☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[Deleted member 521610]

edibles are a fucking addictive drug. Spent the last so many nights and days zonked out fully. Need to clean up and put myself to work.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Ordered some ETH_LAD today from the rest of the monero, super excited to try this one... a less stimmy LSD? Hell yeah

Didn't find it less stimmy tbh, + add quite a bit of nausea, muscle stiffness and general hindrances to move as freely as on acid.
You're gonna be in for a big surprise either way not to say that ETH-LAD is bad

 

[Xorkoth]

ETH-LAD is like WAY more visual than LSD. I actually found it quite comfortable, and the state of mind very calm. But many people seem to report that it is quite hectic and can be difficult. Which is weird because TIHKAL reports it as a "less serious" and lighter version of LSD.

 

[Img_9999]

In my experience low doses of ETH-LAD are indeed like a light hearted, earthier LSD, with a bodyload than can be almost sedating at times. But dosing higher it becomes much more confusing and difficult, for me anything over 150 ug results in an uncomfortably strong trip with bad nausea. Only went there twice actually, but never again.

I dont find it particularly tense or stimmy thought.

 

[RainbowWarrior]

I'll give it a fair shot. I doubt it will be causing me more nausea than high dose 2c-e :D , i generally react really well to LSD, and AL-LAD was completely fine @ 2x 150 mics over the course of a day too. I did get some nausea and stomach issues on a few early acid trips, but that most of the times were physical manifestations of set and setting not being ideal...

 

[RainbowWarrior]

Awesome, DHL just brought me my latest batch of lemon skunk that i ordered from the pharmacy

i'm an all legal medical cannabis patient for over 2 years now, still find it funny to have the pharmacy send me cannabis in the mail... my life really changed since i don't have to stress about carrying the sacred herb anymore, i'm actually allowed to travel with it and use cannabis in all of the EU

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

ETH-LAD is so strong, I only took 200ug once but it was very strong and I had to spend the peak lying down in a weird mix between suffering/ecstasy. I can handle all bodyloads fine and rarely have a problem but at that time it was taking away from the trip. Part of acids magic imo is that you can go anywhere, look relatively normal, while still solving all these knots in your mind. Part of it was probably me not being able to fully let go and sink into it but I don't think I'll ever get 100% over it.
The mental effects are fantastic though, and it still has that acid touch of "fuck man, I now know the solution to all my problems"

 

[Deleted member 521610]

i might edibles tonight again idk im so bored and my tolerance is so fucking sky high ill be ok by the next day i reckon . but its straight up addiction to hedonism. So idk its a powerful urge to keep taking them but i need to really get my reports done. Had a nice day sober today but meh this addicts craving for any drug makes me sad im not strong enough to stay sober. And the same fucking patterns arise in life. just another endless cycle i can't escape from drug use. Surrounded by people but feeling alone aint no 1 know how powerful addiction is unless they also suffer from it. Makes me sad that even admitting you are addict makes some people look at you differently.

Even after all that i still would enjoy a little bump of meth tbh to get my ass some energy and working instead of sleeping all day stonned af on edibles.

Mid year ima take 5 tabs with the intention of finally fucking quitting everything that is bad.

 

[RainbowWarrior]

ETH-LAD is so strong, I only took 200ug once but it was very strong and I had to spend the peak lying down in a weird mix between suffering/ecstasy. I can handle all bodyloads fine and rarely have a problem but at that time it was taking away from the trip. Part of acids magic imo is that you can go anywhere, look relatively normal, while still solving all these knots in your mind. Part of it was probably me not being able to fully let go and sink into it but I don't think I'll ever get 100% over it.
The mental effects are fantastic though, and it still has that acid touch of "fuck man, I now know the solution to all my problems"

I'll definitely start with 100mics or even lower. From the ETH-LAD thread i could gather that it seems to have an even steeper dose response curve than regular acid. I've certainly had some strong high dose LSD experiences where i had to lie down and was not at all functional around strangers anymore. Nowadays i basically only take acid outside in nature, dont really like to be in the city even on lower more functional doses. Whereas in the past i didn't mind tripping in big cities, going to museums, etc

i might edibles tonight again idk im so bored and my tolerance is so fucking sky high ill be ok by the next day i reckon . but its straight up addiction to hedonism. So idk its a powerful urge to keep taking them but i need to really get my reports done. Had a nice day sober today but meh this addicts craving for any drug makes me sad im not strong enough to stay sober. And the same fucking patterns arise in life. just another endless cycle i can't escape from drug use. Surrounded by people but feeling alone aint no 1 know how powerful addiction is unless they also suffer from it. Makes me sad that even admitting you are addict makes some people look at you differently.

