IS it me or is dispensary cannabis not the same as home grown cannabis?

[foodcrisis]

have heard it's good to let the buds sit for longer before harvesting... in mass usa, i let some of the plants stay longer in the season, and they turned more purple/brown. i guess that's common when they are cold...i could see a long season in certain environments creating better buds, obviously something people talk about.. i wouldn't be surprsied if there's something random in weed which they don't even measure. really feels that way to me since i've been reading what's in my weed with it being legal.

 

[Mjäll]

THC will absolutely feel VERY different when consumed with different amounts of CBD.
I have experimented on this, as well as a few people I know extremely well.
Just smoke any high THC% weed one day, the next day have some 99% CBD crystals and a meth pipe ready, or a CBD only vape if you prefer.
Smoke that high THC% weed, and while you smoke it, or right after, vaporise a significant dose of CBD... dunno, 50mg?

You will notice different effects, just like me and my friends did, and it will not be subtle at all.

CBD has research showing that it reduces the intensity of the effects of THC.

Tried it, no qualitative difference

I think this is leaning toward the old agree to disagree

One thing: Do you also think there is a prevalent phenomenon of exaggerating and mystifying whatever true differences do or don't exist for some or all people?

 

[Mjäll]

Well, I guess I can't tell for someone else, but seeing as many people have freakouts as I have, I wouldn't think so. I was killing people with Super Silver Haze when I'd bring it around because they all smoke indica. It seems most people prefer it. I know this much: it's certainly not placebo for me.

The descriptions sound so similar to - almost indistinguishable from - just having too much THC

 

[Phobos]

One thing: Do you also think there is a prevalent phenomenon of exaggerating and mystifying whatever true differences do or don't exist for some or all people?

Oh, for sure there is A LOT of that going around.

IME as a grower, it is an early or late harvest and the amount of UV light during flower that determines the quality of the effects, more than the strain.
Different strains grown side by side have mostly have relatively subtle differences.
I'm sure that some strains will be qualitatively different enough even when grown side by side, ie Runtz is very different high from a Silver Have.

The strain can probably have, again IME, a big part in overall potency, if grown right, and also in taste/flavour.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

We only recently started opening dispensaries once for doctor prescribed weed and once that sell there own. Never have I ever tried our medicinal cannabis here but the normal cannabis shops are always selling top notch shit. Though pricing has become ridiculous expensive, especially the prescribed weed. They outlandish expensive. Remer my mate paying close to 3x the amount then a cannabis shop and they already exp them self. That why growing your own and being super good friends with a cannabis shop owner helps a ton.

 

[BourbonMac]

Tried it, no qualitative difference

I think this is leaning toward the old agree to disagree

One thing: Do you also think there is a prevalent phenomenon of exaggerating and mystifying whatever true differences do or don't exist for some or all people?

Your endocannabinoid system doesn't feel the difference. Doesn't mean it isn't real. Anyway, if you really can't tell apart different strains effects, that's just how you're wired. I've had strains that don't even feel like the same drug, like straight up not even close. And no, other people freaking out isn't from "too much" THC.

Friend of mines girlfriend basically never smokes but had been ripping on a really high THC pen completely fine the other night. I come through with some Acapulco Gold that's just 15% grown by my oldest brother and after 2 hits she was so fucked up she had to be carried to bed because she had a straight up mental breakdown, the likes of which I've never seen.

I didn't tell her it was a Sativa, I just said she should be fine because of the THC percentage, but nah, she straight up died. I get that flower is pretty much always going to be stronger, but she'll still smoke once in awhile, and usually it's almost purely indica or someone's homegrown and she's fine. Either way, if nothing's gonna convince you then that's fine, I guess.

I'm gonna assume that because she takes Adderall, the more heady strains are why she'll freak out on them, but she can smoke something like GDP for instance and she's chilling hard. Last time we had GDP it was near 30% THC and we smoked a whole blunt with her. 2 hits of my shit and within no time she went from chilling to breaking down "not feeling right" to unhinged panic attack, one of the worst I've seen.

