PriestTheyCalledHim
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That is very true. I was writing about the Western world and society in my wish for religion to be private in schools, government buildings, courts, workplaces, etc. but not in the home, in places of worship like mosques or temples etc. or other private places.but there's an issue with this, that the "left" (in quotations marks because IMO there's no real left in western countries anymore) doesn't want to acknowledge and it's sadly quite important:
in western countries we evolved socially to end up considering religion as private, and that happen not only by political and social "fight" but also by normal theological discussions and philosophical evolution. So, for example, when Immanuel Kant talked about private religion and natural religion (that inner tendency and inner a priori understanding of any religious manifestations ((the "numinous")) it wasn't just an invention of him, but a lot of centuries went through before something like that could be explained and theorically categorized.
In other places/cultures like islamic/arab countries or even animists or non-theists religions like buddhism, that type of discussions are just different or they haven't reach the same point of "evolution" (evolution is a bad/problematic word in ethnology/history, but well...
So then, if they understand our point of view is because "we" (westerners) conquered and colonized most of the world and then we created the conditions for science and democratic discussions to appear in those places, not that they didn't have their own opinions or their own history and evolution, of course they had it...
but the point here is that we shouldn't expect those other cultures to assume that our POV and type of society and tolerance thresholds/standards will coincide with theirs, that just won't happen as fast as we would like, so those issues won't resolve easily, it could happen overtime or, in the worst case, it may bring civilizational conflicts.
These people the eunuchs/transvestites are in India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. India's government has them classified as a third gender a mix between male and female. They have been in South Asia before European colonialism. I do wonder if Hijras and the castration started when Darius the great, or Alexander the Great invaded South Asia?
@yubacity is from India I asked a South Asian friend about Hijra or the eunuchs as her southern state has a festival for them she told me "Hijra are not transsexual or transgender even if they want to now say they are, they are transvestites. Some Hindu temples and cities and villages in my state have festivals for them."
