EADD Heroin thread v.XXV -- a quarter centuary of threads if not yet a full decade since the 'drought'...

[Bleaney]

Bromazolam is just a benzo. It's an analogue of alprazolam / xanax. It is very commonly found in fake benzo pills that are supposed to be something else, like diazepam or actual xanax.

I presume it must be one of the cheapest Bz powders going, seeing as how often it's been used to counterfeit other benzos.

I take it that it's now also being detected in what is supposed to be heroin?

 

[DrPetro]

Yeah it's not the people who are supplying kg's of heroin adulterating it but maybe a few unscrupulous dealers who take ounces then adulterate it. Generally it's not tolerated well by users or other dealers, as other members here have said.
As i said though this is GENERALLY speaking, i'm sure there's still a very minimal amount of suppliers who have tried to adulterate H with RC opiods and sell wholesale. Obviously it's a foolish move, as they wind up with a load of stock that won't sell and will only cause them problems.

With the benzos i believe it is a different scenario entirely. Those Bensedin testing with Itonitazene etc in them are not being pressed in the UK in my opinion. I noticed several big UK suppliers stopped stocking Bensedin recently and said there was a drought. Given they come from Serbia, Serbian chemists/pharma brands do not have the best reputation, and Diazepam powder seems tougher to find nowadays than say 10 years ago. I think they knew their supply was coming to an end and tried to stretch it. As these batches with the Nitazene analogues in them came right before they seemingly stopped pressing.

I still come across people scoring h in the UK. So far more scrupulous dealers quality has dropped but no evidence of xenes. Very interesting to hear that some Bensedin have been cut as I've experienced them as being reliable diazepam

 

[DrPetro]

Bromazolam is just a benzo. It's an analogue of alprazolam / xanax. It is very commonly found in fake benzo pills that are supposed to be something else, like diazepam or actual xanax.

I presume it must be one of the cheapest Bz powders going, seeing as how often it's been used to counterfeit other benzos.

I take it that it's now also being detected in what is supposed to be heroin?

I've only come across bromazolam in a batch of very believably packaged fake diazepam. It felt more disinhibiting than diazepam but I didnt consume in large quantities and got half a pill tested by wedinos. I can certainly imagine it finding its way into the H supply at the moment

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Eau de Cyclopyrrolones

Is it smellable to others?

Thought it was just a annoying side effect, the sensation of metal taste.
Not that your breath actually becomes a metalic fume spreading through the room.

 

[Bleaney]

I've only come across bromazolam in a batch of very believably packaged fake diazepam. It felt more disinhibiting than diazepam but I didnt consume in large quantities and got half a pill tested by wedinos. I can certainly imagine it finding its way into the H supply at the moment

I've only knowingly had it once in a batch of what was supposed to be alprazolam. The wedinos test detected bromazolam and nothing else.

I couldn't feel any effects at the time from 1-2 pills, where I would have had it been alprazolam. But I was definitely more groggy and hungover feeling than usual the next morning.

I speculate that the batch may have had more than just bromazolam, with some other impurities or contiminants that Wedinos did not pick up.

Other people have mentioned that they found bromazolam enjoyable and very similar to alprazolam. As you would expect seeing as how chemically similar they are.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Bromazolam is just a benzo. It's an analogue of alprazolam / xanax. It is very commonly found in fake benzo pills that are supposed to be something else, like diazepam or actual xanax.

I presume it must be one of the cheapest Bz powders going, seeing as how often it's been used to counterfeit other benzos.

I take it that it's now also being detected in what is supposed to be heroin?

Thanks for the reply & to teach my stupid ass some Wisdom.

I presume it must be one of the cheapest Bz powders going, seeing as how often it's been used to counterfeit other benzos

Damn, I assume this stuff is very popular on the fake Benzo market?
Have you any experience with this stuff?

I take it that it's now also being detected in what is supposed to be heroin?

I have to watch what I say as I spoke to someone who is way above me in "The Pecking Order" of the street & the way things work & some people are very aware of what Fent is & they refused to sell gear that is cut with it.
A batch went out around the area I live & it is cut very badly with that Brom....... stuff.

