Trigger Warning Which Psychedelics and Dissociatives evoke the strongest Entheogenic experiences in you?

[CentipedeKarma]

Edit: I'm also curious if the N-benzylated versions of these have ever been explored by anybody here, 25[D/E/T-2/T-7]-NB[OH/OMe], essentially. Also DMMDA-2, lophophine, lophophine with N-benzylation, and anything even relatively close to these I'm looking for experience reports on because I'm having a tough time finding them, and boy it's low-key a pain in the ass to be Shulgin climbing novel compounds, very risky too.

I have tried 25B-NBOH . Realized u said this just now BUT...

I got 40 500ug geltabs at the end of summer 2023, having tried the same tabs (got 7 before) and having tolerance to them.
I've combined it with DXM and weed, then ended up flushing the mini-stash of tabs when i had 20 or so left. I stopped really caring about psychedelics, anyways. But I mainly flushed them while on... uh.. etizolam, or something. No memory, just know I flushed them..

low doses of 25b-nboh + lowdose dxm is craaazy fun. not mindfucky, but really enhances everything..
I remember getting the 40 tabs and popping 8 without thinking. I HAD TOLERANCE, but i was convinced i was gonna die.I DONT KNOW WHY I DID THIS... it was fun tho. MY BIG GAY SEXUALIZED DEATH!!

 

[Esperighanto]

I have tried 25B-NBOH . Realized u said this just now BUT...

I got 40 500ug geltabs at the end of summer 2023, having tried the same tabs (got 7 before) and having tolerance to them.
I've combined it with DXM and weed, then ended up flushing the mini-stash of tabs when i had 20 or so left. I stopped really caring about psychedelics, anyways. But I mainly flushed them while on... uh.. etizolam, or something. No memory, just know I flushed them..

low doses of 25b-nboh + lowdose dxm is craaazy fun. not mindfucky, but really enhances everything..
I remember getting the 40 tabs and popping 8 without thinking. I HAD TOLERANCE, but i was convinced i was gonna die.I DONT KNOW WHY I DID THIS... it was fun tho. MY BIG GAY SEXUALIZED DEATH!!

25B-NBOH is interesting to me in that every straight person I know who's taken it doesn't enjoy it much but every queer person I know who has loves it, and it's a hard line down between everybody I know who's tried it IRL.

My initial run with 25B-NBOH left me feeling like it was 3 instances of 2C-B all at once, on one another's shoulders in a large trenchcoat like Eric Andre when he went to go buy that car. It led to me having sex to the rhythm of Afterlife by A7X, and later other similar music which was peculiar. My CEVs looked almost like gore, but it wasn't negative, just life itself. My boyfriend was on 2C-B during this time so he was kind of manically bopping around the apartment while I was on a mission to work out as intensely as possible for no reason at all. It's a really intense drug for some reason, but really beautiful and it mixes with other N-benzylated phenethylamines really well in my experience.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

25B-NBOH is interesting to me in that every straight person I know who's taken it doesn't enjoy it much but every queer person I know who has loves it, and it's a hard line down between everybody I know who's tried it IRL.

My initial run with 25B-NBOH left me feeling like it was 3 instances of 2C-B all at once, on one another's shoulders in a large trenchcoat like Eric Andre when he went to go buy that car. It led to me having sex to the rhythm of Afterlife by A7X, and later other similar music which was peculiar. My CEVs looked almost like gore, but it wasn't negative, just life itself. My boyfriend was on 2C-B during this time so he was kind of manically bopping around the apartment while I was on a mission to work out as intensely as possible for no reason at all. It's a really intense drug for some reason, but really beautiful and it mixes with other N-benzylated phenethylamines really well in my experience.

So fucking real.I rewatched my favorite movie (barber westchester by jonni peppers) on around 300-450mg dxm + no more than 2000ug 25b-nboh (i think it was closer to a 1500ug dose, 3 tabs?) and while it wasnt mystical... well, the movie is an indie animated film, and inbetween my last rewatch before this, and the tripped out watchthrough, the creator (Jonni) re-did the WHOLE sound design for the movie, and reuploaded it with that. I knew this, and made the watchthrough while on Dxm+25b my first with that version.

