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You are hilarious, Kellsee! I made it to my 48 hours break and decided to push the dosage a bit. I dont think Im cut out for chipping...
 
:) Actual occasional use, by which I mean not scheduled. Many drugs which can be habit forming, you can do "once weekly" or "twice weekly"... scheduled.
Any time I've tried that with opiates, a habit seems to creep in with tolerance and change of effects gradually developing.
Pain pills used to give me a nod, now they act like a stimulant to me. IMO that's because I did them on the weekends for a few months. That's when things changed.
That has not changed back. It seems to be permanent.
Anywho, I only do opioids once in a while now.
Although, I'm in my 60's. I might let that slide someday.
But, it is not this day.

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Kellsee said:
Well…. I am sitting here high as mofo hell and listening to Jordan Peterson on YouTube
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... uh-huh.
Kellsee said:
If you know how amazing articulate, empathetic and intelligent this man is
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since FUCKING WHEN and by WHAT halfway sane person's estimate?!
.. the man is a bigoted, narcissist idiot. Just to clarify, I hate the wokie crowd. I also hate wankers like JP. And the one thing I'll never forgive the wokie crowd for is to very occasionally give me reason to agree with wankers like JP.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
... uh-huh.

since FUCKING WHEN and by WHAT halfway sane person's estimate?!
.. the man is a bigoted, narcissist idiot. Just to clarify, I hate the wokie crowd. I also hate wankers like JP. And the one thing I'll never forgive the wokie crowd for is to very occasionally give me reason to agree with wankers like JP.
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Ok so are you saying JP supports the wokie crowd?

And what does “wokie crowd” represent to you?

I’m genuinely just trying to ensure I understand what you are saying
 
ItsclearlyFake said:
Yes, the trick is not knowing (or even wanting to) street dealers, and having a lock time safe.

Also being in a phase of not having that impairing need to numb your feelings down like I used to have, probably helps in not having much desire in using as a daily habit.
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A lock time safe sounds like a great idea, actually. That might work! I live in the middle of an open air drug street market...I can walk outside and cop really easily.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
.. the man is a bigoted, narcissist idiot. Just to clarify, I hate the wokie crowd. I also hate wankers like JP. And the one thing I'll never forgive the wokie crowd for is to very occasionally give me reason to agree with wankers like JP.
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Yeah can't stand the dude, but he seems to impress some people.

Heck, one day my mom called me to tell me to listen to Jordan Peterson, and I told her, "I already have mom, he's a charlatan".

She said, "what's a charlatan?" -- a response which sort of sums of the whole thing 🤣.
 
Lol!! Good one bro.

Any self proclaimed chippers are more like "I tried opiates a couple times a year."

If you get into true chipping. And have a kindling effect like I do.

I found that a single day (or two back two back days) just 1X every two weeks was what I was able to sustain for like 1.5 years at one point.

If I tries 1x per week I would suffer mild.withdrawals eventually that wouod lead to more frequent dosing a full addiction.

Opiates are not MDMA....they're pretty boring and depressing drugs. Using them once a month like MDMA or coke or something....what's the point? They aren't fun time party drugs. They are drugs of escaping misery and pain and good luck chipping if you have daily misery and pain.
 
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negrogesic said:
Yeah can't stand the dude, but he seems to impress some people.

Heck, one day my mom called me to tell me to listen to Jordan Peterson, and I told her, "I already have mom, he's a charlatan".

She said, "what's a charlatan?" -- a response which sort of sums of the whole thing 🤣.
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I say this as a pretty far left leaning libertarian (full libertarian on personal freedoms and moderately far left on economic policy only).

Jordan Peterson when you strip away his business ploy to play politics...just as an academic and philosopher if you will, has some very solid lectures that have nothing to do with culture war shit.

Unfortunately Peterson found out that academics don't really get rich and he had to play culture wars so he added a bunch of racist bigoted right wing rhetoric into his act to become a big deal.....or he's just a real piece of shit with a stick up his ass that actually believes his own right wing talking points. I'm not sure.