I already emphasized how I believed this was all a myth for most of the time I've smoked and grew to find out that at least for me, it isn't. For some people, all strains really will just feel the same, but even with a tolerance that wasn't entirely true. I acknowledged there were times I'd have bud that gave me way more energy. Anyway, I've said all I feel is necessary.

Whether it's because as someone else said, Sativa's tend to be higher in THC-V is why strains on that side tend to be more energizing is why they tend to be, I don't really know. But your original argument of THC = THC is definitely off. All strains would basically just be distillate if that were so.

 

[Esperighanto]

you know what i mean its like the government is trying to kill us and brain wash us i think weed should be legal but cannabis shops shouldnt be around

My homegrown was ass, but dispos in Maine always kill it. They tend to buy from a variety of small scale growers who started as home growers, maybe other states/nations that have centralized government grows do it poorly? I'm not quite sure, but immediately jumping towards unfounded claims of conspiratorial thought aren't likely to help much imo.

Have you considered sending some out for third party analysis to see if there are any wacked out terpenes or cannabinoids present that may be affecting your high?

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I think it is you. (Which either means you may not be getting the best weed which would be odd at a dispensary OR you or someone you know is particularly talented in the garden.)

I can say every person I know that sold pot was pushed off the market by dispensaries (which sucks alot of friends there some of them pissed). Like trying to compete with walmart -- and in that sense the soul is kind of gone.

I have not had weed better than the dispensaries would be the most valid statement. One guy that is pretty close, better than cheap disp buds not as good as deli/even highend.

ps vapepen technology still feels like a crazy futuristic concept to me, just plug it into my laptop and push a button and 90% thc will be delivered. ( I woulda called bullshit if you told me you had invented such a thing 25 yrs ago )

 

[64tf]

The best weed is the weed you grow yourself. This October I'll have enough to have a huge trim party, and send everyone home with a jar.

 

[64tf]

I've heard the use of PGRs is what causes the pretty, but shitty weed. I'm not sure if that's true.

PGR Plant Growth Regulators.

 

[Direwolf131]

You guys crack me up, its crazy how reefer has been ruined, just today I drove over to MI from WI and visited a dispensary and purchased my very first weed in four decades. In MI you can now visit these dispensaries and purchase whatever the fuck you want, all of it ludicrously over-potent, some of it insanely so. I must have been thought of as some far out old timer as I queried staff about potency. explaining that when I first smoked the herb back in the day, you effectively had two choices, Mexican or Columbian gold, a big fat four finger bag stuffed with Mexican brown for $15.00, or a measured oz of Columbian gold for $40.00! Good lord what the fuck have they done to what was once a ridiculously good time, I would smoke a small pipe (bowl) with friends of the Mexican and it was great, the same of the Columbian was certain to do two things, get you stupidly giggly, and hunting down food, both were harmless good fun. My buddy who is a pharmacist tells me that that Columbian gold was likely 14-17% THC, and the Mexican less than half of that. the flower I purchase today is listed as 25.5% THC, which is crazy high, I haven't tried it yet, but I assume one toke will very likely suffice!

 

[Robi]

I love my pot shops,kick ass and not very expensive couch lock and I like that now,no paranoia,the edibles taste so good,the rice crispy cakes should be illegal, cant drive,or wear clothes ,eat Mexican food like it was our last meal,eaten before bed,have dreams as if I was the director and actor ,my experience is the shops rule over any homegrown

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

You guys crack me up, its crazy how reefer has been ruined, just today I drove over to MI from WI and visited a dispensary and purchased my very first weed in four decades. In MI you can now visit these dispensaries and purchase whatever the fuck you want, all of it ludicrously over-potent, some of it insanely so. I must have been thought of as some far out old timer as I queried staff about potency. explaining that when I first smoked the herb back in the day, you effectively had two choices, Mexican or Columbian gold, a big fat four finger bag stuffed with Mexican brown for $15.00, or a measured oz of Columbian gold for $40.00! Good lord what the fuck have they done to what was once a ridiculously good time, I would smoke a small pipe (bowl) with friends of the Mexican and it was great, the same of the Columbian was certain to do two things, get you stupidly giggly, and hunting down food, both were harmless good fun. My buddy who is a pharmacist tells me that that Columbian gold was likely 14-17% THC, and the Mexican less than half of that. the flower I purchase today is listed as 25.5% THC, which is crazy high, I haven't tried it yet, but I assume one toke will very likely suffice!

