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Yesterday at around 12:30pm I sampled 0.25g dry of some newly acquired mushrooms, labeled "AV". They had been prepared by powdering and mixing, so I can hopefully use this experience as a reference for future dosing. I felt definite effects at a Shulgin level of around +1.5. I had noticeable enhancement of colors and texture and an increase in CEV activity (from my normal baseline). I also had a heightened tendency to laugh (even though I was alone) and some tactile alteration/enhancement.

I'm very pleased by these results. I suspect this was about 1/3 of the dose needed for a low level "full trip", but I'll probably be cautious and try only 0.5g next time. I may just be a mushroom lightweight, or maybe these are on the somewhat potent side. I can't complain because I have plenty and also have some of two other kinds to try.
 
iom said:
Yesterday at around 12:30pm I sampled 0.25g dry of some newly acquired mushrooms, labeled "AV". They had been prepared by powdering and mixing, so I can hopefully use this experience as a reference for future dosing. I felt definite effects at a Shulgin level of around +1.5. I had noticeable enhancement of colors and texture and an increase in CEV activity (from my normal baseline). I also had a heightened tendency to laugh (even though I was alone) and some tactile alteration/enhancement.

I'm very pleased by these results. I suspect this was about 1/3 of the dose needed for a low level "full trip", but I'll probably be cautious and try only 0.5g next time. I may just be a mushroom lightweight, or maybe these are on the somewhat potent side. I can't complain because I have plenty and also have some of two other kinds to try.
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Recent Hyphae Cup analyses have indicated mushrooms that would contain a full dose of psilocybin in less than 1g of dried fruit, we're entering an era of unprecedentedly potent mushrooms coming at unexpected times imo. One of the best things we can do for now, in my opinion, is to buy or grow as large of a single batch as possible, homogenize it into powder (then shake in a jar or tupperware), and perhaps then dilute into ethanol to make either "mushroom opium" or a tincture of psilocybin which can then be felt out in intervals of a milliliter. When I was recently dealing with Pan Cyans, it was the only reasonable way to interface with them.
 
Esperighanto said:
Recent Hyphae Cup analyses have indicated mushrooms that would contain a full dose of psilocybin in less than 1g of dried fruit, we're entering an era of unprecedentedly potent mushrooms coming at unexpected times imo. One of the best things we can do for now, in my opinion, is to buy or grow as large of a single batch as possible, homogenize it into powder (then shake in a jar or tupperware), and perhaps then dilute into ethanol to make either "mushroom opium" or a tincture of psilocybin which can then be felt out in intervals of a milliliter. When I was recently dealing with Pan Cyans, it was the only reasonable way to interface with them.
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Even before these hyper potent strains I have had problems with dosing mushrooms. When my friend and I grew our own, we found them to be terribly inconsistent, some were super potent and some were pretty normal. Especially when we ate them wet they seemed harder to gague. I think some mushrooms end up getting puffed up with water more than others and drying them out normalizes them to some extent. Anyways, we ended up drying and grinding them and then compressing them to get the air out for storage. By working with dry powder we were able to get more consistency (but harder to munch!)

How stable is psilocybin in a tincture made from say standard vodka?
 
Esperighanto said:
Recent Hyphae Cup analyses have indicated mushrooms that would contain a full dose of psilocybin in less than 1g of dried fruit, we're entering an era of unprecedentedly potent mushrooms coming at unexpected times imo. One of the best things we can do for now, in my opinion, is to buy or grow as large of a single batch as possible, homogenize it into powder (then shake in a jar or tupperware), and perhaps then dilute into ethanol to make either "mushroom opium" or a tincture of psilocybin which can then be felt out in intervals of a milliliter. When I was recently dealing with Pan Cyans, it was the only reasonable way to interface with them.
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I've been taking mushrooms since 2000, and for some reason all but one batch of mushrooms I've taken were super potent. The only "weak" one was my first, and I took like 3.2g worth, which was still pretty heavy for me. Since then, I've never taken more than 1.5g of any shrooms, and that dose pretty much took me through ego breakdown followed by a couple of hours of emotional catharsis. I also had a trip that was just as strong if not more so off of only 0.175g. It was the only time I ever ate any "EQ" without powdering and homogenizing first. Oops! If I had to guess, these "AV" are only slightly less potent if not the same as the old "EQ" I had around for so long back in the day, for which 0.5g was enough for a decent trip. I'll probably have a better idea after Wednesday when my partner and I plan to try 0.5g before walking to see some fireworks.