When I asked when will we see proper Heroin back the guy laughed so hard & I quote the person directly "More chance of my mom eating a Bacon Sandwich" when you take into account the person is a Sunni Muslim & their parents are very big Religious people you can read the tea leaves.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Got 15 this morning, I only got a very small discount on it & I was told on the call it was the same stuff he had in a few days ago & if I didn't want it the guy would understand.
When the dealer is saying that to his Customers that says it all about the mess things are in sadly.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I still come across people scoring h in the UK. So far more scrupulous dealers quality has dropped

Has the cost gone up from your source?

I can certainly imagine it finding its way into the H supply at the moment

I can 100% Promise you this is the case.
I have no idea or desire to know where you are in the UK but watch your stash as it will be coming to you very soon.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

the sensation of metal taste.

How close to Zopiclone is it?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

The wedinos test

What is this test for?
What will it actually test? Can you use it to get a breakdown of Heroin?

Longtime users of EADD & BL will know I am no cry-baby, I say on the illegal market you have to take a chance with the content of your dope now & again, it's no good crying if you go buy a gram of Ketamine yet you end up with some 4-MeO-PCP instead BUT the way the Smack market is around here I honestly suggest people keep an eye out on what they are being sold is all I am saying.

There is some serious weight sitting in lockup units etc waiting to be bagged up & put out on the street that is cut badly with all kinds of odd Benzo & Fent cocktails, I really don't want to hear members of EADD are no longer alive but I am SURE by 2/1/2025 EADD will be a little lighter on the amount of active users.

I had very strong words about the "Moral line" you are crossing when I have my main guy ask me about Naloxone, how much they may be able to sell it & how it works on someone.

I have 0.4 left of what is meant to be "Heroin" but it isn't, when I smoke it in a few mins I will stick on Townes Van Zandt - St John The Gambler as I inhale it.

"But the road was long beneath the feet
She followed her frozen breath
In search of a certain St John the gambler
Stumbling to her death
She heard his laughter right down from the mountains
And danced with her mothers tears
To a funeral drawn a calico
'neath the cross of twenty years."

 

[emkee_reinvented]

How close to Zopiclone is it?

It was Zopiclone, but in the description manual it mentions taste, not smelling like.
Hence the remark. Only had a few but the (after) taste was very annoying and strong.

Edit: actually its the after taste as it comes on later as the hypnotic effects. But was there the next day.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

It was Zopiclone, but in the description manual it mentions taste, not smelling like.
Hence the remark. Only had a few but the taste was very annoying and strong.

Sorry about that, I must have read the post & missed the part about Zopi or made some mistake in the way I understood what you posted, I am sorry for my mistake & behaviour which is borderline "neurodiverse" AKA acting like a fucking idiot.

the taste was very annoying and strong.

LOL

The worst in my experience is from snorting Zopi, it comes on so fast & hits so much harder.
The worst thing about snorting Zopi is the taste, it is so much more Potent than you get from eating them & it stays with you for ages, the worst I have had it was for a solid 36 hours, when I drink Coffee it makes some truly Evil cocktail in my mouth & I cannot find words to express how bad it is.
A friend tried snorting them before & had the same issue with the metal taste, he also had a Coffee later on & moaned at me how bad it was, Mustard is also a truly foul experience too for some reason.

My mom has been picked to be a Human Lab-rat for some new arthritis drug, it is totally new & she has been moaning at me due to the taste she gets from it & to my shock she said it is like metal, every way she could express it it's the same as Zopi, I will find out what is called tomorrow & post it up here.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Sorry about that, I must have read the post & missed the part about Zopi or made some mistake in the way I understood what you posted, I am sorry for my mistake & behaviour which is borderline "neurodiverse" AKA acting like a fucking idiot.


LOL

The worst in my experience is from snorting Zopi, it comes on so fast & hits so much harder.
The worst thing about snorting Zopi is the taste, it is so much more Potent than you get from eating them & it stays with you for ages, the worst I have had it was for a solid 36 hours, when I drink Coffee it makes some truly Evil cocktail in my mouth & I cannot find words to express how bad it is.
A friend tried snorting them before & had the same issue with the metal taste, he also had a Coffee later on & moaned at me how bad it was, Mustard is also a truly foul experience too for some reason.

My mom has been picked to be a Human Lab-rat for some new arthritis drug, it is totally new & she has been moaning at me due to the taste she gets from it & to my shock she said it is like metal, every way she could express it it's the same as Zopi, I will find out what is called tomorrow & post it up here.

Afaik you really like and use it daytime, whats its like. I was curious about Zolpidems effects but never got one.
And no need for sorry's, no offence was felt. I know your posts, your cool, so its never came over like you describe.

