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Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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lurker689 said:
No one here is mentaly ill. How can you even have the audacity to accuse people suffering from AP damage of mental illness? No amount of pills is gonna repair this cause it's caused by brain damage. Also, dwelling here is harmless. We're here because we're miserable, not the other way around.
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These threads are full of people who were forcefully injected in mental hospitals, of course there are mentally ill people in here! I'm mentally ill! I saw multiple people with paranoid delusions when I was lurking. Like, they were talking about being a "targeted individual", part of the gangstalking conspiracy theory I know about. That conspiracy theory is pure schizophrenia in my opinion, as someone who studied psychology in college and is interested in becoming an art therapist if I ever go back to school. I thought fascists were going to kill me and everyone was an actor trying to hurt me, I know exactly what a paranoid delusion is. The reddit about it is full of people who are simply paranoid. Half of them exhibit disorganized thought, which is a common schizophrenia symptom. If I didn't have psychology knowledge, I probably would have believed in the conspiracy too and fallen into that delusion.

I'm not going to reply here until I have updates if this is how I'm going to be treated. Personally, I'm on the upswing although I'm dealing with a surge in anxiety and almost had another psychotic episode. I am recovering. Just trying to add hope to a hopeless place. I'm sorry everyone is going through this. I'm pretty sure I have PTSD from this whole thing, I'm not unmarked. I'm also worried about it worsening my mental disorders.

If you don't want to take more drugs, at least try therapy. I'm in therapy.

Finding stuff to look forward to has helped me too. I'm going to try to see the Barbie movie and I'm going to play a game with my friends today. :3

I'm not going to reply here until I have updates if this is how I'm going to be treated. Personally, I'm on the upswing although I'm dealing with a surge in anxiety and almost had another psychotic episode. I am recovering. Just trying to add hope to a hopeless place. I'm sorry everyone is going through this. I'm pretty sure I have PTSD from this whole thing, I'm not unmarked. I'm also worried about it worsening my mental disorders. Still, I feel better every day.

If you don't want to take more drugs, at least try therapy. I'm in therapy. Honestly, I'm just trying to help. Remember to love and support each other here. Peace out for real, I'm blocking this website until I have updates. Do not talk to me, I'm done.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
Microglia help replace broken synapses and receptors either themselves or by sending inflammatory messages to neurons, then neurons replace it themselves. But while invega is active in your system, microglias are also suppressed to some degree.
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So it's all about whether you have invega in your blood or not? Have you checked your blood to see how much paliperidone you have? This possibility is not offered anywhere in my country.
 
masamune1 said:
it would be reasonable at this stage to think about other possibilities that are likelier than the injection.
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No, since even when there is 0% invega in my blood it can still be in the brain since antagonism lasts long and broken/damaged receptors take time to be replaced. About brain shrinkage that also takes time to be reversed. Me recovering ~10% every 5 months is proof it just takes long.
 
Keep in mind, a lot of non-diagnosed (especially religious) people have smaller delusions nowadays (paranoia is also a delusion), these delusions are often unnoticeable or buried deep down.

Since schizophrenia doesn't exist and there are only delusions which is only valid symptom of psychosis, there's nothing more to psychosis than delusions which is purely psychological issue, an error in your mental process which you are responsible for, this is good news since it means you can rid of that issue and never have it again.

I might start a company which helps people to resolve delusions just by speaking with them.
 
I'm thankful for recovering 10% every 5 months, it might seem a little, but in reality it's not a small amount. At 4 years off, mathematically, I should be 100%.
 
After you recover 10%, it's likely feeling negative emotions will become noticeable but weak. At 10% you'll be able to have positive experiences to a very minimal degree.

Between 10-20% you'll be able to be social and go out with friends and party. You'll still hate waiting or staying at same place for too long, so add some dynamic.

Being 10-20% will make watching 90% of TV content be like torture, and you'll build tolerance to it fast, the same goes for music.
 
Invega can not completely turn off serotonergic-dopaminergic system, from reaching a scientific research I saw it can turn it off - over 90% of these systems, and it's said that it's supposed to do that. From my research and reading this forum & documenting my recovery, it can block up to ~99.9% which is close to zero but still not zero.

Difference between 100% and 0.1% is literally x1000, I can say I was 0.1% at beginning and the difference indeed is x10 when I reached 1% recovery.
 
Bro I cant believe it will be like that. How do you measure 10% recovery? Its not like that. Ive seen people recover and it wasn’t gradual nor lineal. It was espontaneous.
 
You dont loose everything gradual or lineal, you just loose it one you try the med. Recovery should follow the same rule
 
Rulomaner said:
You dont loose everything gradual or lineal, you just loose it one you try the med. Recovery should follow the same rule
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lol you’re literally listening to a guy who says schizophrenia isn’t real? Like, I don’t listen to him at all.
 