Even after all that i still would enjoy a little bump of meth tbh to get my ass some energy and working instead of sleeping all day stonned af on edibles.

Mid year ima take 5 tabs with the intention of finally fucking quitting everything that is bad.

So sorry to hear you are struggling with controlling your behavioral patterns! Using drugs responsibly is not something that comes natural to most people. It certainly took me a long time to somewhat figure it out for my life... What really helped me a lot is finding positive patterns (i.e. rituals), for me that's preparing and drinking herbal teas, practicing musical instruments and meditating/praying.

Also just being super busy building a life i enjoy living (the ultimate hedonistic challange ) is something that took so much of my energy that there wasn't much room for these kind of negative patterns anymore, i.e. being a parent and building a business to make a living from. It's really good to have a clear idea of what you want your life to be like and work towards that goal. After getting the parent and business thing down, i had some extra spare time in the last couple of years so i picked up the violin and started to really get into it. It is the first classical instrument i'm learning to play and it's a truly amazing experience. Definitely one of the most difficult things i ever encountered, but that's a good thing, because it means you can spend a whole lifetime trying to master it.

Good luck on your journey! May you find the balance that makes you the most happy you

Oh and one thing that also helps me when modifying the circuitry of my biorobotic being via psychedelics: i try to establish the behavioral change first and then reward myself with a nice trip to reinforce that achievement

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

i'm an all legal medical cannabis patient for over 2 years now, still find it funny to have the pharmacy send me cannabis in the mail... my life really changed since i don't have to stress about carrying the sacred herb anymore, i'm actually allowed to travel with it and use cannabis in all of the EU

Nice! Are you from the US? Or an EU country? If you want to reveal of course in my country even medicinal use is prohibited lol

Oh and one thing that also helps me when modifying the circuitry of my biorobotic being via psychedelics: i try to establish the behavioral change first and then reward myself with a nice trip to reinforce that achievement

I agree...

 

[Xorkoth]

In my experience low doses of ETH-LAD are indeed like a light hearted, earthier LSD, with a bodyload than can be almost sedating at times. But dosing higher it becomes much more confusing and difficult, for me anything over 150 ug results in an uncomfortably strong trip with bad nausea. Only went there twice actually, but never again.

I dont find it particularly tense or stimmy thought.

My only experience with it other than a low dose combo with AL-LAD and ETH-LAD was with 300ug. I found it so overwhelmingly visual that I could barely tell what I was looking at. But the feeling was calm and I almost felt a mescaline-like tranquility in my mind state. I had substantially less introspection or exciting thoughts than with LSD. However to be fair, at the time I still hadn't totally broken through my weird natural tolerance to lysergamides. I bet these days 300ug would be way more intense to me.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

I have experienced ETH-LAD numerous times @~300ug and concur that it is more visually intense at that dosage than one might expect after experiencing dosages @~100-150ug. My thinking is that there is a steeper increase of effect compared to "more traditional" molecules such as LSD, despite a similar threshold of effect at the lower end of dosages.

I actually have more than intended because when I ordered some ALD-52 I was shipped yet more ETH-LAD, LOL.

No problem, none will be wasted, I can assure you .

And I thanked the universe for correcting my order for me.

 

[RainbowWarrior]

Nice! Are you from the US? Or an EU country? If you want to reveal of course in my country even medicinal use is prohibited lol

EU country, due to schengen treaty we are allowed to carry and use our medicine in all schengen countries, even if those countries do not have med. cannabis themselves.

