Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Does anybody else want to share their experience with psychosis? Mine wasn’t just an episode, I was paranoid for months until I started acting on those false delusions. Was not drug induced. When I got hospitalized, I realized how silly those delusions were, but I suffered a relapse and am afraid to relapse again after the meds wear out. It’s hard to imagine now that I’ll fall back into psychosis, because I realize it’s just paranoia. But I have said that before and am worried about the future.

My pranoia was mostly about government surveillance, like Edward Snowden and people conspiring against me. It got so bad where I believed random people were out to hurt me in some way. Why did this happen to me? Is it trauma? Genetic? Stress?
I realized my delusions were false but Stull fell back into them in my 2nd psychosis. Not as many or as bad as the first time, I didn't believe that my brother was alive and trying to find me anymore ect., but enough to be nonfunctional.


The buildup to my first psychosis took about 8 months, with strange behavior really manifesting in the last month or two. I had similar feelings of paranoia, i thought i was under military surveillance and that everything i did was a signal they could read, for example if i had a random thought to smash my coffee pot on the pavement outside they would understand the meaning of that, and so i would make it a point to follow any such urge. At first it felt good because the people watching me were my "friends", but just as in my subsequent psychoses, eventually all of these feelings turned negative. I think entering my subsequent psychosis happened because of these initial good and powerful spiritual feelings.

At the end i believed that my mother was either working for or a body double of Nancy Pelosi, and that my childhood home and my friends' apartments were just fronts that they showed while they went off to live luxurious lives and scorn my while i wasnt around. That my brother wasnt really dead but instead was trying to hyde from me, and that he, my other brother and his girlfriend were working together and could switch heads and spent their time laughing and mocking me from just out of sight. That typos that i would make on my phone and keyboard were secret comms from my inner self. Among other things.

Ive mentioned before that i was following an online source that pushed messages that i took as gospel at the time. Among actual gospel would be messages like "nothing is coincidence" and "everything has meaning". Spiritually consuming these messages and trying to live them out were, i think, at least part of why the whole thing got so bad.


How can I ensure it doesn’t happen again when I’m off meds?

Kaatrinas post has been helpful, I would appreciate if more people would like to share. I do have an appointment with my therapist to resolve these issues, but he keeps pushing meds.
theres no way to ensure it. I think you should be asking yourself - how long can i live normally and functionally between episodes? Can i work with a psych to make an action plan so that i know i can be taken to hospital and what will be given to me in hospital to help allieviate the fear of that happening? How long before i come out of it on my own once in care? Once you know the answers to these questions i think you can answer the question of whether it is a good trade off for you to live for the rest of your life on these meds.

if your therapist keeps pushing meds , you should find a new therapist. I told my therapist that I had a psych to talk about medication with. A therapist can't even prescribe meds, so perhaps you are talking to a psychologist, who doesn't do therapy but is just a living pillbox.

freud says that psychoses are manifestations of prelingual and precognitive communications of things and ideas that our psyche has suppressed. Can you think of anything that your psyche may have suppressed? I couldnt, but after therapy i really started to realize a lot of what I had gone through that I didn't or refused to before. I think this really helped to relieve pressure points on my psyche that was bearing that repressed suffering.

Aren’t you afraid to be doomed to a life full of psychosis without meds? I fear that way more than the side effects of invega. How can I ensure the stability of my mental health without meds? You think taking meds for short periods is a solution?
In my case, I only experience it once every two years and get to live a normal life otherwise. There is no guarantee that your life will be "full" of psychosis unless you see that pattern actually happening in your life. Every psych , like my first one, will tell you that if you aren't on meds you will always be psychotic. This is a lie. Psychosis recedes, just like depression. Psychs treat depression in the same way - a lifetime treatment with derogatory physical and mental effects to treat a temporary symptom.

My first psych told me that if I didn't stay on invega sustenna I would kill my own children. You need to trust yourself first and foremost.

I know you've said it isn't a problem, but you do mention alcohol quite often and I just want to say that alcoholism and alcoholic withdrawal can cause psychosis. I am only pointing this out because it seems like you were at a place where you are trying to explore the causes of what happened to you.
 
