Tenth Day Of Tramadol WD

[Direwolf131]

Ok. If your provider cut you back until you were off tramadol, then you didn't wd. I'm guessing the current tramadol wd your experiencing didn't come from the clinic because its closed last November. Whatever. This explains your was. Your supply chain was severed. I would ask your current primary provider to send your pharmacy some benzos, say a two week supply. Kratom capsules might help, but, same as benzos, use for 2 weeks then cease. I'm sorry you had such an horrid experience, but I hope your feeling better soon. JS

Nope, I never caught up with the taper, I was always behind, just couldn't get there, I cold cut three times, from 300 mg, 250, and now 200mg! Last cold cut was the end as the scripts were done, my provider won't be providing me with anything further, which is precisely how approximately two out of every five of those Kennsington Blvd folks arrived in the gutter, for around 25% of them, a doctor deposited them there.

 

[Nicocastillo7]

When I was dealing with tramadol WD in the past, pregabalin, benzos and marijuana helped a bit... Now I'm still addicted and wd's are horrible (my dosage is 750mg-900mg daily) when I tried to quit in the past I was starting to feel somewhat normal after 14 days.
edit: It should be noted that I used ketamine after the 14 days of WD, in very irresponsible ways, so... I don't know.

 

[Direwolf131]

When I was dealing with tramadol WD in the past, pregabalin, benzos and marijuana helped a bit... Now I'm still addicted and wd's are horrible (my dosage is 750mg-900mg daily) when I tried to quit in the past I was starting to feel somewhat normal after 14 days.
edit: It should be noted that I used ketamine after the 14 days of WD, in very irresponsible ways, so... I don't know.

I'd not be able to do what I'm doing now, absent serious fucking medical intervention if my dosing was as high 900 mg a day! There are other folks herebouts who took even larger doses than that, some of them hugely larger, I couldn't do that. As I said somewhere above, in 2011 I came off two years of hydro 7.5 mg vicoprofen, as much as 95 mg a day, and that was childs play to this shit, on the morning of fourth day it was all over, I felt great, like I was ten years old on a balmy 70 degree day on my way to baseball, not this tramadol shit, its just goes on and on and on....

 

[Nicocastillo7]

Yes, it's actually quite hard to quit tramadol because of that horrible wd. You can try taking pregabalin and venlafaxine (if you can get it) it helped me, venlafaxine is an antidepressant that acts very similar to tramadol, and pregabalin helps with mood and pain. I don't recommend continuing to take pills, but at least this kept me sober, now I'm getting high a lot because I have access to all kinds of drugs and well... you know what that means.
I hope you can get over this, believe me, it will go away, but a chemical help is not bad, good luck!

I'd not be able to do what I'm doing now, absent serious fucking medical intervention if my dosing was as high 900 mg a day! There are other folks herebouts who took even larger doses than that, some of them hugely larger, I couldn't do that. As I said somewhere above, in 2011 I came off two years of hydro 7.5 mg vicoprofen, as much as 95 mg a day, and that was childs play to this shit, on the morning of fourth day it was all over, I felt great, like I was ten years old on a balmy 70 degree day on my way to baseball, not this tramadol shit, its just goes on and on and on....

 

[Direwolf131]

Yes, it's actually quite hard to quit tramadol because of that horrible wd. You can try taking pregabalin and venlafaxine (if you can get it) it helped me, venlafaxine is an antidepressant that acts very similar to tramadol, and pregabalin helps with mood and pain. I don't recommend continuing to take pills, but at least this kept me sober, now I'm getting high a lot because I have access to all kinds of drugs and well... you know what that means.
I hope you can get over this, believe me, it will go away, but a chemical help is not bad, good luck!

What about cymbalta? I have some of that, but I was thinking it had to build up, that you would not see any relief with a single dosing.

 

[Nicocastillo7]

What about cymbalta? I have some of that, but I was thinking it had to build up, that you would not see any relief with a single dosing.

The truth is I have never taken it... I always try to use drugs that have an immediate effect. That's why I was talking about Pregabalin, marijuana and benzos to sleep and keep anxiety down. At least that helped me, I guess... Now I'm on 950mg of tramadol and it doesn't feel great to be honest...

 

[Direwolf131]

12th consecutive night, not a fucking jot of sleep, I haven't slept in two fucking weeks... I seriously doubt I will ever sleep again, I am starting to get angry, really fucking angry.

 

[Nicocastillo7]

12th consecutive night, not a fucking jot of sleep, I haven't slept in two fucking weeks... I seriously doubt I will ever sleep again, I am starting to get angry, really fucking angry.

I would say that some benzos for insomnia for a few days would not be bad.

 

[Direwolf131]

I believe it to be day 13, still in tramadol wd, still no sleep! The stupid trick I tried, micro-dosing multiple times daily the last month, just 12.5 mg x 8 or more times a day made absolutely no difference whatsoever, which I kind of suspected anyway. I sure wish I had just four to six hydros, I'd sleep like a baby, as things stand its just a giant WTF, if I survive this shit I am never taking a tramadol again, and I will never take a physician at their word, there is nobody more full of shit than a corporatized md!

 

[Direwolf131]

I am cautiously optimistic I am starting to feel free of it, 12 freaking days, I am crossing my fingers for tonight, just let me catch three solid hours, that is all I ask!

I am not screwing around kiddies, run, don't walk away from tramadol, I am dead fucking serious, I'd take a good old fashioned oxy WD over tramadol every time, don't even need to think about it, 3-4 days vs 12 + is an absolute no-brainer.

