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Are you in withdrawal most of the time? Or is it just if you don't have kratom? I'm getting more kratom too. Wasn't planning to, but hey, that's how it goes, I gotta have something and one tea for another is very sustainable for me (after ten weeks of quitting on/off).
I worry about you taking all that paracetamol, Why do you think it's better than just oxy on it's own?
The percs are better in the short term mainly because they come with some actual fear of hurting myself, where straight oxy brings no such fear. I come from a long line of alcoholics (strong livers), so I’m not really worried about the long term damage.
AND I’m a great bullshit artist, so talking my Dr into more oxy wasn’t impossible. Getting more than 6 Percocet’s per day was the limit because of the Tylenol in them.

I don’t want to damage my relationship with that Dr. There’s likely more surgeries in my future and I want that dealer, I mean doctor, to write me a giant prescription if that ever happens. My current goal is to make him think he tapered me off the pills, rather than just stop cold turkey. Somewhere in the middle of this I wanted to stock away some percs, but that doesn’t seem to be working.

Baby steps. Two steps forward and one step back. This time last year I was prescribed 100 mg per day oxy, and I would take 600 mg per day for 5 days every month. Right now I’m taking about 1/2 of that for about the same amount of time. It’s a step in the right direction and the Tylenol is actually what is doing the work.

Ultimately it’s the common pattern of abstinence and relapse. It’s really hard to look back at all of the times I was close to freedom and realize I keep putting myself back into the grips of the pills. I just know myself and I know that I won’t walk away from this problem until I have proven to myself that there is no solution. Meanwhile I’m getting about a week each month with some real pain relief and it’s kind of nice.
 
120mg of oxy this morning and I feel nothing except relief from my wd symptoms. Scary to think about how much damage has been done to my opiate receptors and how many months or years it will take to get back to normal whenever I actually do quit everything.

I don’t have dreams of enjoying my pills anymore. That ship has sailed, crashed, and sank. I’m not even sad about anymore. I just want to find the bottom so I can start climbing out.
 
120mg of oxy this morning and I feel nothing except relief from my wd symptoms. Scary to think about how much damage has been done to my opiate receptors and how many months or years it will take to get back to normal whenever I actually do quit everything.

I don’t have dreams of enjoying my pills anymore. That ship has sailed, crashed, and sank. I’m not even sad about anymore. I just want to find the bottom so I can start climbing out.
Feel in agony from two days.Cant walk without help.Horror hits me hard.Everytime same...quickly,almost instant hit....and all i wanna is die asap.
 
Feel in agony from two days.Cant walk without help.Horror hits me hard.Everytime same...quickly,almost instant hit....and all i wanna is die asap.
Strength to you, I hope you're past the worst part. What you coming off?
 
120mg of oxy this morning and I feel nothing except relief from my wd symptoms. Scary to think about how much damage has been done to my opiate receptors and how many months or years it will take to get back to normal whenever I actually do quit everything.

I don’t have dreams of enjoying my pills anymore. That ship has sailed, crashed, and sank. I’m not even sad about anymore. I just want to find the bottom so I can start climbing out.
There is no bottom.That is endless spiral.Bottom is death
 
So this ought to be day 17 and I'm sticking with that because I've not been too bad, the odd slip up, like I just slipped and plugged some morphine solution, but only very little, great but too quick to wear off. Pods keep you ticking over all day long, sigh, that is my love. I've just got another half kilo of kratom. I suppose I could get used to this as a substitute, helps the cravings which were off the chart today.
 
I didn't realise it had withdrawals, I went straight from zoloft to prozac and no problem, are you trying to stop every med eventually?
I restart zoloft.like before-half tablet daily-25mg.not in time to stop.will continuing for now.But i have this states even on meds.However today have one tablet.Now feel ok.may be was some bad reaction or is not related with medicine.Will take it and see how i feel in near future.peace
 
So this ought to be day 17 and I'm sticking with that because I've not been too bad, the odd slip up, like I just slipped and plugged some morphine solution, but only very little, great but too quick to wear off. Pods keep you ticking over all day long, sigh, that is my love. I've just got another half kilo of kratom. I suppose I could get used to this as a substitute, helps the cravings which were off the chart today.
Half kilo kratom is good for start.When i was drinking kratom this was about my monthly dose.Not so expensive,but illegal for me.If i get a chance that would be my prefer daily drug along with weed.Pods are superior ofcourse,but addiction to them is very strong.Try some red vein and if not working properly try another one...till you find your strain.For me after some period of adaptation succesfuly replace pods.
 
