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IS it me or is dispensary cannabis not the same as home grown cannabis?

also thinking about this, my friend used to go to this one dealer sometimes, and it was the same exact super silver glue and sour diesel strains as one local dispensary's house flower, like it's been years since i smoked them, but they are 100% the same from my memory... i've gotten 100s of different weed flavors and smells and ways they look. seems too close for them not to be the same grower.

also there is a brand in my state where the dude got caught growing illegally, and then when weed became legal the state gave him and his family a bunch of money to start a business with his growing techniques when they let him out of jail. i haven't tried it. it's the most expensive marijuana in the state for some reason. i can get a half of good weed for the price of an 1/8th of it.
 
I agree but if we are overdosing off two hits of 50% THC diamond infused in stead of threshold dosing off a few hits of outdoor 10% shit, it’s going to be a different experience

Sure but a rational user will simply adjust the dose not think there is some voodoo shit
 
In this case (and i'd argue in most cases) clearly placebo - there is no "crack weed" where THC mysteriously has a shorter and vastly inferior effect.

I'm open to nuances but that's not what's at play here i think. Besides, no other naturally occurring cannabinoid is established as a psychoactive.
Nah, definitely not placebo. I pretty much only smoke Sativa and most people I know freak the hell out every time I bring Super Silver Haze or something. There's just an absolutely massive difference, again, if I say smoked Northern Lights and Thai. Pure landrace indica vs. sativa.

The Thai gives me a hell of a lot of energy and is the complete opposite of the NL high. I thought it was placebo until 14 years later when I smoked some Sour Diesel and was tweaking. Not all strains are the same. THC might be THC, but again, the other cannabinoids plus endocannabinoid systems differing can result in people either noticing a difference, or not being able to notice one because that's just how it's built for them.
 
Sativa is a much more ' awareness ' effect apparently but works like that for me. As in Intensifies. Enhances ect.

Sativa is a much more uplifting and stable head high and Indica is more sleepy and relaxing to me as it is said.

And apparently is a higher thc level and strength in Sativa.


I would much rather have an aware buzz than sleepy and tripping ( stumbling ) one. Yes because they are both potent and quite strong.

It is just so much darn harder to grow large amounts than hybrid. Hybrids take up all the room. Hybrid takes off and dominates it seems like.

Yes Indica grows like a weed and bushy. I love them all. But that is basically all the difference for me.

Indica helps with pain more, I would say, just because it's more relaxing as a couch weed I suppose. You gotta love laying around on a couch too though.
I sure do but is supposed to be better for a bedtime strain then or relaxing around a while.

However, the rule usually goes with them is ... Sativa : Sunny and Uplifitng. Indica : for Nighttime and Sleeping.

Sativa more of a focus high and energetic for me. haha.

I got some mixed with an Indica dose right now at the moment and am happy with the relaxing effect. Anyway. 🙂:weedleaf:
 
I find this government cannabis isnt grown from the heart from the human touch its like crack weed it looks good but it doesnt get your eyes red doesnt get eyes red or that throat hit and only gets you high for 1 hour aka crack weed.
Gets you high for 1 hour and makes you buy more the grow it with machines not with human touch i think they shouldnt have dispensary but weed should be legal in canada we use to make so much money off cannabis and it was so much better and grown way better now its not grown right.
i prefer good outdoor kush indica and i use to make so much money off it then selling any other drugs besides selling pills and "clear' aka meth.
I think dispensaries should be only how its like the natives are doing it growing it with love and spirit the proper way get high for hours imo.

i legit made so much money in grade 9 selling .5 "fin"s 5$ bags cause i didnt get no lunch money making 300$ a day at school.
i still can make money off hoe grown kush from old schoolers if its homegrown cause they agree they hate the dispensary shit too.

Its like cigarettes to in canada now to the talor mades are worse then the natives there legit sheets of papers coated on the cigarettes, the native smokes are better i find they use the orginal paper and the tabacco is better there not using the left over trimming tabbaccoo mixxed with dried up maple leafs any more.

