistic. anyways, take care guys.
 
darkthrone said:
also. do not lose hope guys. i have a problem or two left sure, but i went from 202 pounds to 143 pounds. i didn't take a single supplement throughout my entire recovery. i did take one pill, trazodone, but i stopped it quick because it gave me a manic episode. that was in january. after that i said fuck every single psych doctor and began to live off the grid. music sounds even better than before, i dance and air guitar all the time. semen volume is fully back, i have sex a couple times a week without issue. empathy is back, i sweat all over my body now after long walks. i feel like i look more attractive than before. i get piercings and tattoos, go to the mall, i do shit my old self would like.
i know it sounds too good to be true sometimes, but i'm serious. plus invega is the only antipsychotic i've ever taken in my life, just that one time. just gotta get the anhedonia figured out, but other than that, look at my other posts; i'm okay. you will be too, and it's nice you all deal with this professionally; because honestly i want to begin an invega uprising and overthrow janssen but i know that's not realistic. anyways, take care guys.
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What are your thoughts on using dopamine agonists to reverse the issue? I'm planning to do that.
 
Can't even feel angry or sad. Emotions feels severely restricted. Can't think properly. Living is hell.really hope I didn't get brain damage from the clopixol.
 
Matthew01 said:
What are your thoughts on using dopamine agonists to reverse the issue? I'm planning to do that.
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reversing the issue isn't possible in my opinion. i recovered to the point where i feel much better than i used to be; as drug addiction got me admitted in the first place. i do not miss my old self. i think that, depending on your mental health history and your current recovery timeline, stimulants may help. i recall seeing a few here who claimed to have success from it, and i myself took a friends' vyvanse pill as he let me try it and i felt two times better. be careful though because they're complicated, and most people here probably are barred from stimulants, but if you're asking just me what i think helped a ton? i didn't buy fish oil, st johns wort, nothing. just time and that one vyvanse somehow kicked me back into 'normalcy.' could be because i have ADHD but that one pill was like magic. if you don't believe me, test it.
 
Matthew01 said:
Can't even feel angry or sad. Emotions feels severely restricted. Can't think properly. Living is hell.really hope I didn't get brain damage from the clopixol.
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i had invega not clopixol but i felt very similar effects. that vyvanse pill was like meth to my body, i know it sounds crazy but it's like it forced my brain to wake up. couldn't hurt to try one right? just don't develop a habit.
 
darkthrone said:
reversing the issue isn't possible in my opinion. i recovered to the point where i feel much better than i used to be; as drug addiction got me admitted in the first place. i do not miss my old self. i think that, depending on your mental health history and your current recovery timeline, stimulants may help. i recall seeing a few here who claimed to have success from it, and i myself took a friends' vyvanse pill as he let me try it and i felt two times better. be careful though because they're complicated, and most people here probably are barred from stimulants, but if you're asking just me what i think helped a ton? i didn't buy fish oil, st johns wort, nothing. just time and that one vyvanse somehow kicked me back into 'normalcy.' could be because i have ADHD but that one pill was like magic. if you don't believe me, test it.
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How normal did you feel when you took that pill? I was falsely diagnosed and forcefully injected with clopixol,my situation is an emergency situation,i live in a third world country.they gave that injection for absolutely nothing and I need fix things.. It severely reduced my joy,motivation,happiness and sexual libido. It also severely restricted my emotions. I feel emotionless. Thinking is also hard and dull. Do you think that vyvanse pill can help with these effects? Do you also feel the effects I'm feeling when you took that injection? Also how normal do you feel now? Do you still feel the effects?
 
Matthew01 said:
How normal did you feel when you took that pill? I was falsely diagnosed and forcefully injected with clopixol,my situation is an emergency situation,i live in a third world country.they gave that injection for absolutely nothing and I need fix things.. It severely reduced my joy,motivation,happiness and sexual libido. It also severely restricted my emotions. I feel emotionless. Thinking is also hard and dull. Do you think that vyvanse pill can help with these effects? Do you also feel the effects I'm feeling when you took that injection? Also how normal do you feel now? Do you still feel the effects?
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third world country? where are you from if i may ask? or you can dm me if you feel safer. i am turkish, living in the united states now. i felt much better after that pill, seriously. i got on my playstation for like six hours straight which prior to taking it i was lucky to get two hours in without being miserable. sometimes all you need is to be started up again, like how an engine or generator needs to be activated. that's what worked for me though, i was probably super lucky. after that i was able to smoke weed and do drugs just fine for months before i quit. you don't need to spend hundreds on supplements. i'm literally texting you from the park right now, just finished my 3rd mile today. it's honestly a matter of luck, man. like people say, some get lucky some don't.
 
darkthrone said:
third world country? where are you from if i may ask? or you can dm me if you feel safer. i am turkish, living in the united states now. i felt much better after that pill, seriously. i got on my playstation for like six hours straight which prior to taking it i was lucky to get two hours in without being miserable. sometimes all you need is to be started up again, like how an engine or generator needs to be activated. that's what worked for me though, i was probably super lucky. after that i was able to smoke weed and do drugs just fine for months before i quit. you don't need to spend hundreds on supplements. i'm literally texting you from the park right now, just finished my 3rd mile today. it's honestly a matter of luck, man. like people say, some get lucky some don't.
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A matter of luck? I can't stay like this for the rest of my life, living like this is hellfire. I don't deserve this. I don't feel any improvement and thinking is hard now,the drugs they gave me that help was akineton and i took it twice, it helped with the slow and weird movement problem and partially with the blurry vision. Would that vyvanse help me even though i don't have ADHD? The injection that was forcefully given to me was clopixol on the april 15th, I planning to take a dopamine agonist with a very high affinity level so that it might overpower it. The drugs that are on my mind are apomorphine and cabergoline. I'm also thinking of taking the stimulant called ritalin. Do you think it would help? This stuff I'm going through has really messed up my life, are you sure you feel absolutely better? Did it affect the way you enjoy music?
 
