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mal3volent said:
Right on comrade.
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Do you know the difference between socialism and Communism?
mal3volent said:
guaranteed you don't know shit about any of these without going back to the Wikipedia page you got them from.
but hooray for you, your research skillz are unparalleled.
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Guaranteed you didn't even look into one of them because your fingers are to busy in your ears and ass to actually try to understand the hills you die on.
 
nepalnt21 said:
it's a pretty (ostensibly) naive claim... i know you know bibi hoisted hamas.
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I don't give a fuck about singular politicians, especially ones who everyone in this thread is not a fan of
In Israel's system, Netanyahu is replaceable.
Think Hamas would peacefully surrender power? 🤔
Nope, they'd rather achieve martyrdom and take out as many Jews as possible.
 
The left thinks they're supporting Palestinians, but they're actually supporting Hamas, because that's literally their government.

That's the flaw in all of this US activism.

Let's just look at a hypothetical situation where Israel completely retreats, then donates a bunch of money to sponsor a Palestinian statehood.

Who do you think would receive then control that money? Hamas. Because that's literally their fucking political party, not some rogue group.

What happened when the US built a pier to donate aid to the people? Hamas took it over, Terrorists bombed it, etc.

What happened when the US left Afghanistan? The Taliban took over and immediately banned women from reading fuckin books or general education.

This whole issue to me is particularly bizarre, because the left is supposed to be the rational side. They really have no idea what they're fighting for. Gen Z is seemingly obsessed with labeling themselves with certain disorders and highlighting their perceived oppressors.

I think cell phones have made kid's brains soft and deluded.
 
Imagine if Hamas was actually named "Taliban" or "ISIS"..... would the left support them as much? Really not much of a difference anyways.

Hamas probably glorifies 9/11, but I guess Gen Z doesn't care because they weren't born yet.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
Does that mean that the people supporting Israel are supporting the government? Or does that only apply to Palestine/Hamas?
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I guess we should define "supporting". I criticize a lot of things, but I don't necessarily support Israel.

I think 90% of discussion online isn't supporting either side anyways, it's just online discussion. Waving a flag 5000 miles away isn't supporting a country in wartime, is it? It's as fickle as small talk, like saying 'good morning' as you walk by a stranger you'll never see again.

People aren't exactly contributing to the war effort, although in a much broader sense, I guess they are. Cyber warfare.
 
mal3volent said:
Hamas would peacefully surrender power?
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why would they? israel already said they wouldn't stop their genocidal actions, even if hamas gave back all hostages and surrendered.

israel is also actively creating MORE hamas as they go along, and they know this. they obviously want this. you think the replaceable netanyahu is alone in this opinion?
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Imagine if Hamas was actually named "Taliban" or "ISIS"..... would the left support them as much? Really not much of a difference anyways.

Hamas probably glorifies 9/11, but I guess Gen Z doesn't care because they weren't born yet.
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It is fashionable to say shit like 9/11 was justified these days. Even senior staff on our discord agree.
 
nepalnt21 said:
i agree, israel doesn't. hence why they don't care whether the hostages come back nor whether they die in bombings.
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Wow, did you just use the "im rubber and your glue" strategy? 😐
At least it matches the intellectual maturity of your other posts...
 
daturetard said:
The difference is that Palestine aren't the aggressors here. In the recent attacks from HAMAS, yes, but if you look at the history of the region, a group of people who supposedly once owned your land come in and you're told to go kick rocks (or killed). So you move to a bordering country and the group of people that just kicked you out of your house keep getting into wars with the countries you're allies with and probably have friends in. Taking that land and removing their people (6 Day War and many others) when they win the wars, now Isreal kind of looks a bit more like the Nazis than Palestine. Do you think after watching every other conflict lost by the Arab nations to Isreal, that Palestine really thinks they're gonna win? No, this is a dying man gouging at the eyes of his attacker.
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That and alot more was their land. They got a sliver of their land back.
 
daturetard said:
Let's see a list of countries backing Isreal vs backing Palestine. Palestine has no western support (not trying to say they deserve it but NEITHER SIDE DOES. Theres plenty of evidence of Isreal misusing the weapons we send to them). That might show the difference in technology and weaponry they're dealing with.

Edit: since madness wants to be anal; no western MILITARY support. In a war conflict, I thought that might be the obvious kind of support I was referring to, rather than humanitarian support. QUICK! THROW THE FOOD RATION PACKETS AT THE ISREALIS!
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There should be a charity called: Ammo for Israel
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
The name ...
Anyone who claims they are different is just fooling themselves.
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Fun fact: Josef Stalin spent more money and time and effort. Hunting down Trotsky supporters, and socialists, than western capitalists. It is a bitter, nonsensical fight by arrogant nerds, who think they have a( well I can't say God given right, they are atheist)view that they alone have the answers to man's problems, and let the persuctions, killings and tyranny begin.
 
alasdairm said:
in practice perhaps but not in theory.

also, big difference between (authoritarian) socialism and democratic socialism.

the right has done a good job of deliberately conflating the two for more effective fear-mongering.

alasdair
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Your comments are consistently absurd, fuck theory, I have heard communist leaders going back and forth between socialism and communism. A little known historical figure was the head of the National Socialists German Workers Party. I believe it was some guy named Adolf. Talk about authoritarian. Then the communists kill all their enemies real or just people to kill. Josef Stalin liked to execute people in all parts of the USSR, just to terrify the people and the show trials with got rid of all old Bolsheviks, except for himself and Trotsky who took refuge in other countries that would let the mass murderer in.
Trotsky was begged by Lenin to be his Succesor; Trotsky refused because of rampant anti semitism. He even once said" I wish I could shed this Jewish skin.( plenty of Jewish atheists) He was killed in 1940 by one of Stalins henchmen. Communists are just as authoritarian as Hitler who hated capitalism but not as much as communism. He believed that the jews created communism and that Jews were planning on taking over the world. Besides being a fanatical antisemite, he probably didn't want competition and also whatever the German term for space and breathing room.
 
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Jnowhere said:
fuck theory, I have heard communist leaders going back and forth between socialism and communism.
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which says something about those communist leaders and nothing about socialism and communism.

Jnowhere said:
A little known historical figure was the head of the National Socialists German Workers Party. I believe it was some guy named Adolf. Talk about authoritarian.
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if you're going to deliberately conflate socialism (karl marx style) with national socialism, probably no point continuing.

alasdair
 
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