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Dissociatives ket belly

i don't have stomach problems with ket. infact the issue is that i get hungry on ket and need well-placed snacks to get me through
 
You must train your immune system to accept the K as a vitamin rather than a pathogen.
Hm... I mean, this is just totally deluded nonsense obviously.

It's also the solution to every single problem ever, substance oriented or not - just train yourself to accept the harmful thing as a healthy thing. Problem solved.
 
@JackARoe But, there's a context, my child. Man up and hear me out.

At the time of writing, there had been a flooding situation in my basement. The sump pump broke down, and water started to creep in at alarming rate from three corners. Not quite like a sinking ship, but all my electronics were in that basement, and the world needs me with a degree on my name. I'm doing this stuff online through another country so I can be flexible, but at the moment I did not figure that in, so it seemed the end was coming. In emergency situations protocol allows me to go upstairs and call for help from the woman who wished she had rather birthed a faithful daughter. She called the technician, but it was very early morning, we were looking at two hours of flooding. In the time I had between scooping up water with a snow shovel into a plastic storage box to be carried outside and tip over into the gutter, I scrambled to get the AI on my phone to teach me how to connect hose to a backup sump pump that didn't fit. It came up with putting the rubber two minutes in boiling water so I could get subtle and pliable, and yes, that way I was able to fit the damn thing in the backup sump pump. My mother, as stressed out as I was, took the opportunity to tell me how much she hated this situation, and me, and long story short, told me to go kill myself with my "drugs". Acid and ketamine aren't overdosable like she imagine them to be, but alcohol is, and that I was able to overdo. Which was the state I read your message in.

I've taken a couple of liberties with the story line so I don't have to write a book about it. But you get the gist of it.

@Vastness Why does drinking coffee make people live longer? Caffeine is a stimulant, which oxidized and damaged the body. Answer: because it comes packed with polyphenols. My hypothesis, even though ketamine is not a stimulant per se, which @JackARoe did not understand in very crucial circumstances (I have evidence if anyone cares to contact me about it), is that the same formula can be applied to it. But if bluelight is gonna be a cunt about it, I'm gonna release that final formula not on the MAPS forum, but on the MINDS forum which is in the process of starting up. What is that you say? Well maybe clever up a bit and someone might still wander in occasionally and update you about it. For fuck's sake..
 
I fuck up a lot. I really do. Exactly because I'm not content just to sit here and have faith someone or something else will solve my problems for me. Please understand, and be compassionate, even to perceived meaningless verbal violence. Which you are, since I'm apparently not banned.

Do change up your vocabulary a bit, @JackARoe. I've pointed out multiple times how your faith could use some fastidiousness. I've not always done so skillfully, so there's a lot of resentment packed with it on both our sides, which explains why you've been doubling down on resorting to it, and why I have been downright triggered by it. We both understand there's validity in there somewhere, just don't let the word get stale, will ya?

And @Vastness, well, you have your own problems. I don't think I can help you. You're just too vast a case I suppose.. ;p
 
Wait a minute.. one more thing.. making stuff up you say?

The whole reason I'm here is because I can speak the truth here, @JackARoe. And the whole reason you're still here is because I allowed you to stay here. I don't have evidence of that first faithless offense of yours, but, let me repeat, I DO have evidence of that clumsiness of yours that followed, pardon the understatement. Charlie, as opposed to the rest of the mod team, bothered to read it. And I'm glad he had at least a little chuckle at your complete ignorance about the things you decided to make a stance about with that godawful timing. I've had less hassle with the GODDMAN POLICE than with bluelight, go figurge.. And on top of that you had the UNBELIEVABLE temerity to tell me to my face I should be a good boy and listen to my MOTHER, that goddamn mentally ill old hag, of all people. That miserable stupid creature, who, AS WELL, was cold and demented enough to tell me to my face to kill myself.

So let me take your words to heart, and listen to her. I'll kill off this goddamn fucking forum persona, until you FINALLY have the GODDAMN FUCKING humanheartedness to apologize for what you did. Because you never did so explicitly, expecting me to just tiptoe around it.