The funny thing is that I'm pretty sure these "AV" will prove to be less potent than the other two kinds I have to sample. One of these aren't merely stained blue. They are almost black, like spilled ink. They are also very tiny, not really aborts but immature fruits. Comparing cross-cuts, most of the blue color on the AVs comes from the outer skin, but most of these "PM" are fucking black all the way through.

I'm a huge fan of powdering and mixing to reduce dosing uncertainty. I also find the powder to be much easier to consume than whole dried mushrooms. I have a mechanical balance from a headshop, accurate to 10mg, and I just spoon it out of a jar, throw it into a drinking glass, add water, and drink it down. I do sometimes need to rinse a couple of times to get all the powder unstuck from the glass, but it generally works very well. The taste is surprisingly mild, and effects start almost immediately. If circumstances call for more discrete dosing, I can just put it into capsules, which are easy to swallow and are visually indistinguishable from a wide variety of innocuous things.
 
It's Wednesday, and the lady and I ate 0.5g of these "AV" shrooms. This was enough for a light trip, a +2.5 in which it was comfortable to submit to full +3 level effects from time to time. It was also not so much that we couldn't navigate our neighborhood, and as planned at around T+2:45, we left the house and walked to see a fireworks show. We'd never been to this show nor to the rugby stadium that hosted it.

The scene was quite fantastic. People were all over the field, throwing balls around, playing with light toys including some crazy glowing pinwheel things that could induce minutes of squealing and laughter in a toddler. Everyone seemed to be in a jubilant mood, but I mostly stared off at the fading light of the sunset against the silhouette of the mountains. It was very hot, and I was very noticeably sweating, but the breezes were invigorating. I took off my shoes and socks and rested my feet in the grass which was exceedingly pleasant. Occasionally some kids would run right past us, which was always a bit surprising. Or someone would shoot off an illegal firework with a loud bang, and we'd watch the police drone fly over to try to find them.

The bright stadium lights were switched off a few at a time, and then the show kicked off. It was excellent---very tightly choreographed, and we could pretty much see all the rockets as they were launched. The colors were absolutely stunning. I continue to be impressed by the innovation (presumably all done by the Chinese) that leads to new styles and colors of fireworks.

Overall, this was a solid dose and probably as high as I would go in a public setting unless it was "tripper friendly" or whatever. Even then, I expected based on my history that anything higher will lead to a more internal and anti-social trip. My guess is that 0.75g will probably be enough to get significant visuals, and that's probably where I'll aim next if I'm planning to stay home. So far, these seem very comparable in potency to the old "EQ" I used to eat. My partner tripped at least as hard as I tonight, so I'm not inclined to attribute my results to personal hypersensitivity.
 
It was super nice. I had taken 1cp-Al-LAD only a few times at low doses before, was my first time trying to go for a full trip. Gotta say it's kinda weak haha, or the tabs are underdosed. I remember taking 300 Al-LAD and having a reality breaking trip, although I keep wondering if maybe that one time I took some hotspotted tabs. This trip was very manageable but during the peak it was still on the stronger side. Nothing too profound, as with AL-LAD, but very fun and invigorating. I spent the time listening to music and cycling of a beautiful bike road along a river. Bathed in cold water and did some bird watching. Had an encounter with a weasel. During the peak I put on a playlist I made for this and each song took me on a mini inner journey. All in all a super nice, fun trip. Yesterday I was feeling kind of a manic afterglow, though I would be exhausted but I kept moving around doing stuff non stop, had a very productive sunday. Now it's monday and I feel like I'm paying the price haha.

Have a nice week everyone !
 
perpetualdawn said:
How stable is psilocybin in a tincture made from say standard vodka
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I don't think that would be very stable. 4-substituted tryptamines don't tend to do well when they're exposed to H2O. I imagine dried, crushed into a powder, blended, put in an airtight container, and frozen would be ideal for consistent batch dosing. Just be careful to let it reach room temp before opening so you don't pull humidity out of the air.
 
Yeah, it was cute and surprising! I was riding my bike when I saw its silhouette in the shade of a tree. It just froze and stood completely still as I approached, so for a brief moment, I wasn’t sure if what I was seeing was real or just my mind playing tricks on me. But as I got closer and clearly saw it was a weasel, the little guy suddenly run into the bushes to hide. I stopped and watched it disappear for a moment before it vanished completely haha.


