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Professor Nutt's magic jizz (Sentia)

Dude you are an alarmists. Something that's mild isn't going go cause addiction - we don't have tea drinkers sitting in cafes all day everyday.



David was asked something similar in this short clip

I didn’t say it will cause addiction, I said people will just switch to alcohol after it gets banned and destroy themselves!
 
I didn’t say it will cause addiction, I said people will just switch to alcohol after it gets banned and destroy themselves!
Ok point taken if it does come out and then get banned. I can't see it getting banned after succeeding though. It will be on that GRAS thing in America (generally regarded as safe)
 
You have a point as that is exactly what happened after I became addicted to GHB. After that the switch to other GABA drugs is a lot more easy.
I don't think it will be banned after it's out. More likely it won't get approved in the first place ( or it will somewhere but not everywhere)
 
Certainly, same thing happened to me with etizolam. After etiz addiction even booze got appeal.

Instead focusing on something like αMT that can be tweaked into beautiful, light, euphoric social enhancer with neuroprotective and antidepressant effects dude will likely end up creating just another shitty “legal high” disaster.
 
A voice of a young contrarian: I believe that what Nutt is attempting to do is coming from a place of good. He's attempting to improve the pharmacological profile and safety of ethanol, which is commendable when considering the scientific constraints he's working under with 2016 Psychoactive Substance Act (perhaps the most tyrannical piece of UK legislation). A business venture into a floral-extract vitamin drink doesn't ablate his role as one of the most important British psychopharmacologists of our time.

I should be meeting Dr Nutt in the coming months as I am volunteering at a plenary lecture of his; if anyone has any questions for him, please let me know.
Did ya meet the Nutt then 🤣
 
Sorry this is 2 years too late for you, but for the record the only thing Sentia gave me was an upset stomach, they did tell me not to drink the whole thing so I took it as a challenge. Wish I hadn't bothered. Stomach pains, some other odd effects to mood that were subtle almost to the point of nonexistence. There's plenty of alcohol replacements available in the... other.... part of the market but if this it then I don't think alcohol has anything to worry about. I'm curious as to whether Mr Nutt has either not tried his drink at all, or perhaps he's been trying it a bit too much, and in his addled state of mind, decided to send out this. Everything about it is deceiving. The marketing is straight up misinformation, this is just a few nootropic compounds and herbal extracts in a bottle - sorry, Proprietory Gaba Blend(TM), I expected a lot from David Nutt, his goal is an excellent one and I'll probably still end up buying whatever the next drink is that he puts out, just because I would love to have an alcohol replacement, maybe I should send David some pregabalin, he needs to put something a lot stronger in that drink if you want to have even the slightest hope of making a dent in the competition.

Sentia = stomach cramps, very subtle Ashwagandha-like feeling for about 2 hours, and that was it. It did taste good tho I must admit, it's just a shame I didn't buy it for the flavour. Really hope the next iteration is not more of this.. Will have to wait and see but until then I would recommend giving Sentia a miss, but that's based only on my own experience, of course everyone is subjective. But (sorry Dave) Sentia is overpriced shit with deceptive marketing that is not able to deliver anything remotely close to the product they seem to think they have. I know, I know, it's their first attempt in a pretty novel field of study, just hope V2 is something new/a complete overhaul, not just Sentia 2, now with 4x the Ashwagandha. I guess time will tell. In that intervening time, best take your hard earned currency units elsewhere for now.
 
