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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 8.0

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RecoveryInProgress said:
Similar symptoms I have/had. I have to put the work in and force myself to do pretty much everything and I notice it getting worse when I just feed into and not try so I would recommend trying to force yourself to do things and stick to a routine/schedule. If you’re noticing weight issues from it i recommend reducing your carb and sugar intake and sticking to more proteins and vegetables. Start with a daily routine that’s not stressful and slowly increase as you adjust.

Hope you get better soon and recover quickly!
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How many shots did you have my friend
 
lurker689 said:
I would much rather "hear voices" than have all the joy sucked from my life and become a dysfunctional, castrated vegetable.
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Honestly, I don't think this is a super controversial stance to have. I think it just is, in the west. Schizophrenia and psychosis are not the only causes of hearing voices, dissociative disorders can cause people to as well and psychiatric medication such as the ones discussed here are often prescribed for people with severe dissociative symptoms, to no effect.

For the most part it's accepted that people with dissociative disorders will continue to hear voices inside their heads. Even if Schizophrenia means that it's outside, as long as the person is able to recognise that it is not really happening and they aren't negatively impacted by hearing the voices at that stage, I think that's more than fair if people don't want to medicate those symptoms. People in many other countries do not.
 
bowandsparrow said:
I mean, I absolutely had issues. I've had two psychotic episodes. But since I don't have symptoms in my day to day life, it's better to work together with a psychiatrist so we can address my issues if they ever come up again, with a minimal amount of medication if necessary. That's an entirely different situation than being injected with a disabling dose of medication by a doctor who's spent two five minute sessions with me in an ER.
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bowandsparrow said:
Hard to say, tbh. Nobody's really sure whether weed causes psychotic episodes or just activates mental issues that were dormant.
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dontGiveUp said:
Weed definitely causes psychosis, I've known loads of people to get psychosis from continually using it. The ones who are fine use it once in a while, like monthly at a party...

Too high a proportion of people get psychosis from it, if you are one who has experienced it, just stop using it. You would be an unbelievable fool to do otherwise.

Some people are just stupid though so this falls on all types of ears.
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Weed *can* trigger psychosis. But it's detrimental to pretend it is doing anything more than that. @bowandsparrow is correct, in that it's generally accepted that if someone has a genetic predisposition to having psychosis, weed can trigger it if someone smoked very heavily. Teenage males who smoke heavily have an increased chance of it.

I was told my whole life of I smoked too much weed I would get schizophrenia/psychosis because of it. When I started hearing voices in my late teens, I assumed it was that.

Eventually I got incorrectly diagnosed with bipolar with psychosis, and put on *heaps* of strong psychiatric medication i did not need. And I've had labels slapped on me for treatment by psychiatrists in the hospital after a 10 minute conversation, which again as Bowandsparrow mentioned, is just completely unacceptable.

Since coming off psych meds, I've even been put on CBD oil daily and actually medical marijuana. I smoke every night and it's the most effective medication for sleep I have been on.

I still hear voices, but I'm actually able to live with them now. I heard them when I was on the psychiatric medication anyway because it never helped, so why stay on any more than necessary?

I agreed with my psychiatrist if I had an episode coming off, or have one, I'll go back on the meds.

But I'm perfectly happy with the situation I'm currently in and I think it's completely reasonable for other people who hear voices to do the same *if they are able to cope with it*

Obviously, if someone got psychosis from weed it would be extremely bad for them to continue to use it, with meth, I get psychosis whenever I use it (although I try to avoid it) so I can understand the same being true for people with weed.
 
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cmf77 said:
I can't believe that there are so many people who have had so much more invega than I have and they are gloating about recovery. I'm sitting here house bound and pacing constantly. I did get my mri results back. Apparently my pineal and pituitary glands are depressed. You can see that there is no connection whatsoever to the frontal lobes and the hypothalamus. I met somebody by chance that says they can help me. All the people who have said that invega is permanent will say differently comma but I have to trust this man as he is my last hope.
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Can you please share what regimen he is putting you on? Would love to hear about it
 
Hello everyone, just wanted to share my story so far for some new ppl. I used to be pretty active in here with updates, but I’ve since stopped with updating consistently. I do think I posted an update last month sometime though.

So, I was put on invega after a pretty intense BP1 manic episode. Within the first month, I became a vegetable, an empty shell, I gained weight, & i found joy in absolutely nothing. I took 8 or so shots, & just kept hoping it would get better.

I thought about suicide every waking moment that whole time. I couldnt function sexually, emotionally, logically, all of the things that make one human. Everything was so dreadfully boring, I never thought I’d find another thing that would entertain me. I didn’t care about anything, myself, others, nothing at all.