InvegaAnon said:
These threads are full of people who were forcefully injected in mental hospitals, of course there are mentally ill people in here! I'm mentally ill! I saw multiple people with paranoid delusions when I was lurking. Like, they were talking about being a "targeted individual", part of the gangstalking conspiracy theory I know about. That conspiracy theory is pure schizophrenia in my opinion, as someone who studied psychology in college and is interested in becoming an art therapist if I ever go back to school. I thought fascists were going to kill me and everyone was an actor trying to hurt me, I know exactly what a paranoid delusion is. The reddit about it is full of people who are simply paranoid. Half of them exhibit disorganized thought, which is a common schizophrenia symptom. If I didn't have psychology knowledge, I probably would have believed in the conspiracy too and fallen into that delusion.

I'm not going to reply here until I have updates if this is how I'm going to be treated. Personally, I'm on the upswing although I'm dealing with a surge in anxiety and almost had another psychotic episode. I am recovering. Just trying to add hope to a hopeless place. I'm sorry everyone is going through this. I'm pretty sure I have PTSD from this whole thing, I'm not unmarked. I'm also worried about it worsening my mental disorders.

If you don't want to take more drugs, at least try therapy. I'm in therapy.

Finding stuff to look forward to has helped me too. I'm going to try to see the Barbie movie and I'm going to play a game with my friends today. :3

I'm not going to reply here until I have updates if this is how I'm going to be treated. Personally, I'm on the upswing although I'm dealing with a surge in anxiety and almost had another psychotic episode. I am recovering. Just trying to add hope to a hopeless place. I'm sorry everyone is going through this. I'm pretty sure I have PTSD from this whole thing, I'm not unmarked. I'm also worried about it worsening my mental disorders. Still, I feel better every day.

If you don't want to take more drugs, at least try therapy. I'm in therapy. Honestly, I'm just trying to help. Remember to love and support each other here. Peace out for real, I'm blocking this website until I have updates. Do not talk to me, I'm done.
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Being forcefully injected with an AP is no indication of mental illness. Injustices happen all the time amd people are misdiagnosed everywhere, specially if it's an abusive parent trying to control their "difficult" children with drugs, among other circumnstances. BTW, i wouldn't take the word of reddit or forums like these where anyone can easily create a fake account and impersonate delusional thinking to make the rest of the people look bad. Which happens more often than we'd like to admit. Take everything with a grain of salt. Therapy is useless cause it won't heal the damage given to us by these drugs, same thing goes to drugs, which may even make things get worse. Also, you don't have PTSD from this, man up and stop trying to find diseases to have.
 
Baddream said:
The proof is the multiple recovery stories and the official information by the manufacturers that it doesn’t last forever. If it did nobody would suffer a relapse. Don’t pay too much attention to the horror stories. They are usually very pessimistic and hypocondriac people.

I read the other posts from the one redditor you sent me. He is completely nuts. Totally toxic posts about killing people, conspiracies and other bizarre subjects.

Don’t forget that these kind of forums attract some very disturbed people, there are some really toxic personalities out there. They give this drug mostly to people with severe mental issues.

You will make your suffering worse if you keep thinking negatively. Every negative symptom I had had improved, slowly but surely. This drug is powerful potent it takes time to heal. But I don’t see any reason why it doesn’t or it would be frontpage news
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That’s a whole lot of evidence you provided
 
Rulomaner said:
Schizophrenia is not real, lol
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What even is schizophrenia? There is nothing to indicate that it's real. Usually it's a collection of tropes and cliches that we collect over time, sometimes supported by hollywood cinema. But in truth there is no such thing as schizophrenia, we don't even know what it is. Can we see schizophrenia on an autopsy table? What indicates someone has it? Are there degrees? If you diagnose schizophrenia by hearsay from parents or vague criteria then how is it any different from astrology or MBTI?
 
lurker689 said:
What even is schizophrenia? There is nothing to indicate that it's real. Usually it's a collection of tropes and cliches that we collect over time, sometimes supported by hollywood cinema. But in truth there is no such thing as schizophrenia, we don't even know what it is. Can we see schizophrenia on an autopsy table? What indicates someone has it? Are there degrees? If you diagnose schizophrenia by hearsay from parents or vague criteria then how is it any different from astrology or MBTI?
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With any of the mental illness they go off of behaviors usually, not by brain scans or anything technical like that usually. You can argue that with any mental illness. Mostly it’s done through interviews and questionnaires to be diagnosed with things so technically there is a lot of times you can obviously say something and it will be misinterpreted hence for a misdiagnosis to occur.
 
Can't imagine it's permanent in my case. I'm doing well at six months and I'm bound to be doing better after a year.
 
t_xeplionhell said:
High chance they won't know shit, they'll likely tell you to take more invega or antidepressants.

Many people here did ask and similar things happened.

Go talk with someone who works on producing organic/chemical compounds, who is good in neurochemistry or biochemistry.
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I’ve went to many doctors and most of them will try to prescribe other antipsychotics. There are some doctors though that prescribe medication that has helped me. I’m on a mood stabilizer and an anti anxiety medication. Both have helped tremendously. I recommend seeing many doctors and finding one that doesn’t prescribe antipsychotics.
 
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