The Long-Term Comedown thread does not sound like an unbiased discussion group, FWIW.
Indee, agreed. So why don t UK-ers get em. They are king MDMA consumers probably. But NL-ers are good to, i took a lot weekly some two days.
Some of my friends were 100 x times worse [me bit Chicken/ scared or good sense ?], They also drank on it, used any imaginable fun drug. Both functional employed no LTC. Step up Tekno/ Gabber scene. 200/ 440 x more ? These people combine MTA and MDMA and whatever, because you got so fucking high [and could die].
These went totally overboard some became Junks, died or stopped. Some still are going. 70 +, but never heard any mention about LTC
Yeah so the Netherlands places a heavy importance on the concept of harm reduction, and as you pointed-out, provide safety services such as pill testing and have for the past couple decades. I applaud your country's government for this approach and for their embrace of bicycles. At the same time, let's not disregard the fact that transnational criminal organizations have increasingly started operating inside the NL forming the beginnings of what has been described as a narco-state, with connections to Asian crime syndicates, Mexican drug-running cartels and other TCOs. So let's not fellate ourselves too heavily just yet.
Funny enough, PMMA and PMA—when represented honestly and not as "ecstasy", "MDMA", or "molly", but as "PMMA" or "PMA" and when dosed in the proper, safe range—is a really kickass drug that I've used a few times and had excellent experiences each time, but I also realize it has a steep incline into toxicity and it can be lethal when taken to a relatively small threshold overdose amount. MDMA/MDA have way better safety profiles.
That's not what I hear. I understand meth is taking off in EU & Australia. And besides let's please not pretend that amphetamine paste ("speed") is a harmless compound…
But before internet existed, and Belgium made Meth OTC it illegal,
and Germany Phenmetrazine
NL. declared it had no medical value. So no more prescription drug.
It dried up.
And was replaced by Speed, which is not a harmless substance, and not a paste.
Took 1/ 2 gram spread out 1-st time, thinking in Coke terms, 24 hour up 24 down.
And the down not worth the up. If i gave that impression something was,
or written or interpreted. Saw a good friend, speed freak, decline for my eyes.
In a few incident Speed was tainted with PM[M]A, and a warning went out.
But that was once, and MTA when illegal went to the UK sold illegal as
FLATLINERS
My ADHD medication, dextro Ampetamine, 20/ 25 mg a day
[take less then prescribed] used as prescribed less dangerous then
PARACETAMOl or APAP, and certainly not close to the hell of Diclofeanac.
Or the bogus bullshit drug, Levetiracetam, dr s think stops seizure.
Or get paid to 'Sell that stuff'
It doesn t prevent seizures, the fuckers didn t mention its side effects.
Suicidal feelings, also a after effect of a seizure. 1+1=3.
During day rage, at night insomnia and when lucky a lucid nightmare.
Seizures are triggered by stress and the following insomnia.
To someone suffering insomnia, nightmares. Only idiots and wastemen.
Dr s, and bad drug dealers are not harmless, plain dangerous,
essentially overpriced dumb ass killers. But still around lucky.
Had the tools ready to make a end to my lively spirit, destroy it.
While that is a natural reaction after a seizure, side effect.
And the Neurologist a quack. And a active potential murderer.
RC are illegal now, well investigation proved.
1/ 2 the labs produced both legal RCs and illegal drugs.
Now its illegal, so all glassware. lab, experienced jobless,
now experienced chemists.
Pretty obvious what our Gouvernement wants.
Besides being a tax paradise, named inbetween Panama and Kayman Islands
Become markt leader producing illegal Meth, Fentanyl, Nitazenes.
To spread over the world, and give those criminals some extra dirty cash.
The infra structure is already finished, and thanks to the Liberals.
Who/ why, how ? Lies, manipulation, not following experts advise and
They off course [secretly] support these criminals,
and gives a fuck about citizens health.
As its the opposite of Harm Reduction,
leaving this to be done by Criminals.
The Muppetshow still on, even in that 1-st chamber. Unacceptable.
the opposition was strong integer, Harm reduction aimed,
there argument s against backed with facts.
Never? Are you sure of that? Sounds like an absolute. I seem to remember seeing pill reports from Amsterdam, the Hague and/or Rotterdam, involving some pills w/caffeine. It boosts MDMA's effects, both good and bad but it's mad common along with MDMA. However, perusing a few pill reports, all the recovered MDMA from NL seems to be just MDMA recently. It is the MDMA producing capital after all, and I have no doubt the M is bangin' there. But so too do I procure pure MDMA in the U.S., FWIW
Read on NCBI bout the Caffeine potentates. But back then, 80-ties no internet.