IMO I think there should be a change
The commercial grow shit is strong but not good. Strong and large quantity is all they care abooot( that is Canadian for, about). Canada use to be known for great weed and especially the good strains and many grown using hydroponics.
 
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Nah, definitely not placebo. I pretty much only smoke Sativa and most people I know freak the hell out every time I bring Super Silver Haze or something. There's just an absolutely massive difference, again, if I say smoked Northern Lights and Thai. Pure landrace indica vs. sativa.

The Thai gives me a hell of a lot of energy and is the complete opposite of the NL high. I thought it was placebo until 14 years later when I smoked some Sour Diesel and was tweaking. Not all strains are the same. THC might be THC, but again, the other cannabinoids plus endocannabinoid systems differing can result in people either noticing a difference, or not being able to notice one because that's just how it's built for them.
I believe some of those intense sativas are actually higher in THCv, sour diesel being one
 
That's placebo

THC is THC
If you grow the same plants, same conditions and everything, literally from the same room, and harvest at different (enough) times, you'll get a different effect from it, it will have also a different taste and smell, and it will also look slightly different.
An extra 2 to 4 weeks of flowering past the "ideal" peak THC concentration date will give you a very very different experience.

IME, it will not give any significant extra yield, and especially the yield that you get will absolutely not be worth the energy you spend to get it, and also itàs not worth delaying your next crop either.
Unless you specifically want that plant to have that type of effect and flavour.

So I am not surprised that growers favour a early harvest: it maximizes the weight they can get out of their space per year, and that they also spin it that their stupid high THC% is a desirable trait when it's absolutely not the case, at least not most of the time.
A later harvest will have a lower THC% but also a higher overall cannabinoid content.
CBD% for sure is up if you harvest later as THC gets slowly converted into CBD while the plant is alive.
 
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Nah, definitely not placebo. I pretty much only smoke Sativa and most people I know freak the hell out every time I bring Super Silver Haze or something. There's just an absolutely massive difference, again, if I say smoked Northern Lights and Thai. Pure landrace indica vs. sativa.

The Thai gives me a hell of a lot of energy and is the complete opposite of the NL high. I thought it was placebo until 14 years later when I smoked some Sour Diesel and was tweaking. Not all strains are the same. THC might be THC, but again, the other cannabinoids plus endocannabinoid systems differing can result in people either noticing a difference, or not being able to notice one because that's just how it's built for them.

How can you know it's definitely not placebo for someone else? Sounds a bit biased.

If you grow the same plants, same conditions and everything, literally from the same room, and harvest at different (enough) times, you'll get a different effect from it, it will have also a different taste and smell, and it will also look slightly different.
An extra 2 to 4 weeks of flower past the "ideal" peak THC concentration date will give you a very very different experience.

IME, it will not give any significant extra yield, and especially the yield that you get will absolutely not be worth the energy you spend to get it, and also itàs not worth delaying your next crop either.
Unless you specifically want that plant to have that type of effect and flavour.

So I am not surprised that growers favour a early harvest: it maximizes the weight they can get out of their space per year, and that they also spin it that their stupid high THC% is a desirable trait when it's absolutely not the case, at least not most of the time.
A later harvest will have a lower THC% but also a higher overall cannabinoid content.
CBD% for sure is up if you harvest later as THC gets slowly converted into CBD while the plant is alive.

This is all very interesting and i find no reason to doubt or discredit any of what you say about the cultivation process and cannabinoid profile. I just don't think these minor cannabinoids or even CBD really affect a weed high that much.

I think weed is very good at enabling cognitive euphoria events like the placebo effect and the best target is the drug itself especially since it's a plant and we continually learn more and more about its chemistry.
 