Oh, is this lashing out of the blue again? Well, that's what my mother would have done. Take this as that act of listening to her.

Now SUCK IT UP, and APOLOGIZE to me in spite of how I rude I am being. It's EXACTLY what you asked for.

Forgiveness is not the same as forgetting.

I apologize for having been a drunk asshole to you, starting the whole thing off. You deserved none of that.

Your turn. Or you can keep your forum.

And again, nothing made up here. Any mod can DM for the same evidence of your backstabbery I showed Charlie, may he rest in peace.
 
Well if your talking about getting a beer belly than no, because Ketamine makes you lose weight. If your just talking about stomach discomfort than that's a different story.
 
I am done with you.
@Chris Timothy FYI. Otherwise

Will it go 'round in circles?
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky?
Will it go 'round in circles?
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky?

Take care of yourself. (and no that does not mean kill yourself dude, not my style. Means take care of your health)
 
And @Vastness, well, you have your own problems. I don't think I can help you.
Not really asking for help but I do indeed have many of my own problems.

The difference between ketamine and coffee in the example you gave is that no-one talks about having to "train" yourself to be able to benefit from the health benefits of coffee, before which it is just toxic, which is what you suggested was necessary with ketamine.

I feel like I maybe waded into something I lack understanding of the context of here though and could perhaps have refrained from commenting if I'd read more of this thread more closely but, gods, I just get so tired of all these random "hypotheses" that have no basis in anything really except the wish of the user of the substance to make their usage OK. And I mean, it is OK, it's fine, obviously. But it's fine without needing to pretend that it's actually physically healthy for you because of some inane apples-and-oranges "hypothesis" that contradicts known science.

It can be net healthy for other reasons, of course! The innate physical toxicity of ketamine might be offset by other long term positive lifestyle changes that it enables, in certain individuals. But, god damn it... if this is happening (which it must be somewhere, I'm sure of it!) I just never see anyone talking about that kinda shit convincingly on these forums. It's always vague nods towards mindset improvements with zero specifics, or these random hypotheses, and it most often seems to be discussions about dissos within which these flimsy ideas bounce around. It's not just you of course and again, given whatever else is going on here which I'm not party to I could probably have skipped commenting on that particular one in retrospect, but otherwise I think I'll continue to try to call out nonsense when I see it.

All the best to you though nonetheless, no disrespect intended, any disrespect inadvertently delivered, rescinded, as much as possible and without compromising on any of the other stuff I just said.
 
Quite the splendid moderation.

You're right to demand some evidence of my claims, and I've been dutifully working on it to the best of my abilities. Some surprises might be about to be made.

I've got a lot to rectify, and I'm going to be owning up to it.

But people all around have been setting up shop around my disclosures, so I'm trying to be minimal in my communication.
 
yes! ok so - ketamine is a fairly caustic hydrochloride salt! if you are snorting it, you NEED to spit out the drip if you are doing a lot of it. over time, that constant HCl drip down your throat will cause gastritis, irritating the sphincters on the entry and exit of your stomach. it's painful af and makes eating terrible. ive had it happen a few times. you gotta just lay off ket, and DEFINITELY not get it in your stomach. it's not good for linings of stomachs or bladders. -- if you are experiencing this from IM K, the only time i have seen such problems are when a batch was off, and had precursor or unreacted solvent or something else gross in it.
Are you confusing K cramps with gastritis? K can make you puke, but I've never had gastritis from it, even when I was doing 2g a day.
 
Are you confusing K cramps with gastritis? K can make you puke, but I've never had gastritis from it, even when I was doing 2g a day.
there are two separate things I have seen happen - certain people seem prone to organ pain, - both bladder and other organs, and alternately I have most certainly seen gastritis. i didn't start developing it until decades into using k, when it suddenly seemed to take a turn- and different batches seem to be better/worse on either front.
 
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