Sorry this is 2 years too late for you, but for the record the only thing Sentia gave me was an upset stomach, they did tell me not to drink the whole thing so I took it as a challenge. Wish I hadn't bothered. Stomach pains, some other odd effects to mood that were subtle almost to the point of nonexistence. There's plenty of alcohol replacements available in the... other.... part of the market but if this it then I don't think alcohol has anything to worry about. I'm curious as to whether Mr Nutt has either not tried his drink at all, or perhaps he's been trying it a bit too much, and in his addled state of mind, decided to send out this. Everything about it is deceiving. The marketing is straight up misinformation, this is just a few nootropic compounds and herbal extracts in a bottle - sorry, Proprietory Gaba Blend(TM), I expected a lot from David Nutt, his goal is an excellent one and I'll probably still end up buying whatever the next drink is that he puts out, just because I would love to have an alcohol replacement, maybe I should send David some pregabalin, he needs to put something a lot stronger in that drink if you want to have even the slightest hope of making a dent in the competition.

Sentia = stomach cramps, very subtle Ashwagandha-like feeling for about 2 hours, and that was it. It did taste good tho I must admit, it's just a shame I didn't buy it for the flavour. Really hope the next iteration is not more of this.. Will have to wait and see but until then I would recommend giving Sentia a miss, but that's based only on my own experience, of course everyone is subjective. But (sorry Dave) Sentia is overpriced shit with deceptive marketing that is not able to deliver anything remotely close to the product they seem to think they have. I know, I know, it's their first attempt in a pretty novel field of study, just hope V2 is something new/a complete overhaul, not just Sentia 2, now with 4x the Ashwagandha. I guess time will tell. In that intervening time, best take your hard earned currency units elsewhere for now.
Why the fuck would I ever chose Proprietory Gaba Blend™ over number of substances that alone or in combo of my liking anyway work million times better than ethanol? Hell if I want to pretend I’m drinking alcohol I’ll just add them to some virgin cocktail and sip that.
 
Why the fuck would I ever chose Proprietory Gaba Blend™ over number of substances that alone or in combo of my liking anyway work million times better than ethanol? Hell if I want to pretend I’m drinking alcohol I’ll just add them to some virgin cocktail and sip that.
Exactly, there's no reason at all to use it. Which is a shame, because his goal is to create a drink that has alcohol-esque effects but without the health issues, organ damage, hangovers, all the side effects that come along with alcohol. Which would be brilliant if it did exist - imagine, being able to get the confidence and relaxation that only alcohol can give you, but none of the ill effects. It's a great idea, but ideas are only good in theory until they're put into practice, and I'm not really sure what David Nutt was thinking, I read the actual list of ingredients when I bought it, and IIRC a lot of it was GABA-ergic herbs and nootropics, pretty sure Ashwagandha was in there too. Which is nice, but I don't know why he thought that mixture would be like alcohol, like it's not even close. Maybe the next version will be better, all I can do is wait and see I guess. I suppose the difficulty is keeping it legal, especially here in the UK, with the Psychoactive Substances Act in 2016 they just blanket-banned the whole lot. Which could explain it, he had to be very careful to not include any ingredient that could be classed as a drug or prodrug. Ah well, I appreciate that he tried.
 
Exactly, there's no reason at all to use it. Which is a shame, because his goal is to create a drink that has alcohol-esque effects but without the health issues, organ damage, hangovers, all the side effects that come along with alcohol. Which would be brilliant if it did exist - imagine, being able to get the confidence and relaxation that only alcohol can give you, but none of the ill effects. It's a great idea, but ideas are only good in theory until they're put into practice, and I'm not really sure what David Nutt was thinking, I read the actual list of ingredients when I bought it, and IIRC a lot of it was GABA-ergic herbs and nootropics, pretty sure Ashwagandha was in there too. Which is nice, but I don't know why he thought that mixture would be like alcohol, like it's not even close. Maybe the next version will be better, all I can do is wait and see I guess. I suppose the difficulty is keeping it legal, especially here in the UK, with the Psychoactive Substances Act in 2016 they just blanket-banned the whole lot. Which could explain it, he had to be very careful to not include any ingredient that could be classed as a drug or prodrug. Ah well, I appreciate that he tried.
The alcarelle Facebook says "we hope to have a product ready for market by 2025". Somehow I don't believe it but ya never know. Maybe it will be available to buy online first before it hits the pubs.
 
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