I quit reading at ludicrously over potent... (actually I didnt) 14-17% is still good weed. I buy top of the line and concentrate from MI dispensaries and aim for 25% on flower (Knowing full well it is + 0- 10% and the labs are HIGHLY PRESSURED to give the highest percent potency if they want to continue working with said grower/enterprise.

You know you can get cheap weed for cheap at dispos right? If 17% is you're preferred range you should be able to get an oz for like 50. (Im in MI so I know the brands, message me if you want for brand/dispo advice)

 

[anna21]

Honestly, it’s not just you—dispensary weed really does feel different from homegrown.
A lot of dispensary cannabis is grown on a big scale, and they usually focus on high THC and looks. But sometimes that means the flavor or smoothness isn’t quite the same. It might be super strong, but the high can feel a little flat or too intense.
Homegrown, especially when done right, just hits different. It can be fresher, smoother, and the effects often feel more balanced. Plus, there's something special about knowing how it was grown and cured.

So yeah, you're not imagining it. There’s definitely a difference.

 

[vlzinspace]

Tried it, no qualitative difference

I think this is leaning toward the old agree to disagree

One thing: Do you also think there is a prevalent phenomenon of exaggerating and mystifying whatever true differences do or don't exist for some or all people?

cbd definitely alters the high. you can observe this if you are a dabber who only smokes pure THC then goes to smoke a blunt after awhile. you can be smoking pure 80-95% daily (me) and that blunt will get you high as shit. or what i do sometimes since i dab is use 20mg cbd drink mix

to op's post, the commercialization of marijuana (or anything) leads to lesser quality, as the primary drive for the business (profit) will ofc dictate quantity over quality for obvious reasons. i got some blue dream a couple years ago from a grower and it was med quality chef's kiss, other than that one time i haven't seen any good weed since florida 2010, also from a personal grower as it was illegal then. i actually just got 2 weed plants on saturday because of this very reason, haha

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I say shenanigans to lesser quality post commercialization -- wasn't the original complaint the exact opposite. ^I hear what you are saying with THC v Full Spectrum. Personally I keep weed around for the base buzz and add in concentrates as THC is the main thing you get high off. (Terps/CBD is great but lets look at %'s and not pretend something is now missing)

Nostalgia I believe is the word for what you are experiencing?

"Homegrown, especially when done right" -- Extrapolate! I'm going to sound like a pot know it all and I get I'm not the only one but up until 04' my father was growing top of the line sensi star feminized seeds in what when raided the state police called "The most scientifically intensive growroom they had ever seen" Co2, Moving lights -- room for veg, room for flower, room/area for clones. Pulling lbs a month off a 24 plant rotation. That was the best weed I smoked until pot was legalized and I am pretty sure it is every bit as good (Better) as everybody I know that was growing has stopped. We are talking ppl that have been growing 30 yrs --- I know one guy that is real close to dispensary quality, honestly I think he should go that route but who am I to say anything. (I don't know the economics really either).

The point being I know Alot of ppl that grew what was considered "Dank" during all the illegal yrs and now they can't sell a zip for what the same price they'd off quarters all day.

 

[vlzinspace]

I say shenanigans to lesser quality post commercialization -- wasn't the original complaint the exact opposite. ^I hear what you are saying with THC v Full Spectrum. Personally I keep weed around for the base buzz and add in concentrates as THC is the main thing you get high off. (Terps/CBD is great but lets look at %'s and not pretend something is now missing)

Nostalgia I believe is the word for what you are experiencing?

