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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

matt<3ketamine said:
there has been some that have been faking galenika bensedins a year or so ago, from strips not having origins (beograd) to ones being shorter than other boxes strips, ive seen only 2 copies tho and they didn't stay around long. The prodes were the ones that lwent down the flubromazolam route at the end. Have pics on my phone that could show the old print fakes. Theres a good telegram group for keeping in the loop about them if you've got that?
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I have taken mostly every single type of galenika diazepam through pretty much every mainstream claim to controversy, even the 'fakes' (diaz major, fluoraz lesser I was given), that I recieved from a friend which he now claims are from an actual very respected TG vendor.

I'm going to have to look into that as he's a bit of a spazmo and ordered from a fake legit guy. =D

Btw I think I have pics of myngalenika fakes which were absolutely great =D - and put it this way: through all the controversy thus far re galenika packaging and I haven't had a grand mal seizure yet. =D :roll eyes: Plus, the strips, packs and instructions are sent flatpacked individually and seperately which I have recieved before. So make your own mind up there!

All I can say is that I've got a bit of the old muscle providing extra protection round those parts, and regardlesss I think whatever is going on with genika diaz/xanax/clonaz is obviously corrupt as hell, regardless of "official" status.

Can the wedinos tg thread be posted considering it mentions vendors directly within the wedinos results posted? Its a new world and many wedinos submissions mention vendor name anyway. @axe battler - we obviously all have access to the same groups most the UK does and unless you have a proper @, good luck finding the real one/VIP area regardless!
 
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Tranced said:
I have taken mostly every single type of galenika diazepam through pretty much every mainstream claim to controversy, even the 'fakes' (diaz major, fluoraz lesser I was given), that I recieved from a friend which he now claims are from an actual very respected TG vendor.

I'm going to have to look into that as he's a bit of a spazmo and ordered from a fake legit guy. =D

Btw I think I have pics of myngalenika fakes which were absolutely great =D - and put it this way: through all the controversy thus far re galenika packaging and I haven't had a grand mal seizure yet. =D :roll eyes: Plus, the strips, packs and instructions are sent flatpacked individually and seperately which I have recieved before. So make your own mind up there!

All I can say is that I've got a bit of the old muscle providing extra protection round those parts, and regardlesss I think whatever is going on with genika diaz/xanax/clonaz is obviously corrupt as hell, regardless of "official" status.

Can the wedinos tg thread be posted considering it mentions vendors directly within the wedinos results posted? Its a new world and many wedinos submissions mention vendor name anyway. @axe battler - we obviously all have access to the same groups most the UK does and unless you have a proper @, good luck finding the real one/VIP area regardless!
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your damn right about the corruption and 'official' status, i bet. I mean, they brought out them new designs for the boxes to be 'counterfeit proof'....how in the hell do ya make a cardboard box counterfeit proof lol if gangs are gonna rip something off, they are gonna find a way.
the worst counterfeits of diaz i had recently were prodes that were flubromazolam, that was last year too, i think. my mate's were the ones who got stung with the bensedins and he gave me one and just turned chalky in my mouth with no taste.
 
matt<3ketamine said:
your damn right about the corruption and 'official' status, i bet. I mean, they brought out them new designs for the boxes to be 'counterfeit proof'....how in the hell do ya make a cardboard box counterfeit proof lol if gangs are gonna rip something off, they are gonna find a way.
the worst counterfeits of diaz i had recently were prodes that were flubromazolam, that was last year too, i think. my mate's were the ones who got stung with the bensedins and he gave me one and just turned chalky in my mouth with no taste.
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Absolutely... the mafia can easily buy time on the same/similar production lines that make real Galenika (and cut some corners on quality control).

I think I've said elsewhere that I've got Galenika products for 2019 and they are nothing like most of the pills being sold in Western Europe at the moment. My theory is that they've been designed as good enough fakes to pass the WEDINOS test.
 
anal_greed said:
Absolutely... the mafia can easily buy time on the same/similar production lines that make real Galenika (and cut some corners on quality control).

I think I've said elsewhere that I've got Galenika products for 2019 and they are nothing like most of the pills being sold in Western Europe at the moment. My theory is that they've been designed as good enough fakes to pass the WEDINOS test.
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yeah i would LOVE to see an actual dose analysis of the galenika's going about now. i remember seeing someone on here posted a link to a website i hadn't seen before or since, testing one and it was just 5mg.
 
matt<3ketamine said:
yeah i would LOVE to see an actual dose analysis of the galenika's going about now. i remember seeing someone on here posted a link to a website i hadn't seen before or since, testing one and it was just 5mg.
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Me too. Would love to have Energy Control, or a lab that measures strength, take a proper look at Bensedin or Ksalol. However it's quite a lot of money, especially since I've moved on to other more reliable brands (e.g. KRKA who make apaurin diaz). I wondered about crowd funding it, but appreciate the issues of trust/lack of anonymity.
 
I recently received some 10mg accord diazepam. After reading the posts above, i'll post to Wedinos. I think I've been scammed. Anyone else had accord diazepam?

Read on Wedinos theres a lot of fake accord diazepam around
 
peace seeker 76 said:
I recently received some 10mg accord diazepam. After reading the posts above, i'll post to Wedinos. I think I've been scammed. Anyone else had accord diazepam?