The 3 Zoplicones i had where always taken as sleepaid, although the taste remains all next day.
Never took it while awake, so curious what did I miss is it different then a Benzo. More like a drug?

 

[Bleaney]

@Zopiclone bandit Wedinos test any samples you send them for all known or expected compounds. See below for examples of what was found in the 3 most recent samples:

W054762

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Date Received: 05 Aug 2024
Postcode: SA31 -
Purchase Intent: heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Orange, Yellow
Sample Form: Solid
Consumption Method: Smoked
Self-Reported Effects: Relaxed
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): Noscapine, Heroin, Paracetamol, Caffeine, 6-MAM, 6-Acetylcodeine
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor): Papaverine
000235327

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Date Received: 05 Aug 2024
Postcode: NP20 -
Purchase Intent: Heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Grey
Sample Form: Solid
Consumption Method: Intravenous
Self-Reported Effects: Empathy, Relaxed, Breathlesness
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): No Active Component Identified
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor):
W054586

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Date Received: 01 Aug 2024
Postcode: B30 -
Purchase Intent: Heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Grey, Brown
Sample Form: Powder
Consumption Method: Intravenous
Self-Reported Effects: No Effect
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): Paracetamol, Caffeine, Metonitazene, Noscapine, 6-MAM, Heroin
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor): 6-Acetylcodeine, Papaverine

It is a sensible idea to use the service, especially considering the dangerous state of the market right now, but as Blondin said a while ago, 'most heroin users are not sensible people' (I think he meant at least when it comes to using heroin if they have any kind of compulsions or dependancies to use as is often the case.)

If you are in a position to be able to acquire heroin, send a bit off to be analaysed and wait about 3 weeks for the results then great, but as you will no doubt know all too well, the reality is that many heroin users aren't going to be able to wait that long.

Unless they / you are sitting on a large stockpile of known good gear, or have incredible powers of self discipline and patience.

Talking of Blondin, I've now also noticed that he hasn't logged in for a few weeks, since you mentioned it a while ago. I'm not sure if that is normal for him or not.

Shout out to @blondin Can you let us know you're OK if and when you see this?

There seems to have been a lot of mysterious disappearing acts in EADD over recent times. Hopefully none of them are anything bad, and just people being busy with other things going on in life, or just moved on to a phase of abstinence, or something like that.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Sample Upon Analysis (Major): No Active Component Identified

FFS


At this rate I give it till Xmas this year, half the old timer Junkies (103rd Street Boys) will be dead from Fent, smoking Spice which killed at least 3 people I know of 100% that I had Respect for in the Junk game & the rest will have gone Insane from trying to get clean by taking Ibogaine.

I didn't have to look hard to find where @blondin has got to, he jumped the sinking ship & set himself up in the Jungle of Gambon.

 

[Psycho_Logic]

I was curious about Zolpidems effects but never got one.

Zolpidem is a weird one. Here in Balkans it is fairly easy to get it prescribed. Whole benzodiazepine psychosis is not in the full swing but one can feel it coming. Before diazepam, lorazepam or alprazolam were hypnotics of choice. While they are still prescribed they are used more for anxiety and (diazepam) muscle relaxation. But zolpidem is not hard to get. On the other hand in my country zopiclone is not available.

I wouldn't advise anyone to use zolpidem during daytime. Even 5mg can bring pronounced hypnotic and a bit deliriant properties. If I was taking it I would take 5-10mg as I am entering a bed to sleep wiith another 5-10mg dose if I wake up. They come on subtly strong if that makes sense. High chance of having fals feeling of being sober while doing strange stuff not remembering a thing later. Disinhibition is very pronounced. They are short acting (2-3 hours) but combination of hypnotic, disinhibiting and sometimes delirious effects can lead to big troubles if taken during day time. On the other hand if taken before sleep one can have 30 minutes of fun before pasing out. And beware of zolpidems ability to induce sleepwalking. Not only sleepwalking but sleepliving.

Very interesting substance that on an occasion can put a person in an dangerous situations.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Zolpidem is a weird one. Here in Balkans it is fairly easy to get it prescribed. Whole benzodiazepine psychosis is not in the full swing but one can feel it coming. Before diazepam, lorazepam or alprazolam were hypnotics of choice. While they are still prescribed they are used more for anxiety and (diazepam) muscle relaxation. But zolpidem is not hard to get. On the other hand in my country zopiclone is not available.