So testing service was great, never had anything in it but MDMA.
Did trust someone who was actually not ton be trusted.
A friend & speedfreak, and speed dealers apparently can get tainted pills.
So trust in tests not word of friends. So once MDA unknowing.
Nice surprise. Once knowing MDA/MDMA from a real dealer.
But that speed freak, once gave something that was real shit.
Still wonder what, felt sick/ toxic.
After MDEA was illegalized they were sold, the remains as MDEA.
Makes me wonder: do all Dutch people tend to stereotype this much, painting with broad strokes, so to speak, or was that just Johannes Vermeer?
I think you're making some false assumptions and jumping to conclusions perhaps.
Assumption, thought had it mostly under control by now.
That special part of NL i ment, is where i recede now. These are not real NL genetic.
!/ 2 Celt 1/2 Norwegian, they base anything on assumption.
And as they don t have Dutch Directness, continuous misunderstanding.
Weird is you can insult em with the truth, backed with facts.
So from there point you insulted the person, so they start war.
But war means trouble, something i don t need or look for.
So why always on my path ? The one of few you don t fuck with,
like kids should be fucked with.
Facts against assumptions. Acting if insulted, but insulting themselves.
And me. Called me retard, based on a false assumption.
Where do assumptions come from. By misinterpreting your thought s,
over and over again, till they became crazy.
No need for IQ tests, they have none. Exceptions excluded.
And i always right, facts and prove, and i always win except from the Police.
As the are above and ignore the Law. But fucked me big time.
Separated from my Kids based on a false assumption is a crime.
And pretty damaging for kids. I hate my Land, not the in it.
But lack of protest s, so they are Pussy s her too.
Lucky they got me, you wouldn t believe what i changed since i landed here.
Yeah they must hate, most.
I'm not so sure about that one. I seem to remember reading a EUDA paper talking about "hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD)" in Europe.
Maybe it doesn't affect the NL; after all, with a more reasonable approach to drugs in general focusing on harm reduction not criminalization, it wouldn't surprise me if there are fewer incidents that result from persistent drug abuse.
"Special parts"? Is that a metaphor for something? Lol
Did you just soil yourself?
Not sure what's meant by this, but I don't think this expression translates 100%.
Americans? Psssh. Listen: don't. Again, it's not a one-size fits all kinda thing. Americans are bitterly divided over many issues: gun rights, abortion rights, gay rights, trans rights, states' rights, corporate rights, copyrights, immigrant rights, etc. In the last election, ~78 million Americans voted for Trump while ~73 million voted for Kamala Harris. Our liberals look like the conservative parties of Europe while our conservatives look like unhinged, gun-toting, gator wranglin', stars and stripes-wearing, fat hillbillies obsessed with mindless violence and a weird, brutal-yet-boring sport perversely called "football" for no goddamn good reason. And meanwhile our government lords itself over the other nations as much as possible with U.S. currency being the international currency standard. This hegemony is largely from the opportunistic cherry-picking manner in which the U.S. entered WWII and through several strokes of good luck and deceptive American guile coupled with mid-20th century Japanese nationalism. This all led to war profiteering in dividing up the spoils with the war-torn "Allied Powers" of Europe. The U.S. came out as a world superpower and the gov. flexes that muscle in nuclear might and Naval intimidation. It also spread its prohibition disease all over the planet with Harry Anslinger as the ambassador of this horrible plague.
But don't feel sorry for us. We actually hate each other enough in this country and neither need nor deserve pity. Not yet anyway. We'll be alright.
Well it's overly critical as a side-effect of inaccurate stereotypes is my point. There's plenty of valid points to criticize though,
quod erat demonstrandum.
Uh huh. Me no talk good.
“There's only two types of people in this world I can't stand: those who are intolerant of other people's culture, and the Dutch.”
– Nigel Powers
(That's a swipe at me, not at you. I'm actually part Dutch myself anyway.)
I didn't know the acronym you were referring to initially, having never heard that exact term until today. Sounds like something the Dutch might make up
25% Dutch 25% danish/ 25 German 12.5 Celtish 12.5 % Norwegian.
My family fled were i now recede, they hero s and kinda tolerated/ kept still.
They were not Farmers, Fishers and when a ship was in trouble sinking they
took there paddled through meters waves, a voluntary task, to save the survivors.
The did get a statue though, recognition took 100 years but.
There also 10 times slower then the Dutch.
And some Persian genes too so how it actually genetically is in me ?
Moe ff stoppen