"Homegrown, especially when done right" -- Extrapolate! I'm going to sound like a pot know it all and I get I'm not the only one but up until 04' my father was growing top of the line sensi star feminized seeds in what when raided the state police called "The most scientifically intensive growroom they had ever seen" Co2, Moving lights -- room for veg, room for flower, room/area for clones. Pulling lbs a month off a 24 plant rotation. That was the best weed I smoked until pot was legalized and I am pretty sure it is every bit as good (Better) as everybody I know that was growing has stopped. We are talking ppl that have been growing 30 yrs --- I know one guy that is real close to dispensary quality, honestly I think he should go that route but who am I to say anything. (I don't know the economics really either).

The point being I know Alot of ppl that grew what was considered "Dank" during all the illegal yrs and now they can't sell a zip for what the same price they'd off quarters all day.

thats pretty stupid. calling shenanigans on the legitimate business factors that lower quality, and dismissing this as nostalgia? go to sleep bro. there's a difference, and more than likely (100% duh) it has something or everything to do with producing more buds vs producing quality buds. dry not sticky, no nuclear reek.... lower quality high.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

I have a lot of complaints with corporate cannabis too, it feels all exactly the same almost no matter what strain I try. it drives me nuts, even the concentrates are all identical!

basically none of it has that warm stoning feel to me, there is definitely something going on but I don't know what it is

full spectrum concentrates like RSO are like this too. it isn't me because I've tried things elsewhere, and different brands. the big producers are all clinical standardized weirdness

honestly I wish I knew what the difference was chemically, that would bankroll a cannabusiness easy

maybe the missing ingredient is nan's love

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

thats pretty stupid. calling shenanigans on the legitimate business factors that lower quality, and dismissing this as nostalgia? go to sleep bro. there's a difference, and more than likely (100% duh) it has something or everything to do with producing more buds vs producing quality buds. dry not sticky, no nuclear reek.... lower quality high.

What I am saying is please present some factual evidence of "Homegrown" being better and "Define Better". Refrain from ad home like "Thats stupid, go to sleep bro" as why?

More than likely a 100% difference, by which you mean homegrown is twice as good or they are 100% different things? Either way examine the statement. The way capitalism works is they are motivated to turn out the best product possible so you buy theirs not a different brand. (or from your buddy that grows)

Someguyontheinternet -- I don't disagree too much about them all being similar other than taste but I think that is just a rough quality cap out? Send in a sample of each and get the full breakdown is about the only way I could see finding what the mystery element is. *unless it is indeed Nana's love* --- One more quick point, the blackmarket is inconsistent so if you get a really good bag once and a while that bag prolly will make you higher than if you get a good bag every time. (Idk just eliminating or pointing out variables)

 

[vlzinspace]

What I am saying is please present some factual evidence of "Homegrown" being better and "Define Better". Refrain from ad home like "Thats stupid, go to sleep bro" as why?

More than likely a 100% difference, by which you mean homegrown is twice as good or they are 100% different things? Either way examine the statement. The way capitalism works is they are motivated to turn out the best product possible so you buy theirs not a different brand. (or from your buddy that grows)

Someguyontheinternet -- I don't disagree too much about them all being similar other than taste but I think that is just a rough quality cap out? Send in a sample of each and get the full breakdown is about the only way I could see finding what the mystery element is. *unless it is indeed Nana's love* --- One more quick point, the blackmarket is inconsistent so if you get a really good bag once and a while that bag prolly will make you higher than if you get a good bag every time. (Idk just eliminating or pointing out variables)

"why" because it's grade A jackassery to drop in the thread, call my post "low quality shenanigans" then insert a condescending argument that we're essentially retarded and shouldn't trust our senses and attribute it to experiencing some sort of "nostalgia"

and that's not the entire case regarding capitalism, if they effectuate dominance of the market to the extent they can sell us bullshit for the same price they'd sell good then they'll opt for that, which is what we are experiencing today