What about that Andrew Tate eh?

[Jackal]

Tate needs fucking and burning. And his fucking brother - he's like some camp Hi-de-Hi version of Top-G.

Indeed.

Methinks they live like greeks

 

[elgoucho9]

Rumble most popular global streamers by peak viewership 2023 | Statista

As of June 2022, the British social media personality Andrew Tate ranked first as the most popular Rumble streamer, with its broadcasting reaching 433 thousand viewers at its peak.

www.statista.com

Interesting to see AT is now seeing around 430,000 views for each of his Rumble podcasts. I believe his Youtube podcasts attracted millions of viewers. I'm not sure if this is because using Rumble requires viewers to install an app. If so, it suggests that the majority of viewers were more casually viewing his stuff.

On a personal level, I'm not convinced that such apps are secure so wouldn't install one. After all, supply-chain attacks are now commonplace and having to go through the Apple Store, Google Store or similar makes said supply-chain rather long.

That said, I don't suppose that Rumble viewers would represent a demographic worth a cyber attack. Truth Social would appear to be a more likely target.

I tried to get rumble when a friend sent me something to view, and for some reason or other wouldn't work on my phone. Seems like a poorly designed app.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

Again on the whole he is not a role model and I'm convinced he is an agent of chaos, there specifically to stir up further division in society.

My friend is bi and wise as fuck but as hes bi hes gotten tricked by Tate and thinks hes something of a special lad in a positive way. Legit agent of chaos that Tate lad.

Kinda funny how people who hate capitalism can still adore some1 on it...

 

[Shady's Fox]

AlsoTapered is Charlie Chaplin ressurected.

 

[AlsoTapered]

I've previously stated all of the dubious businesses the Tate's have been involved in. But the investigating magistrate will set a court date within the next 45 days or so and if it goes to trial, as Romanian law prescribes, the entire trial will be webcast so we will be able to see all of the evidence.

Romanian justice does not employ a jury. A single judge decides if the evidence presented proves guilt beyond reasonable doubt. I'm not entirely certain of all the charges but tax evasion over €100,000 alone is punishable by a term if imprisonment and as part of an organized criminal organization, a much longer term.

It seems like people haven't explored the full list of crimes - it's quite sizable.

 

[elgoucho9]

My friend is bi and wise as fuck but as hes bi hes gotten tricked by Tate and thinks hes something of a special lad in a positive way. Legit agent of chaos that Tate lad.

Kinda funny how people who hate capitalism can still adore some1 on it...

I honestly think both Tate and Brand are being used by the media as agents of chaos.

People are so caught up in whether either of them are good guys or bad guys, it's all very divisive and black and white.

They could be good guys who did some bad shit. Or bad guys who did some good shit. It's really immaterial. What matters is people are talking about it, and not talking about the fact that's the second US president in a row to be impeached. Or the fact they're trying to restrict freedom of movement in the UK. Or Jeffrey Epstein's client list (ie the whole world being run by an elite group of people who hate you..), things that actually affect you.

 

[AlsoTapered]

I honestly think both Tate and Brand are being used by the media as agents of chaos.

People are so caught up in whether either of them are good guys or bad guys, it's all very divisive and black and white.

They could be good guys who did some bad shit. Or bad guys who did some good shit. It's really immaterial. What matters is people are talking about it, and not talking about the fact that's the second US president in a row to be impeached. Or the fact they're trying to restrict freedom of movement in the UK. Or Jeffrey Epstein's client list (ie the whole world being run by an elite group of people who hate you..), things that actually affect you.

I think you give the media too much credit - they are in the business of gaining and maintaining viewers/readers.

It's also worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of the world isn't interested in either story. That majority in which English isn't spoken or isn't the first language.

 

[elgoucho9]

I think you give the media too much credit - they are in the business of gaining and maintaining viewers/readers.

It's also worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of the world isn't interested in either story. That majority in which English isn't spoken or isn't the first language.

With all due respect my friend I disagree. I think many people underestimate how rigged the whole thing is.

Plenty of people were definitely interested in both stories. Tate was trending top of several social media platforms, seems to cause fierce debates everywhere, even this thread has probably one of the most traffic in EADD right now...

It's all hot news and sells papers. I'd be willing to bet both Tate's trial date and the news about Russel brand sells more papers than usual. It's the type of news everyone has an opinion on and opens discussions/arguments everywhere. Which to me would signify people are interested.

Obviously say Asia is not interested. But short of natural disasters or war threats we don't exactly hear alot about what's going on over there either. Tate for instance still big news in the Middle East, Mexico, South America even. Cos he has supporters and haters everywhere.

 

[AlsoTapered]

We aren't disagreeing - the media will cover the story that increases their circulation and allow them to maximize profits via advertising. They are acting out of self-interest.

But it's not as if the topics you touched on are being ignored by the media but if their is nothing new to report, they can hardly run a story. Mass media is all about fresh meat.

So someone who uses their podcasts to repudiate the media are in fact providing the fresh meat.