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home grown usually sucks imo cause the lights they grow in large grows are 1000's of watts, and i'm pretty sure that shit gets really hot even if you have a ventilated area, and also i'm pretty sure some of the stinkier fertilizers are better, not 100 percent sure about that, but lighting is the biggest thing from what i know. i don't think a lot of people want to use the stinkier fertilizers in their home. i bought some more expensive brand that was supposed to not stink too much. it was the same brand that sells "bud candy". but that stuff didn't help my buds at all... the fox farm with the levels made for weed on my outdoors was pretty good stuff though. that stuff stunk like you wouldn't put in your house. i think the sun even in my yard that didn't get full coverage with the sun all day was a lot better than any led or a 400 watt HPS even.

i've had indoor home grown from a few other people too, and it's just never that good cause no one uses the lighting that big budget grows use.

some people that don't like super strong weed may really enjoy growing at home under less intense lighting. the buds come out fine in terms of how they smoke.
 
In this case (and i'd argue in most cases) clearly placebo - there is no "crack weed" where THC mysteriously has a shorter and vastly inferior effect.

I'm open to nuances but that's not what's at play here i think. Besides, no other naturally occurring cannabinoid is established as a psychoactive.


How can you know it's definitely not placebo for someone else? Sounds a bit biased.



This is all very interesting and i find no reason to doubt or discredit any of what you say about the cultivation process and cannabinoid profile. I just don't think these minor cannabinoids or even CBD really affect a weed high that much.

I think weed is very good at enabling cognitive euphoria events like the placebo effect and the best target is the drug itself especially since it's a plant and we continually learn more and more about its chemistry.

THC will absolutely feel VERY different when consumed with different amounts of CBD.
I have experimented on this, as well as a few people I know extremely well.
Just smoke any high THC% weed one day, the next day have some 99% CBD crystals and a meth pipe ready, or a CBD only vape if you prefer.
Smoke that high THC% weed, and while you smoke it, or right after, vaporise a significant dose of CBD... dunno, 50mg?

You will notice different effects, just like me and my friends did, and it will not be subtle at all.

CBD has research showing that it reduces the intensity of the effects of THC.
 
as far as the term crack weed, there are a couple sativas i smoked that will give me a more stimulating high, but generally all highs are pretty similar for me.. it's kind of like i get a specific buzz or don't, with the exception of random sativa strains will hit a bit different. it's generally a pretty similar experience though.. i feel like lsd analogues like eth-lad compared to ald-52 or 1p are probably more dramatic feelings in terms of the body high and not the mental efffects. the strain differences are that subtle even when they are out of the ordinary strong for me. like my dispensary has this sativa "lemonz" and that's always a bit more punch, and might keep me up a little bit longer if i'm going to bed. it's super dense and a lot of red hairs and crystals compared to some of their other strains.... even some indicas are stimulating for me though, infact most hit in that direction ime.

i've always found the cbd in bud to not have enough to have any effects on me. i never tried pills or anything. i don't have much intest in cbd, but a lot of people claim it helps them.
 
as far as the term crack weed, there are a couple sativas i smoked that will give me a more stimulating high, but generally all highs are pretty similar for me.. it's kind of like i get a specific buzz or don't, with the exception of random sativa strains will hit a bit different. it's generally a pretty similar experience though.. i feel like lsd analogues like eth-lad compared to ald-52 or 1p are probably more dramatic feelings in terms of the body high and not the mental efffects. the strain differences are that subtle even when they are out of the ordinary strong for me. like my dispensary has this sativa "lemonz" and that's always a bit more punch, and might keep me up a little bit longer if i'm going to bed. it's super dense and a lot of red hairs and crystals compared to some of their other strains.... even some indicas are stimulating for me though, infact most hit in that direction ime.

i've always found the cbd in bud to not have enough to have any effects on me. i never tried pills or anything. i don't have much intest in cbd, but a lot of people claim it helps them.
Did you ever smoke traditional hash from places like Morocco, Lebanon, Afghanistan?
Effects are very different from weed.
 
