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[Fire&Water]

Did she throw over her right arm as a barricade?

 

[Jnowhere]

Did she throw over her right arm as a barricade?

No, my mom was hospitalized soon after we all got in the car. I am not exactly sure where we were going but it ended up being the Hospital.

[True Story]

 

[LucidSDreamr]

@Jnowhere Mary Jane doesn't need to be alter or processed to work, so I personally don't see it as a drug.

Weed is absolutely a drug. It is one of the most mind altering drugs there is. If I had to take a calculus test I’d rather be on heroin or amphetamine vs weed because weed is so mind altering compared to opioids or amphetamines.

 

[Jnowhere]

Yea I need a coffee first thing in the morning.

Oh my gosh, my dad was addicted to nasal spray too. One time he came home when I was a kid and he couldn’t find it and flipped out on me. He was literally tearing the house apart until he found it … it was pretty crazy.

And aw it wasn’t really your fault what happened when you were 2, you were basically just a baby

Also it’s good to see you. I was just thinking about you the other day, I hadn’t seen you around in a little bit. I was thinking ‘I hope he’s doing good and eating tater tots’ lol
Big hugs

Before she died I confronted her about her addiction. You could get the generic version of long lasting nasal spray( fake afrin or something) I told her "Mom your up 2 bottles a week, your spending $2.12 a week on your addiction, you need help" She was not amused. Then she blamed me( which is true) then brought up her getting fired from a job.
This couple, hired my mom to babysit there two year old and do cleaning and stuff. They were demanding but paid well. I was also 2 years old and I had the terrible 2's in hyper drive. Let's just say I was a biter. I kept biting that nice half Asian kid every chance I got. I guess Asian food does leave you hungry after a half hour. Then also 2 years old I shoplifted. My mom returned it, she was scared that she would be blamed if I was caught and returned it quietly.
We were out of the store. We pulled off our first and only heist and she returned it? My Mom was like you could have got me arrested. I said no, you could have got yourself arrested returning it. It was something kinda small.

 

[Dreamflyer]

Now that I've been without my antidepressants (Remeron & Lexapro) and anxiety meds (Lorazepam) for months now thanks to my insurance providers, I've found that I'm way stronger than I gave myself credit for.

I'm still drinking 3-6 beers a day and dabbling with a bit of 7-OH, but otherwise I'm doing fairly well.

Please send some prayers/good vibes my way, and I'll do the same for you.

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Now that I've been without my antidepressants (Remeron & Lexapro) and anxiety meds (Lorazepam) for months now thanks to my insurance providers, I've found that I'm way stronger than I gave myself credit for.

I'm still drinking 3-6 beers a day and dabbling with a bit of 7-OH, but otherwise I'm doing fairly well.

Please send some prayers/good vibes my way, and I'll do the same for you.

Always good prayers for you @Dreamflyer. Just be careful with the 7oh … I went a little crazy with it and was a pretty brutal withdrawal.

Anyways, it’s always good to see you
Sending you love, hope & support

 

[paltatomate]

Now that I've been without my antidepressants (Remeron & Lexapro) and anxiety meds (Lorazepam) for months now thanks to my insurance providers, I've found that I'm way stronger than I gave myself credit for.

I'm still drinking 3-6 beers a day and dabbling with a bit of 7-OH, but otherwise I'm doing fairly well.

Please send some prayers/good vibes my way, and I'll do the same for you.

I don't do prayers, but I will gather all the good vibes I can and send them your way.

Good to read that you're doing better than you imagined. Keep that up!
And stay strong!

 

[Dreamflyer]

Always good prayers for you @Dreamflyer. Just be careful with the 7oh … I went a little crazy with it and was a pretty brutal withdrawal.

Anyways, it’s always good to see you
Sending you love, hope & support

Yeah, I definitely need to be careful with the 7-OH, having been addicted to opioids from 2006 to 2017. I only take 20-40mg a day, but I'm always tempted to do more.

How much were you doing, and what were the withdrawals like (symptoms & timeline)? I'm running out of money, so I know it needs to come to an end soon.

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Yeah, I definitely need to be careful with the 7-OH, having been addicted to opioids from 2006 to 2017. I only take 20-40mg a day, but I'm always tempted to do more.

How much were you doing, and what were the withdrawals like (symptoms & timeline)? I'm running out of money, so I know it needs to come to an end soon.

I started off with the amounts you were taking. Then months later I started going to different vendors online that had tablets with much higher percentage of milligrams for cheaper, with better deals. I also started getting into the powders and mixing it with mit pseudoindoxyl. So at first started getting 18, 20, and 30 mg tablets and would take at least 10 a day … then started going higher. Then I started getting powder and even trying 40 and 50 mg tablets. I went on a couple 7oh benders and there were some days that I actually went up to like 500 mg (which I understand is pretty insane considering how small I am). I’ve withdrawn from it a number of times but each time got worse but … which could be because I kept upping my doses. I spent waay too much money on it and now going to have to pay off my credits cards.