I'll put it this way- at the frequency I have entered psychosis, taking APs every day would be similar to continuing chemotherapy when my cancer is in remission because of a high chance of recurrence.

The cost to the body is too great, so I plan for treatment upon recurrence.
 
How long do y’all think I should wait before attempting to come off Lithium Carbonate again? I tried to come off of it in February but it was starting to affect me negatively to say the least. I hope it doesn’t fuck up my kidneys if I tried to come off of it again
This absolutely is a question for your current prescribing doctor. No one here is a doctor so no one here can safely advise you on this, especially with respect to your kidney function.

They will have very long report to read from me.
I can imagine. Are you going to contact them?? I really hope you do.

I would take psychosis over invega sustenna any day.
I have heard a LOT of people say that over the course of these Invega threads. You are not alone in the way you feel <3

It’s around $600 for 4 and a half hours. They will try to convince you to take the $1,000 version for 8 hours, but I wanted to see if I could make it for 4 and a half hours first. They said after 4 times I should see a noticeable difference.
I am really, really interested to hear how it goes for you. Please continue to update us on your experiences with it <3

I think it’s awesome that’s you are trying this
I completely agree!!! I've been very curious about how NAD treatment can help Invega recovery.
 
This absolutely is a question for your current prescribing doctor. No one here is a doctor so no one here can safely advise you on this, especially with respect to your kidney function.


I can imagine. Are you going to contact them?? I really hope you do.


I have heard a LOT of people say that over the course of these Invega threads. You are not alone in the way you feel <3


I am really, really interested to hear how it goes for you. Please continue to update us on your experiences with it <3


I completely agree!!! I've been very curious about how NAD treatment can help Invega recovery.
Yeah but my doctor would never allow me to come off of any of these neurotoxins. So I can’t ask her. I just have to go down my own path and hope for the best
 
Yeah but my doctor would never allow me to come off of any of these neurotoxins. So I can’t ask her. I just have to go down my own path and hope for the best
But what about your kidneys? Can you at least ask your doctor to get a blood test to see how your kidneys are functioning? Or maybe see a different doctor and get a second opinion on the whole situation? Coming off lithium really needs to be done under medical supervision dude.
 
But what about your kidneys? Can you at least ask your doctor to get a blood test to see how your kidneys are functioning? Or maybe see a different doctor and get a second opinion on the whole situation? Coming off lithium really needs to be done under medical supervision dude.
Well I’ve done it before with no problems. My insurance won’t cover seeing another psychiatrist and I really don’t have the money to pay for a so called “good psychiatrist” right now so yeah. I need to get a primary care physician
 
I know you've said it isn't a problem, but you do mention alcohol quite often and I just want to say that alcoholism and alcoholic withdrawal can cause psychosis. I am only pointing this out because it seems like you were at a place where you are trying to explore the causes of what happened to you.
You are completely right in assumimg alcohol may be a negative factor. During my 6 months of psychosis I definitely drank more. Sometimes I have a couple beers or a glass of wine on weekdays. But I have a habit of binging on saturdays. I convinced myself it’s all fine because I was lean and in shape. But alcohol may be a bigger problem than I realize.

Now that I think about it, I wasn’t psychotic until I started drinking a few years ago. Maybe I need to change my habits and try living life sober. I will definitely stop binge drinking on weekends. It’s just so deeply ingrained in the culture where I live. Maybe I need to get out of the city, but I live alone and don’t think I will handle the suburbs by myself. I have a gf but it’s not serious. I’m still living the bachelor lifestyle, maybe time for a change.

Butt for me
I read somewhere that butt injections last longer. Don’t remember the source
 
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Any tips for coasting through this?
To be honest, I don’t think there is an easy way to coast through this. For me, it was just waiting it out. I took walks and watched TV shows. During the first couple months it was hard to do anything at all.

I read somewhere that butt injections last longer. Don’t remember the source
I’ve read that too. Somewhere it said the half life is longer.
 
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