I think my most impressive psychedelic wildlife encounter happened a few years ago, when I was living in the US for work. I stayed for a while in a small college town in the middle of nowhere. When summer came, the town emptied out, and you would often see deer around the surrounding woods.


One evening I had taken 18 mg of 2C-E and was tripping super hard. As I was coming down from the peak, I went for a bike ride around sunset. I was going on a path that went through the trees when suddenly, a giant male deer with big ass antlers came out of the woods right next to me. It started running alongside me, right by my side, for about 20 or 30 seconds. Then it picked up speed, crossed the path ahead of me, and disappeared back into the trees.

I was past the peak at that point, but I was still tripping fairly hard, so what happened shook me immensely lol. I remember I had to stop and get off my bike, and I just sat on the side of the route just trying to process it haha. The deer really looked like some kind of mythological creature to my tripping mind, so majestic. It didn't help that I lived most of my life in a very big city, where really running into animals like that is not common at all lol. It felt really surreal.
 
I took 1.25 mg of 2C-P today, my first experience with a new psychedelic drug in over 15 years. I started with 0.25 mg to be safe, and after 2.5 hours I took an additional 1 mg. As expected, the come-up was very long and slow, and in fact, I didn't really feel anything until T+2:00 after the 1 mg dose. Even considering the dose, the come-up seemed very smooth. I even ate a large meal at around T+3:00. Smoking cannabis amplified the trippiness a lot and brought out some CEVs but nothing too special. I don't feel like it peaked until almost T+6:00 after the 1 mg, and it's been fading gradually since T+9:00 or so. I'm at T+12:30 now, and I think there's still something there. Though, I feel like I am going to sleep very well when I go to bed soon.

My overall impression at this dose was excellent. It was immersive and dreamy but also very lucid. It felt very clean and smooth with no significant body load or other discomfort. I experienced a substantial mood lift, emotional opening, and waves of euphoria, yet these euphoric moments felt more grounded and less forced than the kind provided by things like 2C-B and 2C-T-2. It was more like 2C-E in this regard but nowhere near as heavy or serious. The clear headspace reminded me some of 2C-I but without the stimulation. I've also seen 2C-P compared to mescaline and 2C-D, but I don't think it's much like those either. It certainly doesn't have the analytical mental edge of 2C-D, and mescaline feels pretty distinct from all the 2C-X. I had the thought today that 2C-P might be the 2C-X with the best balance of effects---if only it didn't take so long to come on and wear off.

Of course it's hard to draw distinctions from only a +1 experience and the qualities may change at higher doses. We'll see how I feel after I work my way up to a full dose, but so far I really like what I got out of this and am eagerly looking forward to further exploration. I think it has the potential to become a new favorite.
 
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perpetualdawn said:
By working with dry powder we were able to get more consistency (but harder to munch!)

How stable is psilocybin in a tincture made from say standard vodka?
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Dry powder does go well into peanut butter or honey, but the Psilocybin chef cookbook is worth its weight in gold here imo. As far as vodka tincture goes, even 95 or 99% pure ethanol hasn't kept mushrooms active for more than 6-8 weeks in my experience. If you really want to compact the fuck out of mushrooms though, powderize them and put them in everclear, then evap that down to "mushroom opium" and then dehydrate it, powderize it and put that in gel caps. It's way more compact than powderized fruiting bodies.
iom said:
are almost black, like spilled ink.
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This is likely just spores that dropped, not an indication of high or low tryptamine content, though I don't doubt the potency of these whatsoever.

Recent talk on the presence of 2C-I, 2C-EF, 2C-P, 2C-G-5, and 2C-TFM have all been giving me a ton of hope that 2C's in general (and hopefully also DOx's, 25X-NBXX's, 4C's, BMx's, BOx's, etc) will begin to propagate more both in quantity and diversity. Things like 2C-P are easily strong enough to fit on blotter too which is convenient for safe storage and shipping. As much as I adore 2C-B, exploring the remaining elements of the 2,4,5-trisubstituted phenethylamines will be greatly rewarding I'm sure.

