Shinji Ikari
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I heard Canada has a solid tryptamine market maybe you should move to Canada.
Tryptamines Has anyone seen any real 4-aco-dmt?
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Bitchniggaz
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Tryptamine refugee is a reason good as any!
The US is better tho - white 4-aco-dmt for £103 a gram. In Canada its more like £140
I've tried it in the past - there's a lot of bunk spore syringes in the UK. I need kilos to keep me going - not got the patience or time to make my own grow setup.
cuttingedgeshamenism
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that was so wickedly cool about this ?!! ive never save my stash long enough for that lmao
Idk looks spooky to me
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im new here what we not aloowed to scource?
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I don’t think 4aco-dmt being grey means anything. I have several batches and only one is white. The others are tan, grey and one slightly purple. All are legit, from when it was legal and available everywhere. Tryptamines seem to change color as they age, but the potency seems, for the most part, unchanged. However, I’ve not had any turn black, if that vial is 4aco and not spores…
Definitely cannot source or talk directly about synthesis on BL, there are other forums for that which are not centered around harm reduction necessarily, like Bluelight is.
I've had 4-substituted tryptamines of many varieties range from gray to tan to brownish/reddish. Only in liquid have I seen them dark and lose potency, they store well dry but not in solution.
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I have, from 2010-2016 I had an account with company in Canada. It was usually white, but one batch was tannish(both were amazing).. researched many gs
and is one of my favorite research projects ever with my wife at the time participating. There were always at least 8-9 different tryptamines available and we researched couple dozen over the years..... Wow .. talk about taste the rainbow. I am forever grateful for that period of time. The dude bought *redacted(another clearweb site I won't mention bc it probably breaks rules sorry). I still know and talk to the guy but I have been retired for some time. So yes. Usually white, sometimes translucent tan beige ish xtal. I rate it in the top 3 of all everything 
it and 5-meo-mipt (Moxy) at the same time was our go to.
and is one of my favorite research projects ever with my wife at the time participating. There were always at least 8-9 different tryptamines available and we researched couple dozen over the years..... Wow .. talk about taste the rainbow. I am forever grateful for that period of time. The dude bought *redacted(another clearweb site I won't mention bc it probably breaks rules sorry). I still know and talk to the guy but I have been retired for some time. So yes. Usually white, sometimes translucent tan beige ish xtal. I rate it in the top 3 of all everything it and 5-meo-mipt (Moxy) at the same time was our go to.You in the US? What dose are you taking it? At low doses you probably wouldnt notice much difference in pure 4-aco and shit 4-aco. When you start pushing the dose is when you notice the massive, massive difference in the white and the grey shit. White 4-aco is an entirely different drug at high doses to the grey shit.
White 4-aco I could take 150mg every couple of hours all day long and never stop dancing.
I have, from 2010-2016 I had an account with company in Canada. It was usually white, but one batch was tannish(both were amazing).. researched many gs
Yeah I've had tan too - that was good stuff. It seems like the US and Canada have a different source to Europe.
4-aco - dmt is the only drug that takes me to the deepest core of who I am - after I hadnt taken it for a year or two I remember a voice inside saying "How are you, Ive missed you so much" and I was laughing and replying "Im fine, Im fine". No other psychedelic takes me to that place inside - its like the deepest part of me. And it also taught me that the voice inside definately isnt God or fucking aliens - its just me.
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General alcazar
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Batches I have are from Canada, US and Europe. I’ve never pushed the dose that high (150mg) so can’t comment on the difference but it is very strong for me at 30 mg. The again, don’t trip very often these days. Seems to me the if it takes 150mg for good effect, it must be cut …
Nah, the higher the dose the better it gets - you realise the true nature of the drug. I never found a dose of 4-aco that was too strong for me - I could just scoop a pile up of 150-200mg and eat it and carry on dancing. Then do the same 2 hours later.
I've NEVER had a bad time on real white/tan 4- aco regardless of dose. The only bad time Ive had is with the nausea from the grey shit.
One thing that's worth saying - theres this theory "4-aco is just a prodrug to DMT or its a prodrug to psilocin" - that is absolute fucking bollocks.
