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Stimulants Is nicotine bad for you?

JohnBoy2000

JohnBoy2000

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Smoking obviously is but that's the delivery mechanism.

What other ways of nicotine delivery exist, and is nicotine actually benign in itself?

Compare with coffee, caffeine seems to be an acceptable stimulant, widely used with little meaningful health drawbacks at moderate doses.

Nicotine on the other hand, are their significant drawbacks to its use?

I'm looking for something to act as a stimulant and/or dopamine enhancer, that's benign.

I can no longer use my prescribed stimulant (methylphenidate), and cannot continue to use codeine in solpedeine as a dopamine booster.

Coffee is actually okay, it does something, which is better than nothing. Made in a lattee with cinnamon and honey it actually has good anti-oxidant value.

I am a nicotine blank slate however; is it something to be avoided from a health point of view, or is there a way to incorporate it into your lifestyle such that it can be used positively with little negative health effects?
 
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Well it's a carcinogen in and of itself, but so is red meat, fish, a wide variety of other meats, naturally occurring plant, animal and fungus constituents and synthetic chemicals. So yes it can be bad for you definitely, but so can anything in excess.
 
Take this with a grain of salt… but I watched a podcast with Hamilton morris on it (I believe it was with Danny Jones - not a fan of him but was interested in Hamilton lol) and he said he pops a zyn every now and then when he wants to get things done.. kinda similar to a low dose of a stimulant. I also believe they spoke about some kratom drink in the same way. He was what I would describe as ‘incredibly sensible about it’ and explained why he won’t take it all the time.

He seems to have this bizarre sense of self control that I can’t relate to… and as we all know, nicotine is very fucking addictive, among many other not so great things..
 
Research indicates that nicotine itself is not classified as a direct carcinogen. In other words, nicotine isn’t thought to cause cancer on its own. However, several studies suggest that nicotine may contribute indirectly to cancer progression by promoting cell proliferation, angiogenesis, and processes such as the epithelial-mesenchymal transition (EMT), which can help tumor cells grow and spread . Furthermore, nicotine may interfere with tumor suppressor mechanisms (like CHK2) and could potentially reduce the effectiveness of some cancer therapies, thereby indirectly influencing cancer outcomes .

It’s important to note that while nicotine is the addictive component in tobacco products, cigarette smoke contains numerous other chemicals—including many well-established carcinogens—that are primarily responsible for the increased cancer risk associated with smoking. Thus, most of the carcinogenic risk linked to tobacco comes from these other toxins, not from nicotine directly .
 
I mean, if you're dead set on starting nicotine, the only less dangerous way to administer it would probably be with Zyn or similar products, but be careful with them. They usually contain more nicotine than smoking tobacco, delivering 300 times the drug that a cigarette would.
 
Nicotine is a Nootropic drug. Performance enhancing compound

Increase dopamine & acetylcholine in CNS…. sharper focus, attention, reaction time, mood-boosting properties, and yes, “addictive” …regular moderate to heavy usage will cause dependence and withdrawal upon cessation

It’s the only stimulant that has calming properties in addition to stimulating properties…weird ah

I was so agitated and angry…..driving had a fresh king sized Belmont (premium Canadian cigarette @ $20 small pack) best smooth tasting flavour, the finest you’ll ever have…….immediately I was calm and content

Nicotine 3-4mg average absorption by 1 cigarette

But gum or patch safer and better obviously, smoking is #1 cause of preventable death and health problems

It’s idiotic humans smoke cigarettes……but Billions for tobacco industry…….healthcare is another issue
 
Uhhh…..I smoke cigarettes. Yes? addict? …..I’m dependent on nicotine as a smoker

But I’ve had 4mg gum for a year and it’s very effective and safe. 2mg gum for average person. Nicotine is actually kinda beneficial and relatively safe, in low therapeutic doses.

As I said, it’s a Nootropic drug, increasing dopamine & acetylcholine (learning/memory neurotransmitter) people with dementia and Alzheimer’s have extremely low levels of acetylcholine in their CNS

Nicotine is beneficial to performance enhancing, dopamine mood-boosting, energy, cognitive enhancement

Nicorette Gum 2mg and 4mg for when tolerance occurs and 2mg isn’t potent enough

Try a 2mg gum……you’ll feel it, you chew then keep gum in side of cheek and let juices absorb under your tongue which is rich in blood vessels, enhanced absorption. You don’t chew it like normal gum
 
My father smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and his doctor told him take all the nicotine you want as long as you aren't smoking and you DONT OVERDOSE. pure nicotine is not to be played with.

It is a vasoconstrictor and CNS stimulant so it must be a little bad? Idk
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
That'll be why it calms you down then - you're basically in withdrawal and then you're not. It's not calming in and of itself imo/ime
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I go 4-6 h sometimes without cigarette and am fine….sometimes I have one when I don’t really need one, nice somg while I’m flying down the Hwy, but at a base line let’s say…..a premium cigarette, taking nice hauls, exhaling slowly, a calming sensation comes on, as a stimulant it’s unique in this aspect

…..and the LD-50 lethal dose for nicotine is no joke, there’s liquid solutions with 1,000’s of mg probably and it would be a horrid experience
 
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