Btw just because I went through this doesn’t mean you will …. but I have seen a bunch of others eventually go down the same road as I did. I’m not really into Reddit ‘that’ much but go on it sometimes. I actually used to go on this one subreddit to look up vendors, but then I started going on this other subreddit called r/quitting7oh. R/quitting7oh is a support group for people quitting 7oh and has all kinds of posts of different peoples stories/journeys with it and quitting. It shows what the symptoms are for different people, and advice on quitting, ect. If you want to check it out, it might explain it better than me.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, and if you want me to explain what my actual symptoms were I will. But some of them were sweating, alternating feeling hot and cold, nausea, restless legs, insomnia, anxiety, depression, running nose, couldn’t eat, ect. I was even taking tramadol, clonazepam and Xanax and could still feel it.

Once again tho’ don’t let me scare you, I understand my story and the way I went with it is pretty extreme. But I feel like I wouldn’t be a good friend if I didn’t tell you. It can definitely get its hooks in you (and especially those of us that are prone to addiction) and like I said, I’ve definitely talked to others who said the same.

Anyways, now that I’m done explaining (and hopefully not scaring the shit out of you)… just be careful and know I’m always rooting for you. I know you’re really strong. I mean just stopping benzos and antidepressants is not for the faint of heart.

Hope you’re doing well as I’m writing this
Big hugs

 

[Dreamflyer]

I started off with the amounts you were taking. Then months later I started going to different vendors online that had tablets with much higher percentage of milligrams for cheaper, with better deals. I also started getting into the powders and mixing it with mit pseudoindoxyl. So at first started getting 18, 20, and 30 mg tablets and would take at least 10 a day … then started going higher. Then I started getting powder and even trying 40 and 50 mg tablets. I went on a couple 7oh benders and there were some days that I actually went up to like 500 mg (which I understand is pretty insane considering how small I am). I’ve withdrawn from it a number of times but each time got worse but … which could be because I kept upping my doses. I spent waay too much money on it and now going to have to pay off my credits cards.

Btw just because I went through this doesn’t mean you will …. but I have seen a bunch of others eventually go down the same road as I did. I’m not really into Reddit ‘that’ much but go on it sometimes. I actually used to go on this one subreddit to look up vendors, but then I started going on this other subreddit called r/quitting7oh. R/quitting7oh is a support group for people quitting 7oh and has all kinds of posts of different peoples stories/journeys with it and quitting. It shows what the symptoms are for different people, and advice on quitting, ect. If you want to check it out, it might explain it better than me.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, and if you want me to explain what my actual symptoms were I will. But some of them were sweating, alternating feeling hot and cold, nausea, restless legs, insomnia, anxiety, depression, running nose, couldn’t eat, ect. I was even taking tramadol, clonazepam and Xanax and could still feel it.

Once again tho’ don’t let me scare you, I understand my story and the way I went with it is pretty extreme. But I feel like I wouldn’t be a good friend if I didn’t tell you. It can definitely get its hooks in you (and especially those of us that are prone to addiction) and like I said, I’ve definitely talked to others who said the same.

Anyways, now that I’m done explaining (and hopefully not scaring the shit out of you)… just be careful and know I’m always rooting for you. I know you’re really strong. I mean just stopping benzos and antidepressants is not for the faint of heart.

Hope you’re doing well as I’m writing this
Big hugs

Hey Angel, thank you SO much for taking the time to reply. 500mg? Wow! Okay, then I probably shouldn't worry too much about quitting from 40mg a day. I'm actually planning to taper down to 30, 20 and 10 over the next week.

Mucho Hugs!!!

 

[chris_p]

Do you think drugs have changed you as a person personality wise? Personally, I do not associate with my younger self whatsoever. Almost feels like two different people.

 

[Ds]

Wow, so long story short. The folks at the program finally came and got my drunk roommate and I guess they took him to detox or something.
So I'm currently on a bus headed home!!! I'm not there at that program anymore!!! Hooray!!!
I'm super excited that I am coming home, like hell yeah!
The funny thing is that while I was packing my belongings and was packed up, the drunk roomate showed up to get his stuff, and he was pretty drunk still. & Well most of his shit was already packed and sadly had been pilfered through:/. So he just got it together and went out to wait for an uber on the corner. He said that he was going to Florida, but if he were coming via bus then we would have been on the same bus.
Also, the kicker is that the dude that I've been riding next to on the bus is pretty drunk, and reeks of liquor so I just can't seem to get away from alcohol.
Luckily I don't have any cravings for it right now. Could be my will power of having to deal with it fucking first hand for the last several days man.

Well, hopefully things work out where I'm going. It's an oxford house, and i hear that you can take suboxone there and other prescription medications. So hope there aren't any fucking surprises.