I didn't realise it had withdrawals, I went straight from zoloft to prozac and no problem, are you trying to stop every med eventually?
Goin from one ssri to another usually comes smooth.Stopping only with tapper.And yes quitting AD gives some kind withdrawl.You feel bad for a while.The problem is that previous conditions of depression,anxiety,restlessness and so on could come again soon.
 
Goin from one ssri to another usually comes smooth.Stopping only with tapper.And yes quitting AD gives some kind withdrawl.You feel bad for a while.The problem is that previous conditions of depression,anxiety,restlessness and so on could come again soon.
Depression tends to come back so I just keep taking Prozac and it's not a problem. Kratom is illegal here too but the company I buy off print false descriptions on the packs so it looks legal. Great attention to detail. Pods are cheaper and better but like you say, very addictive.
 
Day 2 without weed equals day one without food. Feeling so sick, I know it's only weed, but I was sick after eating yesterday and I'm not risking it today. I lost 4kg with the opiate withdrawals, then put it back with another kg, so not eating today will be fine. I suffer mildly for three days with weed then it's all over and I don't need it any more. Tomorrow won't be so bad if I can stick it out today. Well that was how it was last time, fifteen months ago, fuck that is a long time thinking this is easy, thinking I can do it anytime, so I don't.
I'm not sure whether to try my new jungle deep kratom today, or wait until I'm feeling better. It feels mildly ridiculous to eat only kratom in a day, but I need a pick-me-up, otherwise my pain and misery will get the better of me and I'll be back where I was at the start.
I'm sick of the whole thing today, never want to take another drug ever. I need out of the house, but my car was borrowed and I'm not fit to drive anyone else's.
Someone come turn my brain off, pleeaasssssse, I'm begging
 
I’m lucky I guess that Kratom is legal where I am.

One of my big problems is likely undiagnosed medical conditions like depression, or scoliosis. I take pain meds for my lower back but they temporarily cure a few other problems. Then when I try to quit, I get all of those other problems back all at once and life instantly becomes unbearable. So I take oxy for a while for my back and I’m sleeping good, happy, patient, etc. After a few months when I quit oxy, I’m instantly fucked with a whole list of problems that I had previously become good at ignoring. My shoulders and neck hurt, my brains are scrambled, can’t sleep, etc. Add in all of the common wd symptoms and suddenly I feel like death. Somewhere in the middle of all of that I have to go to work and pretend like nothing is wrong.

It’s pretty obvious why I/we keep going back to the opiates or benzos. It’s because they work. One little pill and about a hundred problems are solved. Right now I would be happy if I could just take a crap without giving myself a hernia.
 
Oh fuck, I love this jungle deep, why did I buy a half kilo of red sumatran when they had this too?
Feeling much better, good call.
Still want weed, what could I vape instead? :unsure:
 
Noone cares about weed anyway, 48 hours off it and I was physically sick and feverish from the 20 hour mark onwards. I expected to get high as fuck vaping last night, it just made me better
and nicely stoned
how is it I can quit opies and never weed?
Except I guess being on buprenorphine isn't quitting opies.
Ah well, I've been a stoner since I was twelve, my brain grew up with it, I don't think I can change that, best just go with it.
 
Noone cares about weed anyway, 48 hours off it and I was physically sick and feverish from the 20 hour mark onwards. I expected to get high as fuck vaping last night, it just made me better
and nicely stoned
how is it I can quit opies and never weed?
Except I guess being on buprenorphine isn't quitting opies.
Ah well, I've been a stoner since I was twelve, my brain grew up with it, I don't think I can change that, best just go with it.
Well,if you feel fine why to quitt weed.Personally have week without than smoke another week...always prefer hash,but hard to find.
 
Well,if you feel fine why to quitt weed.Personally have week without than smoke another week...always prefer hash,but hard to find.
I prefer flower, stronger fuller effect imo, used to get only hash, now only flower, but yes, why quit?
The reason was mainly to do with not having evenings where I can have a reasonable phonecall or read a book because by the time I finish work I'm gagging for a vape of bud. I used to read to get to sleep, now I just keep vaping until I pass out. So I thought I'd see how it went. I might try the same next week to test if it was some sort of bud-sickness or something else.
There was a study done said Buprenorphine won't get removed while your body is removing THC, same mechanism, THC gets priority disposal, leaving up to three times more buprenorphine in your body than normal. That complicates it.
I'm just a curious creature experimenting on my own body for fun, good to have a hobby, y'know?
 
Wow I remember those days sitting around not being able to cope without getting stoned on weed.
How sad that was compared to recent days.
Now to even imagine that weed was that intense. Seems actually silly. But I'm just sad. ☹
 
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