Ive eaten NN-DMT hundreds of times and I was taking mushrooms every weekend for about 10 years (when they banned mushrooms in 2007, I bought 10 kilograms)
Genuine white/tan 4-aco takes me to a place DMT or mushrooms never did. 4-aco at high doses 100mg and over is HANDS DOWN the greatest psychedelic I've ever taken. I was fucking dancing for hours on it and its also the only psychedelic that takes you directly to the deepest part of your consciousness. And my conclusion after going to that place a hundred times? There's no fucking aliens, theres no god - its just you.
Ive eaten NN-DMT hundreds of times and I was taking mushrooms every weekend for about 10 years (when they banned mushrooms in 2007, I bought 10 kilograms)
Genuine white/tan 4-aco takes me to a place DMT or mushrooms never did. 4-aco at high doses 100mg and over is HANDS DOWN the greatest psychedelic I've ever taken. I was fucking dancing for hours on it and its also the only psychedelic that takes you directly to the deepest part of your consciousness. And my conclusion after going to that place a hundred times? There's no fucking aliens, theres no god - its just you.
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I've had a nice white batch for years that's slowly turned tan over time. All the others that I've tried have always been a weird darkish color too but they ALL slapped.
I took 21 mg of 4-HO-MET and it was too much cardiac stress, the high just kept coming up for like 3 hours until I finally took some Etizolam and then it was like I never even took anything which was very disappointing.
I had a similar experience with 4-HO-MIPT. Shit SMACKED at 17 mg. I was twisted for the whole day, when I went to smoke some weed, it kicked me into another universe of fucked up, I had to go walk it off for a bit. Used the comedown as an excuse to drink an 8 pack of triple IPA and take 5 mg of Tiz over the following hours. They were exhausting trips but fun.
Even at 5 mg I get decent visual distortions from 4-ACO-DMT. I was super into trying to get all of the 4-HO and 4-ACO for comparisons but once you've had a few show stopper trips, I think your fucks get all used up and you're pretty happy with the collection. Mine's lasted for about 5 years and it's not a massive collection either, those trips just feel like "enough" at some point
I took 21 mg of 4-HO-MET and it was too much cardiac stress, the high just kept coming up for like 3 hours until I finally took some Etizolam and then it was like I never even took anything which was very disappointing.
I had a similar experience with 4-HO-MIPT. Shit SMACKED at 17 mg. I was twisted for the whole day, when I went to smoke some weed, it kicked me into another universe of fucked up, I had to go walk it off for a bit. Used the comedown as an excuse to drink an 8 pack of triple IPA and take 5 mg of Tiz over the following hours. They were exhausting trips but fun.
Even at 5 mg I get decent visual distortions from 4-ACO-DMT. I was super into trying to get all of the 4-HO and 4-ACO for comparisons but once you've had a few show stopper trips, I think your fucks get all used up and you're pretty happy with the collection. Mine's lasted for about 5 years and it's not a massive collection either, those trips just feel like "enough" at some point
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Did you ever take your orally administered DMT with any harmalas or an MAIO inhibitor? It's rapidly metabolized and rendered inactive without that.
Sounds like your tolerance is pretty wild though! I'd be curious to know how you react to a legit 10 strip. I don't trust many of the drugs out there these days, only ever gotten pure crystal LSD once, 10 mg from Lysergeri when they were still around. A half a dose (50mcg) was so intense, that lead me to understand that pretty much all blotters and pills are likely underdosed as shit. Pure powders are the only way to go.
Wat better on the wallet too
I used to take it with moclobemide - but the nausea was always a motherfucker. I must have tried every way of decreasing the nausea you can think of - I heard that the phosphate was less nauseating so I used to drop it in a glass of coca-cola (supposedly that turns DMT freebase into DMT phosphate) but after I ate the DMT within 20 minutes I would always have severe nausea. I remember throwing up once and seeing multicoloured trails in the vomit! I think there is something in your stomach that utterly rebels at DMT - dunno if its serotonin receptors in your gut being irritated or what - but jesus it makes you sick.
My tolerance for mushrooms had always been pretty high - I could take mushrooms in pretty much any dose and never feel anything but great. LSD is the complete opposite - if I take more LSD than I'm used to I find it really physically uncomfortable. I'd be terrified to take a 10 strip!
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Quite interesting, you seem like you'd be a great candidate for a case study. Wouldn't that be sweet, medically administered pharma grade psychs with brain scans haha