IT WAS SO KILLER... the sounds seemed SO Breathtaking! no words just KILLER SOUND DESIGN... i noticed an INCREDIBLE difference that night!!

I wouldnt get super cool visuals since im on 20mg abilify and dont really like skipping my dose too often, however i DID see rainbow auras, and "jewels" as a pattern overlaying my vision. Like... a trapezoid on its side to look like a kite? jewels. dont remember...

 

[Esperighanto]

So fucking real.I rewatched my favorite movie (barber westchester by jonni peppers) on around 300-450mg dxm + no more than 2000ug 25b-nboh (i think it was closer to a 1500ug dose, 3 tabs?) and while it wasnt mystical... well, the movie is an indie animated film, and inbetween my last rewatch before this, and the tripped out watchthrough, the creator (Jonni) re-did the WHOLE sound design for the movie, and reuploaded it with that. I knew this, and made the watchthrough while on Dxm+25b my first with that version.

IT WAS SO KILLER... the sounds seemed SO Breathtaking! no words just KILLER SOUND DESIGN... i noticed an INCREDIBLE difference that night!!

I wouldnt get super cool visuals since im on 20mg abilify and dont really like skipping my dose too often, however i DID see rainbow auras, and "jewels" as a pattern overlaying my vision. Like... a trapezoid on its side to look like a kite? jewels. dont remember...

I can certainly echo the sentiment that N-benzylated phenethylamines tend to have what I long ago referred to as "bejeweled pants looking visuals", the whole gemstone thing REALLY shines on 25I.

This conversation has led me to realize that my experiences with GHB, amphetamine, ephedrine, methamphetamine and cannabis are probably also some of my most profound, because although they didn't involve hallucinogens, life itself provided experience enough and those compounds put me in the right headspace for my environment at those times.

 

[CentipedeKarma]

I can certainly echo the sentiment that N-benzylated phenethylamines tend to have what I long ago referred to as "bejeweled pants looking visuals", the whole gemstone thing REALLY shines on 25I.

This conversation has led me to realize that my experiences with GHB, amphetamine, ephedrine, methamphetamine and cannabis are probably also some of my most profound, because although they didn't involve hallucinogens, life itself provided experience enough and those compounds put me in the right headspace for my environment at those times.

You got the Bejeweled Pants visuals also!??!?! lmaoo

i was supposed to try 25e-nboh in early 2020 except my parents found it in the mail and threw it out. SOMEDAY...!

 

[Esperighanto]

You got the Bejeweled Pants visuals also!??!?! lmaoo

i was supposed to try 25e-nboh in early 2020 except my parents found it in the mail and threw it out. SOMEDAY...!

Damn my mother has requested me to keep a sampler tray of my most visually enhancing psychedelics aside for her lol. Different cultures I suppose.

The jewel visuals first occurred to me before I'd touched 25B/25I, when I'd first taken peyote. That whole experience was very mild but the visuals were almost too overwhelming to navigate my apartment.

 

[Didgital]

To be clear, I took the 25B at pretty low dose 350mcg if I recall. While I enjoyed the main effects (kinda rolly) it made my thumb twitch uncontrollably for almost 24 hrs. So i decided n-bomes are not for me.

 

[Esperighanto]

To be clear, I took the 25B at pretty low dose 350mcg if I recall. While I enjoyed the main effects (kinda rolly) it made my thumb twitch uncontrollably for almost 24 hrs. So i decided n-bomes are not for me.

Damn, yeah that does sound like it's probably not a good fit. I've pushed 25B-NBOH up to ~800ug, 25I-NBOMe up to ~600ug, and 25C-NBOMe up to some truly foolish doses I won't mention because I don't want to encourage other people to do shit like that. My body tolerates it better than anybody elses I've noticed, but I also body the old LSD + amphetamines combo like I was born for the purpose, so I wouldn't be shocked if that's some indicator as to why N-benzylated phenethylamines fit me well. The long lasting tolerances and documented cardio/neurotoxicity cause me to only use them sparingly, though.