When I see people that are that analytical, critical thinkers, and book smart buy into right wing culture war shit (or far left culture war stuff)...i.cant help but beleieve it's an act where they've sacrificed some principles to make money...either way they are trash so I guess your point stands.
 
Every time i quit I try to be an occasional user might work a few times within a couple of weeks I'm an everyday user again. I suppose if you never been addicted to could control it do it on weekend only
 
paranoid android said:
II have been using morphine without being addicted to it now for about 3 and a half years. i only get 30 30mg pills a month so its not enough to become addicted to
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It totally is i don't beleieve you. I've been at around the same morphine equivalents for many years and kicking isn't thr full blown shitting/vomitting....but there is absolutely a withdrawal.

You're going to tell me with a straight face you dose 30 mg morphine per day and have zero withdrawal symptoms when you stop (you have to give it 4 or 5 days for the withdrawal to set in...skipping a day doesn't mean you aren't dependent)
 
yubacity said:
Every time i quit I try to be an occasional user might work a few times within a couple of weeks I'm an everyday user again. I suppose if you never been addicted to could control it do it on weekend only
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Like I said....I would be come dependent at 1x a week after being clean for a year.

That one weekly dose would be enough to start causing stomach camps and insomnia etc. After the 3rd day after the dose.

And if you have to work and have crushing stomach cramps or havnt slept for two nights....you break your 1x per week rule and fall into addiction.

I guess if I had zero responsibility in could use once a week and have my shitty mini withdrawl mid week then use again 1x a week.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
Like I said....I would be come dependent at 1x a week after being clean for a year.

That one weekly dose would be enough to start causing stomach camps and insomnia etc. After the 3rd day after the dose.

And if you have to work and have crushing stomach cramps or havnt slept for two nights....you break your 1x per week rule and fall into addiction.

I guess if I had zero responsibility in could use once a week and have my shitty mini withdrawl mid week then use again 1x a week.
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Same here three days of using brown or 2 days in a row with pod tea will give me some sort of wd . Thats what grabs you again that shitty anxiety stomach fucked makes you think just today i be ok not tyommorow then you back in it
 
LucidSDreamr said:
Like I said....I would be come dependent at 1x a week after being clean for a year.

That one weekly dose would be enough to start causing stomach camps and insomnia etc. After the 3rd day after the dose.

And if you have to work and have crushing stomach cramps or havnt slept for two nights....you break your 1x per week rule and fall into addiction.

I guess if I had zero responsibility in could use once a week and have my shitty mini withdrawl mid week then use again 1x a week.
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What you wrote there is my struggle after max 6 weeks clean my brain starts making plans dip you been good reward yourself or have you been in paws moody depressed your wife and kids deserve one day where you good normal do it for them . Then the using for a few days and mini wd which traps you
 
If you have been addicted to gear before i don't think an occasional usage will work . I knew people in Punjab and UK that will take pods or afeem Indian raw opium once a week and keep it to that .
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I found that a single day (or two back two back days) just 1X every two weeks was what I was able to sustain for like 1.5 years at one point.

If I tries 1x per week I would suffer mild.withdrawals eventually that wouod lead to more frequent dosing a full addiction.
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For other drugs, I have found that 1x a week was the most possible to not eventually have issues.
2X a week, two back to back days, was sustainable for a pretty long time but would very gradually bring on issues. The first issue was usually going to 3x a week.
Once you are taking a drug 3 days a week, in other words 3 days on and only 4 days off, issues develop rather quickly. You are craving and withdrawing those 4 days and living for the 3 after a while.
In my case, that necessitated a months long break before beginning that cycle again.

Anyway, other drugs, in my case, 1x was doable. I would usually do "One More Saturday Night".
 
LucidSDreamr said:
It totally is i don't beleieve you. I've been at around the same morphine equivalents for many years and kicking isn't thr full blown shitting/vomitting....but there is absolutely a withdrawal.

You're going to tell me with a straight face you dose 30 mg morphine per day and have zero withdrawal symptoms when you stop (you have to give it 4 or 5 days for the withdrawal to set in...skipping a day doesn't mean you aren't dependent)
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Im scripted 30mg's a day however usually what i do is shoot 60mg's every 2 days. And no i get no wd at alll
 
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