Matthew01 said:
A matter of luck? I can't stay like this for the rest of my life, living like this is hellfire. I don't deserve this. I don't feel any improvement and thinking is hard now,the drugs they gave me that help was akineton and i took it twice, it helped with the slow and weird movement problem and partially with the blurry vision. Would that vyvanse help me even though i don't have ADHD? The injection that was forcefully given to me was clopixol on the april 15th, I planning to take a dopamine agonist with a very high affinity level so that it might overpower it. The drugs that are on my mind are apomorphine and cabergoline. I'm also thinking of taking the stimulant called ritalin. Do you think it would help? This stuff I'm going through has really messed up my life, are you sure you feel absolutely better? Did it affect the way you enjoy music?
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honestly, go for it. it's not gonna kill you take one ritalin pill; if you like how you feel you keep going and if not you stop. i'm genuinely sure i'm better, i have before and after pictures of myself too. it did help with the music as well as a bunch of other things; like i said sometimes you need a powerful wakeup tool. take my words/advice with a grain of salt but as someone who recovered with no supplements and felt better after taking a pill or two of vyvanse, why not? if you can't access stimulants or are afraid, i also know someone who felt the same thing after taking the first dose of effexor. supposedly the first pill is like similar to meth or ritalin. you gotta try it for yourself. i tried these things and it worked out well for me. again, 0 supplements purchased. just finished my 5th mile. going home now to play video games with friends.
 
oh and, since i've been here a while, i've also seen that TonyTonyChopper took a stimulant once and claimed he felt focused and energetic. you can ask him as well.
 
darkthrone said:
oh and, since i've been here a while, i've also seen that TonyTonyChopper took a stimulant once and claimed he felt focused and energetic. you can ask him as well.
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Thanks, also do I need to have adhd to get pescribed that medicine called vyvanse? Can I tell the doctor and he would listen?
 
Matthew01 said:
Thanks, also do I need to have adhd to get pescribed that medicine called vyvanse? Can I tell the doctor and he would listen?
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i mean you could lie and fabricate a way into making them think you have it, but that's at your discretion and caution. i only took it because i really have ADHD. although a lot of people take or abuse it, even those without ADHD. vyvanse, ritalin, just something for energy; stimulants.
 
darkthrone said:
oh and, since i've been here a while, i've also seen that TonyTonyChopper took a stimulant once and claimed he felt focused and energetic. you can ask him as well.
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i took my sisters vyvanse couple of times and found that the standard 30 mg did nothing but when i took double the dose at 60 mg it actually worked and felt my focus was sharper and felt stimulated. I would not recommend stimulants long term cuz they cause harm to the brain.
 
Matthew01 said:
Thanks, also do I need to have adhd to get pescribed that medicine called vyvanse? Can I tell the doctor and he would listen?
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if you have history of psychosis you can kiss your dream of getting stimualnts goodbye . Once you have a record of psychosis no doctor will ever consider stimulants as they can cause psychosis themselves. Stimulants are only prescribed for ADHD and even if you somehow manage to get a diagnosis of ADHD they will give you off label medication for focus like Wellbutrin or Strattera
 
@Matthew01 bro medication isn't going to fix you and magically undo all the damage done by the injections. Consider significant lifestyle changes like an excellent diet , microbiome , exercise , socializing , improving the relationship with your family, quit drugs and pursing goals and hobbies. All you will do with this dopamine agonist nonsense is permanently damage your brain. Trust me I know, I took parnate thinking it was going to cure and reverse all the damage from invega but all it did was give me the scariest psychosis for 2 months which ended up in not sleeping for 8 days and a hospitlization. I even had to go back on olanzapine 5 mg for few days doing more damage to my brain . I didn't learn though as i'm giving abilify 2 mg one final chance before quitting all medication.
 
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@Matthew01 bro medication isn't going to fix you and magically undo all the damage done by the injections. Consider significant lifestyle changes like an excellent diet , microbiome , exercise , socializing , improving the relationship with your family, quit drugs and pursing goals and hobbies. All you will do with this dopamine agonist nonsense is permanently damage your brain. Trust me I know, I took parnate thinking it was going to cure and reverse all the damage from invega but all it did was give me the scariest psychosis for 2 months which ended up in not sleeping for 8 days and a hospitlization. I even had to go back on olanzapine 5 mg for few days doing more damage to my brain . I didn't learn though as i'm giving abilify 2 mg one final chance before quitting all medication.
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But it says in the natural library of medicine site that dopamine agonists can be used to treat the side effects of antipsychotics.
This is the page where I got the information
Thoughts?
 
Matthew01 said:
But it say it can be used for the blockade of dopamine D2 receptors.
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N you are asking questions that are better answered by a professor or a graduate student in psychiatry. Why not follow that guide that the dude who said he spent 750k on finding a cure for the damage done by the drugs?
 
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