CBD has research showing that it reduces the intensity of the effects of THC.
I cut back from smoking all day every day probably 12 years ago, and then got to the point that I could take a hit at home alone at noon and still get "too high" even tho I have nothing to worry about. Then I started getting stuff that was easy to find out the THC and CBD numbers, and even the higher % THC strains were fine to take a hit or two during the day as long as they weren't low in CBD %

So yeah, a more balanced ratio is definitely different (better for me) than a high THC low CBD strain while still getting me just as high, but in a more comfortable way
 
Sure but a rational user will simply adjust the dose not think there is some voodoo shit
Rational user? Im a drug addict; im hitting that thing till I can’t breathe or see straight


We have light cigarettes light beer; i dont see why light weed isn’t available.
 
How can you know it's definitely not placebo for someone else? Sounds a bit biased.



This is all very interesting and i find no reason to doubt or discredit any of what you say about the cultivation process and cannabinoid profile. I just don't think these minor cannabinoids or even CBD really affect a weed high that much.

I think weed is very good at enabling cognitive euphoria events like the placebo effect and the best target is the drug itself especially since it's a plant and we continually learn more and more about its chemistry.
Well, I guess I can't tell for someone else, but seeing as many people have freakouts as I have, I wouldn't think so. I was killing people with Super Silver Haze when I'd bring it around because they all smoke indica. It seems most people prefer it. I know this much: it's certainly not placebo for me.
 
I grow at home as a breeder but have done many large scale grows.

Your not wrong. Anytime a grow exceeds 10 lights, your in trouble. 10 is the max before quality goes to shit no matter what you use or how good you think you are at growing.

Canadian grown is all salt grows. It's bad for your health to begin with.

Youde likely puke if you seen what makes up your pre rolls, or even worse your vapes.

If you vape, please find a local who makes em at home with actual flower and no synthetic terps.
 
Did you ever smoke traditional hash from places like Morocco, Lebanon, Afghanistan?
Effects are very different from weed.
nah.. just some bubble hash that was like 60%.. gave me a bit more of a head high and hit harder... i was only around since early 2000's smoking. mostly only flower on the black market for me, probably from local grows or california as i'm american... some people starting smoking carts in my area after like 2010 illegally, but generally there wasn't any concentrates being sold amongst the crowds i was in until the dispensaries opened, definitely not anything imported from other countries like that.
 
nah.. just some bubble hash that was like 60%.. gave me a bit more of a head high and hit harder... i was only around since early 2000's smoking. mostly only flower on the black market for me, probably from local grows or california as i'm american... some people starting smoking carts in my area after like 2010 illegally, but generally there wasn't any concentrates being sold amongst the crowds i was in until the dispensaries opened, definitely not anything imported from other countries like that.
Yeah Bubble hash from a dispensary will just be weed like effects with higher potency by weight.
 
Yeah Bubble hash from a dispensary will just be weed like effects with higher potency by weight.
do you have any idea what makes the hashes from those random places you mentioned better?

i'm really not convinced that science knows everything about what's going on with the chemicals in weed myself.. i always talk about how the results from lab tests with thc don't really seem to have any relevance to my experience. i've also checked terps and the other cannabinoids. nothing seems to make sense why certain stuff gets me high other than good brands and good dealers usually seem to always have good stuff. my experience is kind of weird, but i really doubt i'm getting placebo.
 
do you have any idea what makes the hashes from those random places you mentioned better?

i'm really not convinced that science knows everything about what's going on with the chemicals in weed myself.. i always talk about how the results from lab tests with thc don't really seem to have any relevance to my experience. i've also checked terps and the other cannabinoids. nothing seems to make sense why certain stuff gets me high other than good brands and good dealers usually seem to always have good stuff. my experience is kind of weird, but i really doubt i'm getting placebo.

The plants are different strains and are harvested later in the flower stage compared to what growers do in Europe and North America.

THC% is not the only thing that matters in the high, CBD also plays a very important role but apparently there might be more cannabinoids that influence the effects of THC.

Also I'm not sure what the THC% test measures, I don't think it is the amount of THC by weight, I think it's the % of THC compared to total cannabinoid content.
Meaning a flower might test 15% THC and another 30%, and the one with 15% might still have more THC per weight anyway.
 
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