Anyways, I'm just super glad to be on a bus headed home!

 

[paltatomate]

So I'm currently on a bus headed home!!! I'm not there at that program anymore!!! Hooray!!!

Yay! Finally.
I'm so happy for you.

 

[Dreamflyer]

Got by today on just 2 cans of beer and 20mg of 7oh. Tomorrow I jam with my music buddies and my shortness of breath has been bad lately (due to a-fib), so my anxiety is through the roof but I'm okay.

Took a 3-hour power walk this afternoon! Now I just need to start lifting weights again. I'm actually in pretty good shape for a 53 year-old couch potato (5'9", 175 lbs.). I can still carry 4 heavy bags of groceries up the stairs with one arm.

 

[Ds]

Yeah, I definitely need to be careful with the 7-OH, having been addicted to opioids from 2006 to 2017. I only take 20-40mg a day, but I'm always tempted to do more.

How much were you doing, and what were the withdrawals like (symptoms & timeline)? I'm running out of money, so I know it needs to come to an end soon.

Have you ever tried taking Suboxone? Not sure how it works with 7-oh but I'd assume that you would detox the same way while on Suboxone.
I guess looking at it like a harm reduction standpoint it might help you taper atleast, it you can get comfortable on subs, the film and just slowly work a taper maintenance. Maybe it won't be as severe as you might think?

 

[Jnowhere]

Wow, so long story short. The folks at the program finally came and got my drunk roommate and I guess they took him to detox or something.
So I'm currently on a bus headed home!!! I'm not there at that program anymore!!! Hooray!!!
I'm super excited that I am coming home, like hell yeah!
The funny thing is that while I was packing my belongings and was packed up, the drunk roomate showed up to get his stuff, and he was pretty drunk still. & Well most of his shit was already packed and sadly had been pilfered through:/. So he just got it together and went out to wait for an uber on the corner. He said that he was going to Florida, but if he were coming via bus then we would have been on the same bus.
Also, the kicker is that the dude that I've been riding next to on the bus is pretty drunk, and reeks of liquor so I just can't seem to get away from alcohol.
Luckily I don't have any cravings for it right now. Could be my will power of having to deal with it fucking first hand for the last several days man.

Well, hopefully things work out where I'm going. It's an oxford house, and i hear that you can take suboxone there and other prescription medications. So hope there aren't any fucking surprises.

Anyways, I'm just super glad to be on a bus headed home!

Good luck, and hopefully all will go well for you.

 

[helpingout]

Started a new job. Staying clear for the time being. Valentine’s Day. Thinking about my ex girlfriend a little more than I’m comfortable with. Kinda putting me in a bad mood. I think I might want to get high but it’s just not an option right now and I don’t think it can ever be an option again. My health matters to me and it seems like the last two times I used I overdosed. Bodies quitting on me. Too fat. Too lazy to work out. Too stupid to start working out. I keep trying to do this, to make a life for myself, I just think I’m. I don’t even have words for what I am. I don’t know what I am. Somehow I got off heroin. Maybe I have willpower. But my willpower swings both ways and sometimes I am insistent on getting g high. I know it won’t benefit me. I know it’s not right for me. I know that I’m happier without it. But it calls to me. God forbid there was actual heroin about.

 

[helpingout]

Have you ever tried taking Suboxone? Not sure how it works with 7-oh but I'd assume that you would detox the same way while on Suboxone.
I guess looking at it like a harm reduction standpoint it might help you taper atleast, it you can get comfortable on subs, the film and just slowly work a taper maintenance. Maybe it won't be as severe as you might think?

FYI 7oh has a higher affinity than buprenorphine and you can take both while using one or the other. It’s not a viable recovery path for someone quitting 7oh because it has no blocking effect

 

[Dreamflyer]

Have you ever tried taking Suboxone? Not sure how it works with 7-oh but I'd assume that you would detox the same way while on Suboxone.
I guess looking at it like a harm reduction standpoint it might help you taper atleast, it you can get comfortable on subs, the film and just slowly work a taper maintenance. Maybe it won't be as severe as you might think?

Ugh, no. I tried Subs twice years ago (8mg, I think) with nothing else in my system and it made me SO sick, like an instant hangover! That stuff just doesn't agree with me for some reason.

I'll be fine coming off of 20mg 7oh. I ordered one more small batch just for backup and it should be here by Tuesday, but hopefully I won't need it. I'll try to keep it for things like dental work (I need a few crowns and I'm dreading it).

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

Do you think drugs have changed you as a person personality wise? Personally, I do not associate with my younger self whatsoever. Almost feels like two different people.

I have to think more about it, I definitely started using at a very young age though. But I quit drinking 7 years ago, and I’ve started to feel a bit different. I was pretty out of control when I was drinking and doing coke. The more years I’m away from it, the more I realize how crazy and deep in I was … and also just some things I did around those times have really hit me. I hope that made any sense lol
Big hug