Please help pregnant on heroin

[Zephyn]

I don’t care what you think you know. Methadone has been studied and is much safer in these scenarios.

Advising someone to do something based off of your opinion or belief is madness and it’s not suitable for this post.

You have no idea how they treat babies who are born to addicted mothers and it’s obvious because you are incorrect in your assumptions.

I stand corrected I suppose, I just can't see how methadone is any safer for a baby, that doesn't make sense. Methadone maintenence carries its risks as well from a quick Google and seems comparable to say, oxycodone. I'm pretty against methadone in general and wish more doctors were.

 

[MsDiz]

I stand corrected I suppose, I just can't see how methadone is any safer for a baby, that doesn't make sense. Methadone maintenence carries its risks as well from a quick Google and seems comparable to say, oxycodone. I'm pretty against methadone in general and wish more doctors were.

Things are weighed up and methadone is the safest suggestion in cases like this.

 

[JessFR]

I stand corrected I suppose, I just can't see how methadone is any safer for a baby, that doesn't make sense. Methadone maintenence carries its risks as well from a quick Google and seems comparable to say, oxycodone. I'm pretty against methadone in general and wish more doctors were.

Go do some googling. This is a VERY well established course of action.

The baby is weened off it and won't ever remember it.

I'm not saying you can't give your opinion, but please at least learn why doctors advise what they advise BEFORE giving advice involving real people.

We aren't doctors, but if you're gonna say something it would be good if you at least researched this at length first. This isn't a hypothetical debate, It's a real person with real consequences.

 

[Zephyn]

Things are weighed up and methadone is the safest suggestion in cases like this.

I'm not so sure, even if a doctor agreed, they wouldn't have the choice to even consider maintenence with a shorter acting opioid, just like they can't with a non pregnant person. So it can't really be fairly weighed up.

I've researched at length methadone vs shorter half life opioids, and stand by what I said in a normal circumstance, but if oxycodone isn't seriously teratogenic, which from a quick glance it doesn't appear to be any worse than methadone, though both carry risks.

 

[SKL]

Things are weighed up and methadone is the safest suggestion in cases like this.

Especially as nobody's giving her any other pharmies and the market for illicit ones is absolutely flooded with fented out crap. And black market shit should be avoided (all the more so if IV'd) as unknown contaminants could be bad for the baby as well.

 

[Zephyn]

As long as it doesn't differ from the pro-life opinion, right?

An abortion is definitely an option. However I'm sure she has weighed that choice and would have mentioned it if she was considering it. As men, sometimes we do need to just shut up.

 

[SKL]

I'm not so sure, even if a doctor agreed, they wouldn't have the choice to even consider maintenence with a shorter acting opioid, just like they can't with a non pregnant person. So it can't really be fairly weighed up.

I've researched at length methadone vs shorter half life opioids, and stand by what I said in a normal circumstance, but if oxycodone isn't seriously teratogenic, which from a quick glance it doesn't appear to be any worse than methadone, though both carry risks.

One of the bigger issues with methadone mainteance is how brutal the withdrawals are. This won't be an issue for the baby, if withdrawals are sufficiently bad, they will give morphine or even fentanyl in the NICU.

An abortion is definitely an option.

Why the fuck would you even say this? I have the other asshole on ignore so I had to click to hear his bullshit, but I'd expect him to be on that level, not so much you.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

think this thread is slightly getting derailed....

 

[Zephyn]

Deleted by mod - not relevant to thread topic. 6am

 

[Sofuckedrn]

Deleted by mod - part and parcel in an effort to rid the city of organized crime

Wanna know what’s even funnier than me making these life decisions with people who care and can relate your so fucking miserable your on here reading my shit? That makes you a fan boo and please please don’t worry about my baby daddy he’s delighted

 

[JessFR]

think this thread is slightly getting derailed....

I made an extraordinary judgement call ... so this thread can get back on track.

I for one think it would be great if we could return to the topic at hand, ....

@Sofuckedrn I'm sorry for his behavior. Hopefully the thread can get back on topic now.

Some of the other mods might be along soon to clean up some of the off topic stuff.

 

[SKL]

Deleted by mod - just another casualty-post in the war on war. 6am

 

[Zephyn]

First problem was taking him seriously, second and bigger problem was talking to a pregnant women on abortion. What the fuck is wrong with people.

Wasn't my intention. For the record, planned parenthood could probably assist in referring her to someone who could help (not an abortion), only reason I reacted to his comment in the first place.

 

[Sofuckedrn]

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think this thread is slightly getting derailed....

i think your right, and sadly so I was enjoying everyone’s input, but I’m just not mature enough to let someone tell me what I should have done with MY body so with my hormones all upset I’ll say goodbye and thank you all!

 

[Coffeeshroom]

NO! fuck them... you at the right place and had the balls to come here and ask. Don't leave. Stay and let the girls here help you in every way they can, you did nothing wrong @Sofuckedrn

Edit: by balls i meant ovaries lol but think you know what i meant.

 

[MsDiz]

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i think your right, and sadly so I was enjoying everyone’s input, but I’m just not mature enough to let someone tell me what I should have done with MY body so with my hormones all upset I’ll say goodbye and thank you all!

He has been removed from the thread and given a temporary ban. He won’t be back on this thread. Please don’t feel the need to leave over one person.

 

[Sofuckedrn]

And he OBVIOUSLY had I’ll intentions with his comment, he made that clear.

 

[ghostfreak]

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i think your right, and sadly so I was enjoying everyone’s input, but I’m just not mature enough to let someone tell me what I should have done with MY body so with my hormones all upset I’ll say goodbye and thank you all!

Please stick around, we’re a good lot here (aside from the obvious).

 

[negrogesic]

Can you tell me why you feel that way? About the methadone? I’ve heard horror stories about the detox from it, but have no personal experience

Methadone withdrawal isn't that bad if you taper slowly. I had a massive heroin habit, switched to giant doses of methadone and tapered off slowly. I never experienced severe withdrawal as a result.

The heroin you are taking almost surely has fentanyl in it if you are in the US. This means you probably have a pretty serious habit and your only real choice is methadone. But methadone gets a bad rap because people taper too fast or cold turkey. When tapered slowly the withdrawal is actually rather mild.

Again, methadone is probably the best option here. You are going to have to let your doctor know what is going on for the sake of the child

 

[Sofuckedrn]

I don’t understand why people want to bring people down and make them feel worse, I already feel like the biggest piece of shit ever. I didn’t get pregnant on purpose, I’ve been with my boyfriend three years now and when we went to sober living and got clean well some of you know how that goes. Due to my Christian beliefs I couldn’t bring myself to have an abortion but the stress of being pregnant was too much people like him make me want to prove him wrong yes I’m an addict I’ve made more mistakes than I care to admit but I’m not worthless my baby isn’t worthless maybe he’s here to save me...