If I were advising either of them, it would be to carry on as normal and not to react. That being the case, the media would soon lose interest.

Attacking the media is absolutely the way to remain in their spotlight. No need for a conspiracy. They get to keep the story alive and sell lots of ads. It's cheaper and easier to do that than to investigate a new story from scratch.

Anyone who mistakes the media for a body that acts in the best interests of the public is sadly mistaken. Murdoch is an example of someone who forced his media outlets to follow his own political position and just look at the media outlets he owns.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

tate is a evil fuck. Literally 99% of men are brainwashed in my country into his cult.

A romanian ex mafia member, was telling me tate runs casinos money laundering shit loads of money for the mafia and was trying to become president of Romania. He is linked to mafia brothels across europe that traffick women that even the police can not link him to. he is involved heavily in mutiple eastern europe gangs and crimminal organizations and those other men who live with him are heavily involved in very high level organized crime across eastern europe.

The war room is a massive scam where people pay 100k to get a photo with tate.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

Anyone who mistakes the media for a body that acts in the best interests of the public is sadly mistaken.

Generally speaking this and the idea that what media tells is somehow "true" seem to be the biggest mistakes involving media. I had ex-coworker work as a journalist back in the 70s who wrote a story about Murdoch visiting Finland.

 

[AlsoTapered]

Generally speaking this and the idea that what media tells is somehow "true" seem to be the biggest mistakes involving media. I had ex-coworker work as a journalist back in the 70s who wrote a story about Murdoch visiting Finland.

To be fair, I imagine the story concerning Murdoch visiting Finland was factually accurate. Of no interest to anyone but happened. I'm guessing said unfortunate journalist worked for one of Murdoch's media concerns. To be fair, at least it would be an easy story to research since the subject would supply even the most trivial, dull, pointless detail.

I don't know anything beyond the fact that their are are a total of 13 indictments against AT based on 300 pages of statements and evidence. I know that 300,000 euros in bitcoins recovered which is why I highlighted the charges of tax evasion and money laundering.

The Romanian media have suggested connections with Romanian casinos owned by two brothers (Mihăiță and Sorin Doroftei) who have been accused of belonging to an organized criminal group. The casinos simply announced that they had severed 'all ties with the Tate brothers' and have said NOTHING ELSE.

 

[elgoucho9]

We aren't disagreeing - the media will cover the story that increases their circulation and allow them to maximize profits via advertising. They are acting out of self-interest.

But it's not as if the topics you touched on are being ignored by the media but if their is nothing new to report, they can hardly run a story. Mass media is all about fresh meat.

So someone who uses their podcasts to repudiate the media are in fact providing the fresh meat.

If I were advising either of them, it would be to carry on as normal and not to react. That being the case, the media would soon lose interest.

Attacking the media is absolutely the way to remain in their spotlight. No need for a conspiracy. They get to keep the story alive and sell lots of ads. It's cheaper and easier to do that than to investigate a new story from scratch.

Anyone who mistakes the media for a body that acts in the best interests of the public is sadly mistaken. Murdoch is an example of someone who forced his media outlets to follow his own political position and just look at the media outlets he owns.

Very articulately put, mate.

I imagine aswell there's a certain level of people the reporters who work for the media ste told not to go after, or just plain know better than to fuck with. As the old saying goes stick your head above the parapit and have it chopped off.

Agreed about the podcasters providing fresh meat. Brand in particular being a prime example there, low hanging fruit springs to mind.

As a mere citizen myself, if I were in the public spotlight, it would seem like tempting fate to have a go at either the mainstream media, or the government, which also says alot about the times we live in. Free speech is under serious threat.

Generally speaking this and the idea that what media tells is somehow "true" seem to be the biggest mistakes involving media. I had ex-coworker work as a journalist back in the 70s who wrote a story about Murdoch visiting Finland.

Real talk this. Call me sceptical but anytime I see a story in the media these days I'm instantly trying to read between the lines thinking what's their angle here.

 

[elgoucho9]

To be fair, I imagine the story concerning Murdoch visiting Finland was factually accurate. Of no interest to anyone but happened. I'm guessing said unfortunate journalist worked for one of Murdoch's media concerns. To be fair, at least it would be an easy story to research since the subject would supply even the most trivial, dull, pointless detail.

I don't know anything beyond the fact that their are are a total of 13 indictments against AT based on 300 pages of statements and evidence. I know that 300,000 euros in bitcoins recovered which is why I highlighted the charges of tax evasion and money laundering.

The Romanian media have suggested connections with Romanian casinos owned by two brothers (Mihăiță and Sorin Doroftei) who have been accused of belonging to an organized criminal group. The casinos simply announced that they had severed 'all ties with the Tate brothers' and have said NOTHING ELSE.

Tate himself had boasted on social media about buying into Romanian Casinos. Saying he had to essentially bribe mafia boss figures with an offer of 50% of the return from the Casino. This was during covid and they didn't believe a profit, which was why he bragged about it at the time I guess, but also now it lends credit to the idea he was money laundering.

