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Where are you that kava kava is illegal?

Europe. NL.

One stupid mf used the wholeplant. Which causes liver problems, case closed forbidden.
I rember being at some friend's friend an they had kava, I think it was a liquid. That was in Germany, and I was very young and inexperienced, but I also remember that I felt quite content after having some.of that liquid. When I finally learned it was Kava and wanted to get some, I was told it wasn't available anymore.experienced
Now I'm someplace else, and it's years later and somehow I still can't get hold of some Kava (though it's apparently not illegal) to satisfy my curiosity
 
Google Kava Kava and you will find places that ship to the UK. I won't link them here since it's technically illegal under the PSA (Not to possess, but it is to import)
 
Etizolam was decent tbh, I don't think the ones I had were Etiz because etiz doesn't last too long. I'd be going into school the next day fucked up and only realising when people told me days later I was in the common room failing to make a Pot Noodle

But even legit benzos basically turn people into criminals if the dose is high enough, especially if they're already that way inclined. I know guys who would take a bunch of valium then go around stealing satnavs. There's plenty of cases of burglars falling asleep in the house they're burgling, or forgetting that they're burgling a house and making themselves a sandwich from the victims fridge because they're that fucked up.

In high enough doses they can make you think that you're invincible and/or invisible, which doesn't help. Alcohol can definitely make you think that you're invincible, but not invisible from my experience.
Yeah I liked etizolam but like all benzos (or whatever kind of semi-benzo etizolam is, I can't remember), if you take too much you can end up seriously losing yourself. As I said about those NTZs, they were fucking people up so much that it was like a zombie town even though people on the streets tend to just put the whole bag in their mouths (good ol' freshly dyed blue tongue). I got into states on them even though I never ate a whole bag at a time, I'd always try one of anything new to see how it affected me but after a while you forget how many you've taken (20 in a bag back then, usually 25 for a tenner now). Things would happen though such as being seen by people and not remembering even though I conversed with them. Also falling asleep on a bus chatting with an acquaintance, waking up the next day to find a cock and balls drawn on every page of my notebook. I admired their commitment to their project. But still I remember even taking one for the mere purpose of anxiety and feeling really loopy, stronger than any diazepam tablet I've ever had and when I learnt they contained etizolan, I wondered if they press 10mg in without realising that 1mg of etiz is equal in strength to 10mg of diazepam. Who knows. As I said people thought those pills contained rohypnol because people were in such a mess after taking them. I'd buy them again in a heart beat and just microdose them haha.

I do miss etizolam though and would replace diazepam for it if I got a good source because it is unlikely to be faked I imagine. At this point I don't even care if the pills I get have bromazolam in them, as long as it's not just chalk (or worse, containing nitazenes). The ones I mentioned wouldn't mess you up for days like the ones you're talking about though - you'd wake up sober. Might be interesting for you to look through some of those bulletins and see if any you remember come up. The ones that start with "flual" apparently last a very long time.

There's even one with fentanyl although I dunno when from. I remember those going around, or that press anyway and people saying they were weak but that doesn't mean they were the same ones as these presses are used and re-used by different groups and all that. When I had them they were sold as "temazepam" and people thought they were weak as fuck. Not sure how active fentanyl is orally anyway.
 
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Google Kava Kava and you will find places that ship to the UK. I won't link them here since it's technically illegal under the PSA (Not to possess, but it is to import)
In the US there are Kava, and Kratom bars like in Israel Khat bars. But in Europe that's wisfull thinking.
That is more what I am waiting for. Especially for the Kava Kava as expertice seems necessary with the preperation and the kind used.

Or a strong Lemon balm/ passsiflora/ Magnolia bark extract. Slept well on Mulungu last night so I am hopeful nature is the cure.
 
An absurd amount of murders in Scotland were committed by people under the influence of benzos + alcohol , it's not so much that people were ODing on it, they were doing this combo, then going around stabbing people

Obviously you see the impact of alcohol in hospitals / police stations more, because it's the most commonly used drug by far. Something like 50+% of the population drink at least once a week. This doesn't mean that it's more dangerous than meth.
Did they blackout while doing the stabbing?
 
Overall harm to others score for methamphetamine looks off to me. Is it just a UK chart?

what about riding the horse while on mdma? You ever tried that? I have. Unfortunately the horse's husband come home and caught us and kicked me in the head. I've never been the same since...

Anyone who has ever lived in a community where meth has widespread popularity can tell you that the “harm to others” bar is laughably small lol. At least with heroin use you just travel into Nodistan and drool on yourself in a stationary position; meth propels a demented doppelgänger of yourself into public to wreck havoc! 🤪 you’ll be making other people’s lives exciting, dontchu worry ‘bout that pardner..
 
I have to read more of this thread, but has anyone here tried these products?

What's in them?

And if you have tried it, how did you like it/how did it compare to alcohol?
 
I have to read more of this thread, but has anyone here tried these products?

What's in them?

And if you have tried it, how did you like it/how did it compare to alcohol?
The summary so far seems to be less than favourable reviews, but with new2drugs singlehandedely continuing to bang the drum for these products.
 