Got some funny looks when i broke out my weed and vaped at the Paris airport :D or the other time when i had gorilla glue with me and had to get the laptop out of my backpack for security and the whole hall started smelling like gorilla glue :D

 

[perpetualdawn]

Fucking ETH-LAD what a stick of dynamite! In the best way of course..

 

[Img_9999]

Yeah, It's an awesome lysergamide, but I must stay below 150 µg to enjoy it. For whatever reason it gets unmanageably intense for me over that. On 200 µg it was the closer to a "bad trip" I've had. Anxiety, extreme confusion and paranoia, restlessness, horrible nausea and vomiting (I think it's actually the only psychedelic that has made me vomit) ... I must admit that in retrospect, in the second of those trips I wasn't in the best metal state to trip, but wasn't in a particularly bad place either, I feel other molecules would be more forgiving. And in the first one I was actually having a good time until my partner, who took the same dose, started seriously freaking out. So maybe if I tried again I could enjoy it in all its intensity hahaha, but not feeling very tempted to go there again.

It's funny though, how at 100 µg it's the total opposite for me. Very clearheaded, lucid, loving, calm. One of my favorite trips ever was on that dose, took it in the evening and spent most of it biking around. Felt amazing body-mind connection and enhanced dexterity, I felt so agile.

 

[perpetualdawn]

When I had a 300ug dose I tried to downplay the nausea and vomiting in my reporting because it was still fairly early on in the timeline of people reporting on the substance and I didn't want to engrave my own experience with it as a permanent character of the drug. But it really was the most nauseous and vomity I've ever felt on a psychedelic, non-ideal when you're tripping absolute balls, hanging on to reality by a few threads.

150ug was awesome, and 75mg was also fantastic. I don't think I've had it at 100ug, but all this talk is really making me want to pull it out and try in the 100-150ug range again. I had no negative physical effects whatsoever at 150 and below. I'd try 200 to see.

ETH-LAD is a drug I think I'll always feel a special kinship for (as weird as that might sound to people who don't hang out on bluelight)

@Cheshire_Kat I agree that it has a steeper curve (say compared to LSD) as you go above 150.

 

[tired of crap]

I’ve only taken ethlad twice at 200&300ug. And the dose response curve is definitely steeper for me than with lsd.

At 200ug the bodyload was manageable, nearly nonexistent, yet the visuals were intense. With a clear yet open headspace that allowed for some work and a beautiful catharsis.

300ug was too much for me at that time. The Oevs were like nothing I’ve seen in years. Alex gray type visuals flashed before my open eyes as the elements of earth, water and fire combined in my rebirth (I was walking barefoot in the grass at a fire in the rain (turns out it wasn’t raining though, who knew lol)). Laying down my essence shot high in to the multiverse and I became connected with the Source.

... which all sounds beautiful but I later tossed my place about in an attempt to prove to a sober friend that material possessions don’t bring happiness (lol).

the bodyload was quite intense with 300ug. Whilst Lying down I was drumming rhythmically on my abdomen, to the psytrance emitting from my little Bluetooth speaker.

Oddly enough I experienced no nausea on either dose.

(I have friends who have tried the same batch, from the same
rather reputable reptilian resaler ...

one friend, with no tolerance yet experienced in the past had almost no effects from 100ug. Yet 200ug has provided lasting relief from his chronic back pain, due to a car accident, for the past 6 months since his trip.

While 2 others, with relative short term tolerance and experience, “never want(ed) to be that high again” on 200ug.

None mentioned any nausea and only the first mentioned a bodyload on the come up that required him to lay down for an hour or so.)

 

[Deleted member 521610]

eth-lad is fucking insanity at high doses that stuff fucking scares me lol.

Feel out of it today without weed to sleep. I should of taken a edible and slept through the horrible aircon broken noise. Idk if its cannabis withdrawls but starting to feel ill. Avoided drinking caffeine today maybe i need to to wake up fully.

 

[Img_9999]

ETH-LAD is a drug I think I'll always feel a special kinship for

I actually feel the same, even after two bad experiences. All the other times were magical.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

lmao saw this.