 

[AlsoTapered]

In the cases of RB and the Tates, they ARE low-hanging fruit because they don't recognise how the media OR the criminal justice systems work. I've mentioned how the media works but just like any other government agency, law enforcement has budgets. If someone provides a vast number of leads via their own podcasts, they simply make an investigation easier and cheaper.

I've mentioned this somewhere else regarding Melissa Carghill. She was most likely the chemist who actually made all of the LSD that Owsley bragged about making. She's never been arrested let alone charged because she just disappeared before the US police took an interest.

Owsley was ideal because he wanted to brag about everything he did and to take all of the credit. Sound like anyone recently?

So she was last sighted in about 2014 - she wasn't dead. But she was able to just quietly disappear and the few people she remained in contact with aren't talking (although under US law I imagine she couldn't be charged now anyway).

I suspect if those Romanian brothers are involved in illegal activity, they will have ensured the Tates are connected because that way they can do what MC did. Quietly take the money and leave.

As you also pointed out, if those Romanians are involved, that nation's media isn't about to push too hard to uncover the facts - it's not good for the health.

 

[elgoucho9]

What you're saying with Cargill there, that's the real boss move. Being able to commit the crime, tell no one, fly under the radar and not suffer the consequences.

Self snitching is a thing for sure, particularly in the times we live in. Drill rappers are a good example, then obviously because the rappers in the music industry are doing it all the idiot kids follow suit.

I think re the romanian situation, the Tate's really are in there with powerful people. They had to be to get out of prison and off house arrest. I get the impression no matter what happens the trial will be unjust, because neither side is playing fair. The prosecution will be heavily influenced by the international community who want to see Tate jailed for speaking out against the establishment, the defence will be influenced by the Romanian's the Tate's are associated with, who are most likley high level criminals/wealthy and corrupt powerful people in their country. Will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

My friend is bi and wise as fuck but as hes bi hes gotten tricked by Tate and thinks hes something of a special lad in a positive way. Legit agent of chaos that Tate lad.

Kinda funny how people who hate capitalism can still adore some1 on it...

There are also people who hate capitalism who think tate is a clown tricking young men on the internet. Young men on the internet who might also hate capitalism. None of these things are necessarily mutually exclusive

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

Yeah, being wise doesnt make you not human. And being human is to err, or however you say it.

 

[AlsoTapered]

What you're saying with Cargill there, that's the real boss move. Being able to commit the crime, tell no one, fly under the radar and not suffer the consequences.

Self snitching is a thing for sure, particularly in the times we live in. Drill rappers are a good example, then obviously because the rappers in the music industry are doing it all the idiot kids follow suit.

I think re the romanian situation, the Tate's really are in there with powerful people. They had to be to get out of prison and off house arrest. I get the impression no matter what happens the trial will be unjust, because neither side is playing fair. The prosecution will be heavily influenced by the international community who want to see Tate jailed for speaking out against the establishment, the defence will be influenced by the Romanian's the Tate's are associated with, who are most likley high level criminals/wealthy and corrupt powerful people in their country. Will be interesting to see what happens.

I don't credit the Tates with the intelligence to do half the stuff they are accused of. But I don't credit Owsley with the ability to make LSD. But how many people even knew MC exists?

The Tates would have been a godsend to the various organized criminal groups in Romania. People who are dumb enough to THINK they are in charge, to self-incriminate to a frankly insane level and to draw attention away from others.

I noted somewhere earlier in the thread that it wasn't a normal police unit that arrested the Tates. It's a specialist unit, paramilitary in fact, whose remit is in dealing with organized crime. I suggest that someone in command saw an international case as a way to uncover the extensive corruption within the regular Romanian police force and judiciary. The fact that the Tates keep the story in the media would be to their advantage as well.

Obviously that's mostly speculation on my part but I took the trouble to watch the arrest video and identify that it wasn't police officers - it was more or less the Romanian SAS.

 

[elgoucho9]

I don't credit the Tates with the intelligence to do half the stuff they are accused of. But I don't credit Owsley with the ability to make LSD. But how many people even knew MC exists?

The Tates would have been a godsend to the various organized criminal groups in Romania. People who are dumb enough to THINK they are in charge, to self-incriminate to a frankly insane level and to draw attention away from others.

I noted somewhere earlier in the thread that it wasn't a normal police unit that arrested the Tates. It's a specialist unit, paramilitary in fact, whose remit is in dealing with organized crime. I suggest that someone in command saw an international case as a way to uncover the extensive corruption within the regular Romanian police force and judiciary. The fact that the Tates keep the story in the media would be to their advantage as well.

Obviously that's mostly speculation on my part but I took the trouble to watch the arrest video and identify that it wasn't police officers - it was more or less the Romanian SAS.

There's potential the Tates are infact being controlled by said crime groups, or other powerful Romanian people.

I would imagine because of potential association with powerful people in Romania, they would special forces to arrest them. They will be presumed as organised criminals/people traffickers so it makes sense.

As an interesting side note he seems to have massive support in Romania. Big crowds of people outside the prison cheering upon their release.