After that 8th shot, I realized that this wasn’t a feeling that I could wait out, & that I needed to stop immediately. This forum gave me an outlet, & some hope for the future.

It was a very slow, gradual & long road, that im not 100% done crossing, but now, 15 months later, I’m mostly recovered. I got my humor back, my wit (though I think there’s still a tiny bit to recover there tbh), there’s no anhedonia or akathisia left, & I’m getting back to living life.

I’ve reconnected with old friends, made new ones, and even met this girl, who is wonderful, & we’ve been together since late July. We truly love eachother, & its nice to feel that again.

A few weeks ago, on my birthday, we were doing a little drinking, & started talking about some deep mental health stuff, & i cried, for the first time in a long time. Since then I’ve almost cried two times, so I think its safe to say I can feel the full range of emotions again.

Once again, I have hope for my future. Hang in there, guys.
 
Listened to the new Sufjan Stevens album and I was hoping it would give me chills and I got no chills. :( It's a beautiful album, but I didn't really feel it in my body and mind that much and that makes me sad. His work is really emotional and it used to fill and overwhelm me.

It's dangerous to take drugs that desensitize serotonin receptors when you're a sensitive person. If you react to substances like I used to, just say no if you can. I should l have never taken a pill known to cause emotional blunting. I thought just 10mg was safe and I wouldn't get blunting, even though I was already blunted!
 
InvegaAnon said:
Listened to the new Sufjan Stevens album and I was hoping it would give me chills and I got no chills. :( It's a beautiful album, but I didn't really feel it in my body and mind that much and that makes me sad. His work is really emotional and it used to fill and overwhelm me.

It's dangerous to take drugs that desensitize serotonin receptors when you're a sensitive person. If you react to substances like I used to, just say no if you can. I should l have never taken a pill known to cause emotional blunting. I thought just 10mg was safe and I wouldn't get blunting, even though I was already blunted!
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i took abilify for 1 month almost after invega to lower prolactin since then med free other than the once a month before appointment having to take wellbutrin to prove to the community treatment order pig fuckers that im taking meds they piss test me to check in the lab
 
Guys I’m going on Effexor in two months to try to up my dopamine levels. Has anyone had any success using antidepressants? I know @bowandsparrow said Wellbutrin helped them
 
paliperidonevictim2005 said:
i took abilify for 1 month almost after invega to lower prolactin since then med free other than the once a month before appointment having to take wellbutrin to prove to the community treatment order pig fuckers that im taking meds they piss test me to check in the lab
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I'm so lucky being on antipsychotics isn't on my CTO. I just have to keep taking guanfacine, which I haven't been because I think it was impacting my sexual dysfunction.

Speaking of which, I woke up with a little more sensation today and I enhanced that with a small amount of weed. I got a nice window out of it and had an almost normal orgasm. That gives me so much hope! If I can induce a window like this reliably, I could tolerate living like this for years. But weed is kinda bad for PSSD, I should limit it to twice a month.
 
InvegaAnon said:
I'm so lucky being on antipsychotics isn't on my CTO. I just have to keep taking guanfacine, which I haven't been because I think it was impacting my sexual dysfunction.

Speaking of which, I woke up with a little more sensation today and I enhanced that with a small amount of weed. I got a nice window out of it and had an almost normal orgasm. That gives me so much hope! If I can induce a window like this reliably, I could tolerate living like this for years. But weed is kinda bad for PSSD, I should limit it to twice a month.
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just give it more time you will be fine
 
InvegaAnon said:
I'm so lucky being on antipsychotics isn't on my CTO. I just have to keep taking guanfacine, which I haven't been because I think it was impacting my sexual dysfunction.

Speaking of which, I woke up with a little more sensation today and I enhanced that with a small amount of weed. I got a nice window out of it and had an almost normal orgasm. That gives me so much hope! If I can induce a window like this reliably, I could tolerate living like this for years. But weed is kinda bad for PSSD, I should limit it to twice a month.
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why you say weed bad for pssd?
 
Been having dreams everytime I sleep for a month or more. Recently they have been very surreal and not very enjoyable. I would like to just sleep without these weird ass situations that feel like maybe are actually happening. Last night I was driving in my car saw another car hit and push another car into a garage area, 3 men hopped out and murdered another man while he was still in the car. I hopped out with 2 buddies and these 3 men then noticed us and gave me cigarettes that kept breaking as I was trying to smoke them. Last thing I remember before waking up back to torture. Going to sleep now hopefully I can just rest without these weird/very real feeling events.
 
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