 

[Halif2]

Hey mate. Did you get some sleep?

At two weeks out you're probably through the worst of the initial WDs. Perhaps take some magnesium supplements if you have them or can afford them.

Opiate/opioid withdrawal is certainly a special kind of hell. Tramadol is a weird one.

Hope you're doing alright.

 

[Direwolf131]

Hey mate. Did you get some sleep?

At two weeks out you're probably through the worst of the initial WDs. Perhaps take some magnesium supplements if you have them or can afford them.

Opiate/opioid withdrawal is certainly a special kind of hell. Tramadol is a weird one.

Hope you're doing alright.

A little bit, not perfect, but better than moon pie eyes at 3:30 am!

 

[Direwolf131]

15 days, still no sleep, maybe a few 30-40 minute black outs, but certainly nothing even remotely approximating meaningful sleep of any kind! Tonight I intend to consume 3 x 100 mg gabapentin and see if it helps, I cannot go on like this much longer, its absolutely kicking my ass...

 

[Direwolf131]

I ate 300 mg of gabapentin last night and it really didn't produce as I had hoped, I got about an hour of sleep I think, not all at the same time though. I am never touching tramadol again, this shit is a fucking bear to ditch, it just goes on and on and on, this is like 16 days, tonight I will eat 300 mg of gabapentin again, except this time alongside of 50-100 mg of benadryl, I'd just about kill for a half dozen diazepam, ain't kidding either!

 

[Direwolf131]

3:30 am, no sleep, its obvious I will never sleep again, its pointless even looking at the fucking thing.... Two benadryl, 300 mg gabapentin, and nothing!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

3:30 am, no sleep, its obvious I will never sleep again, its pointless even looking at the fucking thing.... Two benadryl, 300 mg gabapentin, and nothing!

Sleep is essential.

Stress and insomnia gave me seizures. Don t wanna scare you, took 2 1/2 years.
Before i got my first seizure, my dr. didn t wanna help.

My sleep restored somehow after rehab. 5 days of monster doses of Diazepam.
Sleep problem solved, only that part, not the cause. So it was not my dr., or the specialized sleep center but addiction that saved my life.

 

[Señor Moreno]

3:30 am, no sleep, its obvious I will never sleep again, its pointless even looking at the fucking thing.... Two benadryl, 300 mg gabapentin, and nothing!

It's so fucking hard, so sorry to hear you are going through such misery, but I promise you that you will sleep again.
I have no experience with tramadol as I allways saw it as a very dirty thing, but when an opi addiction gets seriuos, with heroin at least, I learnt to don't expect great things sleep wise in the first month, maybe some improvement after 20 or so days. And I won't tell you about mdone.

I guess that you can't get hold of any better than gabapentin and benadryl, but those aren't strong enough meds to help in a wd. Maybe enough doses of gabapentin could somehow help, but, to actually get some relef worthing that name, you are clearly in need of healthy doses of Lyrica and benzos for sone days, maybe zopiclone

Sadly, there isn't much that we can do for you from the other side of a phone screen, just offer you our support and understanding.

I honestly hope things improving for you, man. You are totally out of hope and that is normal, but don't let all this shit fool you: you have done the very worst of it by now, that's the only truth, and yiur suffering already reached it's worse, it didn't kill you and now it just have to start leaving. It isn't over by now, but it eventually will be, and it will happen sooner than later, at the teo weeks mark where you are at now.

Let us just go for these last miles!
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[Señor Moreno]

If you can't get benzos/pregab/zopi, you maybe could try and get clonidine, it could help to a degree.
Another option, certainly not the nicest, are antipsichotics. Some of them aren't too strong and dirty and can provide you some sleep.

 

[Jnowhere]

Entered my tenth day of fucking tramadol wd, not a jot of sleep in tens days, literally, I am a walking talking zombie!

While the overall cessation syndrome was much more tolerable due to intentional micro-dosing, with no real classical opiate wd whatsoever, I have yet to sleep a jot!

I am literally starting to believe I will never sleep again, its absolutely the fucking worst, I'd take a 3-5 day oxy wd any ol time over this shit!

I keep reading all this stuff on Tramadol,
But it seems to be a weak opiod, ( I am on oxycodone, legally prescribed)

I am wondering does Tramadol pack a buzz? Why are so many on it if is weak, and seems to cause problems.

All those conversion charts vary but oxycodone is 5-10× stronger by weight.
Also, it is just stronger.

Why are there so many tramadol people using, abusing or are addicted?

I had been under the impression that it was like codeine?

 

[Halif2]

I am wondering does Tramadol pack a buzz? Why are so many on it if is weak, and seems to cause problems.

Tramadol is a weird one. It is not a typical opioid in the sense that it also has anti-depressant properties as it's an SNRI. That can explain - to some extent - why it affects people differently and why it can be hard to get off after extended use. Of course people react differently to any drug, but Tramadol seems to be one that produces particularly varied subjective responses in people. It is not really a strong substance as far as opioids go, but it's complex and multi-faceted in its effects. For some people it gives quite a nice effect and is enjoyable but on the whole I wouldn't consider it as being very recreational. It is also worth noting that it can create a seizure risk (especially in higher doses or if someone is already prone to them e.g. epileptic).

Direwolf: You're probably getting closer to a point where sleep will start to become more possible. Hang in there. You are strong for making it this far.