I wouldn't advise anyone to use zolpidem during daytime. Even 5mg can bring pronounced hypnotic and a bit deliriant properties. If I was taking it I would take 5-10mg as I am entering a bed to sleep wiith another 5-10mg dose if I wake up. They come on subtly strong if that makes sense. High chance of having fals feeling of being sober while doing strange stuff not remembering a thing later. Disinhibition is very pronounced. They are short acting (2-3 hours) but combination of hypnotic, disinhibiting and sometimes delirious effects can lead to big troubles if taken during day time. On the other hand if taken

My client i worked at, who had quite a bizar dr took em. Along with painkillers Tramadol later Fentanyl, while on a SSRI.
And she stopped taking as she was having hallucinogenic like effects after falling a sleep. So basicly see was sleepwalking under influence at night. Resulting in accidents. But she mostly mentioned the weird dreamlike distorted state she would sometimes wke up in. Standing in the kitchen with a opened frich door.

Also almost had Serotonin Syndrome. when she was prescribed both Tramadol and a SSRI, what do dr s know these days i wonder.

 

[Psycho_Logic]

Standing infront an open refrigirator with a plate filled with soup, cookies and a sock in the middle off it is a not so regular but typical sleep-"whatever" reaction to zolpidem.

And one more thing - I never experienced much difference between 20mg or 60mg of zolpidem. Maybe I was more prone to this bizarre behaviours with higher doses but it almost seems like zolpidem has a ceiling at ~20mg regarding falling asleep. In the end you're not missing out much @emkee_reinvented .

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

@Zopiclone bandit Wedinos test any samples you send them for all known or expected compounds. See below for examples of what was found in the 3 most recent samples:

W054762

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Date Received: 05 Aug 2024
Postcode: SA31 -
Purchase Intent: heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Orange, Yellow
Sample Form: Solid
Consumption Method: Smoked
Self-Reported Effects: Relaxed
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): Noscapine, Heroin, Paracetamol, Caffeine, 6-MAM, 6-Acetylcodeine
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor): Papaverine
000235327

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Date Received: 05 Aug 2024
Postcode: NP20 -
Purchase Intent: Heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Grey
Sample Form: Solid
Consumption Method: Intravenous
Self-Reported Effects: Empathy, Relaxed, Breathlesness
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): No Active Component Identified
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor):
W054586

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Date Received: 01 Aug 2024
Postcode: B30 -
Purchase Intent: Heroin
Package Label: Not Stated
Sample Colour: Grey, Brown
Sample Form: Powder
Consumption Method: Intravenous
Self-Reported Effects: No Effect
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): Paracetamol, Caffeine, Metonitazene, Noscapine, 6-MAM, Heroin
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor): 6-Acetylcodeine, Papaverine

It is a sensible idea to use the service, especially considering the dangerous state of the market right now, but as Blondin said a while ago, 'most heroin users are not sensible people' (I think he meant at least when it comes to using heroin if they have any kind of compulsions or dependancies to use as is often the case.)

If you are in a position to be able to acquire heroin, send a bit off to be analaysed and wait about 3 weeks for the results then great, but as you will no doubt know all too well, the reality is that many heroin users aren't going to be able to wait that long.

Unless they / you are sitting on a large stockpile of known good gear, or have incredible powers of self discipline and patience.

Talking of Blondin, I've now also noticed that he hasn't logged in for a few weeks, since you mentioned it a while ago. I'm not sure if that is normal for him or not.

Shout out to @blondin Can you let us know you're OK if and when you see this?

There seems to have been a lot of mysterious disappearing acts in EADD over recent times. Hopefully none of them are anything bad, and just people being busy with other things going on in life, or just moved on to a phase of abstinence, or something like that.

Managed to get something last night, the guy told me it was new & he had to pay for it but told me it was good.

Good isn't the word, I am still on the nod even now & I finished smoking last night at 6.20pm.
I still have pinned eyes & got an itch on as I sit here now!!!!!

While 90% of the UK are singing along to this I am on the nod.

 

[DrPetro]

Has the cost gone up from your source?



I can 100% Promise you this is the case.
I have no idea or desire to know where you are in the UK but watch your stash as it will be coming to you very soon.

The way that the increase in cost has filtered down is that his 15's, which used to be a pretty decent size have shruuuunnnnkkkk !!