Read on Wedinos theres a lot of fake accord diazepam around
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if your reading it on wedinos, then its best to either just bin them or if its another drug and you like it, save them for a rainy day or flush em. ive had accord diazepam and nitrazepam but the diaz was from a chemist
 
matt<3ketamine said:
if your reading it on wedinos, then its best to either just bin them or if its another drug and you like it, save them for a rainy day or flush em. ive had accord diazepam and nitrazepam but the diaz was from a chemist
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I’m on 40mg per day of prescribed diazepam. I potentiate with a couple brews every other day and smoke Cbd and French cigs, Italian coffee and British tea. Keeps me on the level.
 
BK38 said:
I’m on 40mg per day of prescribed diazepam. I potentiate with a couple brews every other day and smoke Cbd and French cigs, Italian coffee and British tea. Keeps me on the level.
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Tobacco cigs and coffee definitely reduce the effectiveness and duration of benzos, meaning that one needs to increase the benzo dose to get the same effect.. They have an opposite mode of action which increases anxiety and insomnia (certainly does for me anyway).

Is that what was meant be levelling out 40mg of diazepam?

The black tea commonly sold in the UK has negligible caffeine and it's generally quite calming.
 
Bleaney said:
Tobacco cigs and coffee definitely reduce the effectiveness and duration of benzos, meaning that one needs to increase the benzo dose to get the same effect.. They have an opposite mode of action which increases anxiety and insomnia (certainly does for me anyway).

Is that what was meant be levelling out 40mg of diazepam?

The black tea commonly sold in the UK has negligible caffeine and it's generally quite calming.
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I did exactly what you stated, down to a TEA. Got another 5mg Valium I’m going to take to power through and buy more Cbd to make spliffs with. Have a 1 hitter left of CBD BUDDHA CHEESE from Marseilles I’ll mix with fry Parisian light tobacco.
 
Been getting Bensedin Galenika Diazies for a long time now, always reliable and from a decent vendor. Latest batch however, the writing on the strips is black rather than blue and the tablets - whilst having that slight sweet valium taste initially - go quite crumbly, bitter and chalky quite quickly. Gonna send them off for a test but has anyone had these? I've been super chilled but that could always be a placebo. I've heard people say that the black writing is the new branding but the tablets are much different in terms of the chalky quality. Anyway I'd love to hear from others. There are all kinds of horror stories, including with fentanyl although I don't believe that. However I have recently kicked H and don't want to end up accidentally picking up an opiate habit again!

Once I get the test results I'll share them here incase anyone else uses this brand.

Dunno if this is allowed but this is a picture of the strip - haven't seen these on Wedinos yet so I might be the first to have them tested. https://ibb.co/587w7Cf
 
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pharaoh said:
Been getting Bensedin Galenika Diazies for a long time now, always reliable and from a decent vendor. Latest batch however, the writing on the strips is black rather than blue and the tablets - whilst having that slight sweet valium taste initially - go quite crumbly, bitter and chalky quite quickly. Gonna send them off for a test but has anyone had these? I've been super chilled but that could always be a placebo. I've heard people say that the black writing is the new branding but the tablets are much different in terms of the chalky quality. Anyway I'd love to hear from others. There are all kinds of horror stories, including with fentanyl although I don't believe that. However I have recently kicked H and don't want to end up accidentally picking up an opiate habit again!

Once I get the test results I'll share them here incase anyone else uses this brand.

Dunno if this is allowed but this is a picture of the strip - haven't seen these on Wedinos yet so I might be the first to have them tested. https://ibb.co/587w7Cf
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The blister strip in your photo - with the red markings on it - looks different to both old syle strips and the new ones I think.

If you do a serch for Bensedin on Wedinos, while most come as back as legit, there are some recent fakes containing the likes of Bromazolam and Flubmrazolam in them. Same goes for some Ksasol results too.. In the end, the only way to be certain is to send off a sample of every strip you have to Wedinos
 
Yep I plan to do so. I just hope there is some kind of benzo in them as my anxiety was through the roof and I do feel like I'm chilled but you can never know. Pisses me off as the vendor has always been decent but I guess that's how it goes. Gonna send off to Wedinos and report back.

Have you seen results for bensedin dodgies on Wedinos? I could only see legit results.
 
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pharaoh said:
Yep I plan to do so. I just hope there is some kind of benzo in them as my anxiety was through the roof and I do feel like I'm chilled but you can never know. Pisses me off as the vendor has always been decent but I guess that's how it goes. Gonna send off to Wedinos and report back.

Have you seen results for bensedin dodgies on Wedinos? I could only see legit results.
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Sample numbers W028924 and W028862 are both recent fake Bensedins.
 
Forever Changes said:
If you do a serch for Bensedin on Wedinos, while most come as back as legit, there are some recent fakes containing the likes of Bromazolam and Flubmrazolam in them. Same goes for some Ksasol results too.. In the end, the only way to be certain is to send off a sample of every strip you have to Wedinos
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I've heard someone claiming strong and weak Ksalol from the same blister strip. Fuuuuck! So if they literally vary by the pill then are we going to have to send ALL our Galenika to WEDINOS?!? ;) I'm mostly joking and hope he got his Ksalol strips muddled, or that's gonna be such a headfuck.

Glad I'm a diazepam person who mostly uses an alternative brand (Apaurin from KRKA).
 
Anyone know if martin dow (diaz) is faked alot? Looks like UK is flooded with fakes now such as actavis diazepam and accord. I can't believe how good the fake packaging is these days (the included leaflet looks so legit as well!!!)

I only want a couple of strips after Dr wouldn't prescribe no more.

I got burned by accord diazepam. Stay away guys. Fake rubbish

Surely, in the long run, suppliers will lose money, reputation, and customers if they continue with the fake crap?
 
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