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Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)

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“The great deception”, in the Last Days (meaning, years).

The concept of the Mark of Beast prophecy, a strong theme of it is the force to take the mark, however that will be, in order to not be cut out of society. To work, trade, travel, own, and be free, and have equal rights to other citizens (who maybe have taken the mark).

That is very very current in relation to exactly where we are possibly heading.
 
its not binary. they work x% of the time. so there is 100-x% of the time where they don't prevent transmission or they don't prevent serious illness. x >> 50% (from what i've read, >85% even for new variants). serious adverse reactions to these vaccines occur << 1% of the time.

so, if you are not vaccinated, you have a greater chance of contracting and therefore transmitting covid. if you then come into close, protracted contact with someone in the 100-x% for whom the vaccine does not prevent serious illness then you could cause them to be seriously ill. if you come into close, protracted contact with someone in the x% for whom the vaccine works exactly as intended then you are not a danger to them.

the vast majority of deaths due to the covid are now in the unvaccinated population.
Thanks for your answer.
 
AutoTripper said:
“The great deception”, in the Last Days (meaning, years).

The concept of the Mark of Beast prophecy, a strong theme of it is the force to take the mark, however that will be, in order to not be cut out of society. To work, trade, travel, own, and be free, and have equal rights to other citizens (who maybe have taken the mark).

That is very very current in relation to exactly where we are possibly heading.

That's not the "prophecy of the mark of the beast". It's literally half a sentence in a very long book. Throughout Revelations, the mark of the beast and the mark/seal of the lamb are mentioned. The mark of the lamb are worshippers of Christ. It is not a prophecy. While there may be prophetic sentences, it is also a term that is used to describe something that exists at the time.

Revelation 19:20 said:
And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.

Revelation 14:9-11 said:
And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

 
Did the plague really have a 99%+ survival rate?

I won’t be taking any vaccine. I’ll die first. I’d die more comfortably without it than with it if I was unfortunate to be one of the many many thousands, who aren’t qualified as worthy of being included in this discussion, in any detail it seems, who are suffering life crippling side effects.

It’s happening. Whatever you say. However you argue it’s justified. It’s still happening.

It could happen to me. Nobody, nobody can assure me, certainly not guarantee me it would not.

I can beat Covid using the home treatments. Only nerve based (Long Covid) would be harder for me to overcome quickly.

I’m not trying to fall out with anybody here, put any noses out. I respect everybody here. So please don’t take anything as targeted or retaliational.

I am just bursting with passion on this.
so 78 million un-natural deaths is ok for you.

that's the same number as world war 2.

are you sure that's were you stand ?

plus your talking numbers of a western country that has locked down and not overloaded its

hospitals.

in fact its more like 3 too 5% when you look at the third world.

and then there are the organ problems that happen to normal healthy "young" people

don't be so quick to throw your elders to the wolves.

really do these numbers sit well with you.

again you take illicit drugs with f all research (maybe not you I don't know you but many here)

I can tell you more people per percentile will die from drugs than vaccines any day.

I think if your prepared to take a risk just to get high and you won't to save those who are older than you ..


well you can work it out.

do the math no the politics.

hell there is a whole thread here and on every forum just about with the statistics.

they would not put it up if it meant nothing.

I don't see an update every month or so on the polls for trump here but corona its real.
 
yes it is a simple antibiotic will kill plague in a second.

imagine dark ages and god knows how many mutations.

its not going to get more gentle that's for sure.

and its getting worse more contagious and more deadly as we go.

we have only got 2 years on this

how long did the plague go till it hit london and went bubonic.
 
to add to this plague is still here.

its just that we have advanced.

you can not measure the two with what happened in the past as we did not have the

tech we have now.

your not catching plague but trust me its still around and if your a poor person from the third world

you can still catch it.

here is a map with the plague in 1998 (yes its still here so why do you not hear about it)

 
cell death?? it's apotosis.
im not sure I get you programmed cell death in higher life forms ?

are talking about the cure for plague (antibiotics are not the best these days I know but its an easy one

to explain)

though I am not sure about its use as I am not a bio chemist to be honest.

Immune Cell Apoptosis Prevention as Potential Therapy for Severe Infections​

 
yes they do and if you follow the map its all over the 3rd world.

but its not coming back here and we are not shutting down borders for it.

so why does it not come back to the west when its worst form was found and bred in london.

yet covid is nearly unstoppable.

yes there are less deaths per infection if untreated.

but there are more infections with covid so there is more death.
 