Last night I insufflated some allylescaline, 7-OH and noopept in one heinous line and think it did not absorb properly or something because very little occurred other than extreme pain. The recent news is imminent criminalization of 7-OH-Mitragynine has also had me working on a write-up for people to be able to convert mit into it, and discretely store and use it.

Tomorrow for Lughnasadh I'm setting up a little celebratory ritual, haven't been celebrating the wheel of the year for too damn long, I think some pan cyans will do just right. Anyone else here celebrate anything on the wheel of the year?
 
Esperighanto said:
If you really want to compact the fuck out of mushrooms though, powderize them and put them in everclear, then evap that down to "mushroom opium" and then dehydrate it, powderize it and put that in gel caps. It's way more compact than powderized fruiting bodies.
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After you put them in everclear do you strain off the crud before evaporating?
 
Esperighanto said:
Recent talk on the presence of 2C-I, 2C-EF, 2C-P, 2C-G-5, and 2C-TFM have all been giving me a ton of hope that 2C's in general (and hopefully also DOx's, 25X-NBXX's, 4C's, BMx's, BOx's, etc) will begin to propagate more both in quantity and diversity.
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One can certainly hope! I'm not sure I'll ever obtain anything off of grey/black markets in the future, except maybe LSD, but I'd certainly love to be able to try 2C-EF and 2C-TFM. Really, I've enjoyed all the 2C-X I've tried: 2C-C, 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-4, 2C-D, 2C-E, and 2C-P (yay!). My experiments with substituted tryptamines, although less extensive, have been less reliably positive.

Esperighanto said:
Things like 2C-P are easily strong enough to fit on blotter too which is convenient for safe storage and shipping. As much as I adore 2C-B, exploring the remaining elements of the 2,4,5-trisubstituted phenethylamines will be greatly rewarding I'm sure.
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Maybe? I mean a full dose is more like 5+ mg, and it has a very steep and unforgiving dose response curve. So I think one would want more precise control over dosages than blotter offers, unless they are very evenly distributed. And yeah, 2C-B is really great, but many other 2C-X are just as good if not better.

Esperighanto said:
Tomorrow for Lughnasadh I'm setting up a little celebratory ritual, haven't been celebrating the wheel of the year for too damn long, I think some pan cyans will do just right. Anyone else here celebrate anything on the wheel of the year?
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I have other, personal reasons for celebrating this day. However, if I trip it will probably be on Saturday. I don't know though. Physically speaking, I've felt like total crap all week with migraine-related jaw/teeth pains (along with brain fog and transient dysphoria), a bad skin flare, and what felt like food poisoning a couple days ago. The lady suggested we do 2C-E because she hasn't tried it since the old days, but that may be too heavy for me right now. I'm hoping this migraine is gone tomorrow.

Enjoy your trip!
 
Esperighanto said:
The recent news is imminent criminalization of 7-OH-Mitragynine
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At the state level or federal? They almost banned it in my state this year but the legislation slipped through as far as I know. But I have been thinking about getting 7-OH since I do love kratom and I’d like to add a little something to my opiate use from time to time, and I get drug tested randomly for work. Local shops charge obscene prices for 7-OH pills so I haven’t tried any as of yet. My kratom supplier doesn’t sell concentrates either.



I am going to take a decently large dose of Psilacetin tonight I think and drink a lot of liquor. It was a long week at work, I’m looking forward to the drink.
 
perpetualdawn said:
After you put them in everclear do you strain off the crud before evaporating?
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No it kind of dissolves in, it becomes a wicked dark blue, mostly black sticky goop that lasts about eight weeks without dehydration. I'd occasionally eat a chunk and it would hit me like a goddamn train.
iom said:
Enjoy your trip!
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Thank you!
Cream Gravy? said:
At the state level or federal?
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Federal tragically, I fear that the criminalization will lead to a spike in overdose deaths.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
Do you have any links for this? It’s the first I’m hearing. I hope that kratom itself will be left be or else I’m not sure what I’ll do :(
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The FDA asked for it to be schedule 1, I'm on mobile RN so grabbing links is a pain in the ass but I've seen it hit a handful of major news outlets. Kratom leaf should be left untouched by this, three AKA is almost certainly involved in keeping leaf safe imo.
 
Anyone able to chime in on an appropriate first time dosage for smoked DMT? Person with moderate experience with mushrooms.

Tihkal recommends 60-100 mg which sounds excessive. I have only used it a handful of times myself around 30-40 mg range.
 
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