I'm only banging the drum for the real one.
What's "the real one"? Do you actually get good effects from these? Cause if others have tried them and you are the only one who likes them, then that doesn't speak that highly for them.

Also, do any of these actually include David Nutt's "alcarelle"? I don't think they probably do right? I heard they are looking towards the end of the decade for it MAYBE becoming available.
 
What's "the real one"? Do you actually get good effects from these? Cause if others have tried them and you are the only one who likes them, then that doesn't speak that highly for them.

Also, do any of these actually include David Nutt's "alcarelle"? I don't think they probably do right? I heard they are looking towards the end of the decade for it MAYBE becoming available.
No one has tried it cause it's not out till end of the decade like you said.
 
Any other new alternatives or similar things to alcohol out there? This alcarelle looks to be taking its time. 🥴
 
Any other new alternatives or similar things to alcohol out there? This alcarelle looks to be taking its time. 🥴
Nothing new, but I think all substances that hit the gaba receptors, as alcohol does, can have broadly similar effects, (mood uplift, lowered inhibitions, relaxation and anxiety reduction, increased sociability etc) although there are huge differences when you look more closely at each individual substance, and obviously individuals reactions to every substance vary extremely widely.

I'd say that Soma is probably the substance most similar to alcohol that I've tried. It can give you that very alcohol-like 'swimmy headed' feeling like you had when you first started drinking. I much prefer it to alcohol, but I don't generally derive a huge amount of enjoyment from alcohol. If I've not drank for some time then some novel type of alcohol does give me a sense of well being, but tolerance to that effect quickly wears off ime.

Soma also attaches to the barbiturate receptor as well as the gaba receptor, so it definitely needs treating with a lot of caution.

Then there's all the other Gaba drugs like GBL (I find it way more euphoric than alcohol and so much better all round), benzos, altogether more functional, depending on the dose, pregabalin (individuals reactions to this substance vary enormously), phenibut (which remains legal to buy in the UK). I've only dabbled a few times with phenibut, and whilst I enjoy it very much the day I'm taking and the afterglow the day after, I get a strong feeling of anhedonia afterwards which lasts me for 7-10 days, which makes it a bad deal, with the toll to pay for the initial buzz too high and long lasting for it to be very sensible imho. I definitely find it mood destabalising, and although the after effects are nowhere near as severe as after a stim binge for example, the effect lasts much, much, longer ime.

I've found that phenibut combines incredibly well with moderate amounts of alcohol, (like 1 beer per hour, and only 3 beers in total works absolutely great) and ime there's no need to drink more than that I'd say as the effects of moderate drinking are so massively enhanced by the phenibut that the combo is not far short of the GBL experience, but the after effects are likely to be much worse if you drink heavily.

Phenibut seems to be one of those substances that is ideal for combos, and for massively enhancing the positive effects of w/e you are combining it with.

If you're looking for something non "drug" or substance related there is valerian root, which is a decent relaxant. There will be loads more, but that's all that I can think of, off the top of my head.
 
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Nothing new, but I think all substances that hit the gaba receptors, as alcohol does, can have broadly similar effects, (mood uplift, lowered inhibitions, relaxation and anxiety reduction, increased sociability etc) although there are huge differences when you look more closely at each individual substance, and obviously individuals reactions to every substance vary extremely widely.

I'd say that Soma is probably the substance most similar to alcohol that I've tried. It can give you that very alcohol-like 'swimmy headed' feeling like you had when you first started drinking. I much prefer it to alcohol, but I don't generally derive a huge amount of enjoyment from alcohol. If I've not drank for some time then some novel type of alcohol does give me a sense of well being, but tolerance to that effect quickly wears off ime.

Soma also attaches to the barbiturate receptor as well as the gaba receptor, so it definitely needs treating with a lot of caution.

Then there's all the other Gaba drugs like GBL (I find it way more euphoric than alcohol and so much better all round), benzos, altogether more functional, depending on the dose, pregabalin (individuals reactions to this substance vary enormously), phenibut (which remains legal to buy in the UK). I've only dabbled a few times with phenibut, and whilst I enjoy it very much the day I'm taking and the afterglow the day after, I get a strong feeling of anhedonia afterwards which lasts me for 7-10 days, which makes it a bad deal, with the toll to pay for the initial buzz too high and long lasting for it to be very sensible imho. I definitely find it mood destabalising, and although the after effects are nowhere near as severe as after a stim binge for example, the effect lasts much, much, longer ime.

I've found that phenibut combines incredibly well with moderate amounts of alcohol, (like 1 beer per hour, and only 3 beers in total works absolutely great) and ime there's no need to drink more than that I'd say as the effects of moderate drinking are so massively enhanced by the phenibut that the combo is not far short of the GBL experience, but the after effects are likely to be much worse if you drink heavily.

Phenibut seems to be one of those substances that is ideal for combos, and for massively enhancing the positive effects of w/e you are combining it with.

If you're looking for something non "drug" or substance related there is valerian root, which is a decent relaxant. There will be loads more, but that's all that I can think of, off the top of my head.
How does one get their hands on this Soma??
 
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