Well, those people who have died because of Covid, the figures, the stats basically, is it incorrect that they are each classed as having died “with” Covid?

Not, because of. I accept it does kill directly ftr, I’m not disputing that. Just trying to look at a few plain realities here.

“With Covid” = “Died within 28 days of a positive PCR test.”

Right? Or wrong? Even if the cause was a bridge leap, car crash, suicide, heart attack, those deaths, have been added to the staggering and shocking fatality figures.

According, to a PCR test which the now dead inventor, strongly insisted was never invented to be used for this diagnostic purpose, and is not actually capable of giving reliable positive positives, especially when over cycled as it has been, drawing criticism from the side as it goes along.

This I have just picked up as things have gone on. So the real stats are as skewed and unreliable and misrepresentative as can be in my mind.

I’m not fearing and seeing a plague based on those numbers I do not trust from Authorities I do not trust.

Anyway, I only commented that because I try to not sly away, the question, or well meaning challenge was posed, we are just at such polar opposites. I wasn’t trying to debate it tbh, just naturally reacting.

But this, some tapped shit, don’t tell me otherwise.

Tell me this is not pure stage and thearter.

Film stars pose for snaps, for image, effect, publicity, as do businesses, harmlessly of course.

But here is your new, official public “Covid Cleaner”. Looks about to start work.

Except work is, stand in position, look like you are working hard to protect the public from this ever more deadly plague, right???


Stand still now. And once the snapshot is taken, off you go good job guys, we can use that.

There’s nothing but stage and illusion emanating from this. Seriously, you need to see this clip.

 

7 months in jail?
What the fuck?

That is fucked up.

to add to this plague is still here.

its just that we have advanced.

you can not measure the two with what happened in the past as we did not have the

tech we have now.

your not catching plague but trust me its still around and if your a poor person from the third world

you can still catch it.

here is a map with the plague in 1998 (yes its still here so why do you not hear about it)


My friend's brother actually got the plague (in the United States) like 2 or 3 years ago I think it was, there was a small outbreak somewhere (I believe the northeast somewhere, upstate NY maybe, could have been somewhere else but that's where he has lived most of his life). He almost died because he was a homeless junkie and didn't seek help until it was almost too late. But yeah, antibiotics kill the plague. In modern times, the bubonic plague wouldn't have been anything like it is now, except in third world countries without the infrastructure to provide antibiotics. Of course, the impact that the bubonic plague had on the world's population and way of life was FAR beyond what COVID has had so far, a third of Europe's population died and it spanned like 200 years in various waves. No one understood what it was or how it spread, and there was no cure, and living conditions and health care were very bad to begin with. But yeah, if the United States had an outbreak of bubonic plague today, it would result in less death than COVID, because of antibiotics. In fact it probably wouldn't even manage to spread far.

By the way igor, good luck changing anyone's mind, been there done that. The anti-vaccine and "plandemic" sentiment that exists in people is ironclad. And tons of misinformation around about stuff like "more COVID deaths in vaccinated patients than in unvaccinated" and other such stuff. There are even large populations in the small towns around where I live that believe that the vaccine causes a "spike protein disease" and are finally now wearing masks for fear that the vaccinated people are going to give them the spike protein disease. There are fake videos of people being "magnetized" by heavy metals from the vaccine that - somehow - multiply and spread through spike protein multiplication and cause the whole body to become magnetic. Never mind that metals are not proteins. It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to confirm the pre-existing fear that the vaccines and the pandemic are a sinister plot of some sort to control the population.

Don't burn yourself trying to argue, is my point. You won't get anywhere.
 
don't forget about the nanobots




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Profit seekers. Certainly many governments and pharma companies are looking to increase profits/advantage from this situation. I believe in the vaccines and that they are a net good thing, but I also believe pharma is going to look to try to maximize profits in any way they can.

I trust the WHO and CDC over Pfizer any day.
 
you can not measure the two with what happened in the past as we did not have the tech we have now.

You can definitely measure them in the context the outbreaks existed. Otherwise you might as well measure the threat of COVID ten or twenty years from now when a large percent of the world's population is vaccinated.

The plague killed half of the world's population. COVID is never going to do that. Even if we didn't vaccinate at all, it would never do that.

Black death (at the time) was far more of a threat than COVID is now.
 
AutoTripper said:
is it incorrect that they are each classed as having died “with” Covid?

Is it incorrect that people who die from the vaccine die "with" it?
People with AIDS don't die from AIDS. They die with it.
 
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