Right, so I wrote this:
Yes, it has, but I've seen very few (if any) comments that go right at that specific detail.
"It's not the same product."
"No, it's you."
And that's about it. How about "MDA works for me. 5-APB works for me. MDMA, not since whenever." That would be a less fuzzy comment less likely to be dismissed with "It's you."
Not true, you just haven't been following for long enough if you think so. There was a good bit about what worked, what didn't, when stuff last worked or last didn't, a couple of years ago, if not since. There's been plenty of detailed comments in this vein.
We're at 6 years and 381 pages of discussion on this.
Differential experience across substances by one person has a lot of value. That's one brain and one set of neuroreceptors and -transmitter levels. One person who has very different experiences with two things that should do more or less the same thing. That's interesting. Is it the person or is it the substance?
I care a whole lot less about
when MDMA "stopped working" than I do about whether or not a person reporting MehDMA also reports on whether or not another similar substance is still working for them. I have not seen a lot of that -- some, but certainly not a lot. I've read the entirety of these threads over years, so sorry if I forgot a helpful report of yours.
But the thread continues to generate a lot of posts like
- MDMA sucks today!
- No, it's you!
- Contamination! Test your shit!
- Labs can't detect shit! OMFG! Crooks!
and that seems to me like a rathole. Or like going in circles.
I'd like to think that zeroing in the responses within one individual to various serotonergic drugs would help resolve, in many minds whether or not current MDMA or an individual's specifics is the reason for most of the disappointed reports. Your receptors are fried or they ain't. You got good MDMA or you didn't. If you report a disappointing time, but you didn't reagent-test it, and you ate a pizza 15 min before dropping, and your friends had shitty times too, and it was the first time for all of you, that report has just as many questions as it does answers. If you can still get the desired serotonin response from another substance, but not from MDMA anymore, and you once were able to, that report has some heft. (The question of different neuroreceptors notwithstanding, it's still much closer to a reasonable point of inquiry and has carved away some possible issues and ambiguity.)
Maybe that's a lot of words; maybe it gives a better idea of what I'm on about here. In any case, it's a very polite request to provide supporting information when possible, going forward, and by that I mean your responses to things like MDA, 5-APB, 5-MAPB, 6-APB, etc., also. (I hadn't been thinking of 2C-B, but indigoaura mentioned it in an interesting way here a couple posts ago, so yeah.)
But 6 years and 381 pages later, here we are. Consensus has been achieved? lol, no. So I'm suggesting/reminding that the response of one individual to different serotonergic compounds is interesting, especially when they vary, and I would like to see more. For example, "MDMA and 5-APB worked for me, and now 5-APB does and MDMA doesn't, oh but hey my buddy just pulled a 1998 stash out of his ass and wow I'm rolling balls again" is a good anecdotal post for this topic. Yeah, they exist in the discussion; yeah, I'd still like to see more of those posts.
I dont feel i've had enough controlled experience to say one way or another confidently.
keep that stealth navel orange if u hit turbulence
The MehDMA is really just a lower MDMA:byproducts ratio so your 100mg ends up say, 80mg, and theres no simple or easy way to suss that out... This doesn't address the anecdotes about futile dose increases on the supposed MehDMA, amongst other things. But what I mean to say is, low dose MDMA seems to display a lot of the MehDMA symptoms, as so many have described it since the dawn of time "I just didn't quite roll".