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Xorkoth said:
Delta-8 was totally legal and is a natural cannabinoid, which just isn't present in large enough concentrations in marijuana to be a major factor in the effects of it. It is produced in America by distillation from hemp flower, it's not synthetic. Well, it was produced this way anyway, they illegalized it like a week ago, though all the same places are still selling it, but I don't think they will be making more.
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I assumed it was some type of thc oil. First I'd heard of the stuff. I might try some now before it's gone for good. The reason I stayed away from oils was the big panic about a year ago when so many people were ending up in the ER from vaping. They were blaming nicotine vapes but everyone I personally knew that had problems were buying thc cartridges off the street. People were bringing them in where I lived claiming they were from legit shops out west. What they were doing was packaging low quality oil into bootleg packages they were getting from China. They were adding something to the low quality oil to thicken it up. The name of the chemical escapes me now.

I tried some of it and it was obvious it wasn't good product. You could taste the butane and chemicals in it. I'd done good oil in the past so I instantly knew. People around here with less experience with the stuff were buying it constantly and suffering problems as a result. I think word finally got around during the vape scare and I haven't seen it for sale anywhere since. Everyone pretty much went back to flower or making their own oil/dabs. Not really a fan of dabs because they get me way too high and instant panic attacks.

I've noticed that brick weed isn't anywhere to be found now as well. No one deals in the stuff anymore so you're pretty much forced to buy quality flower if you want to smoke here now. I held out for a long time smoking the lower quality stuff until I couldn't get it anymore. Now I just get the good stuff and smoke much less of it. I didn't like top shelf flower for the longest time. What was available locally gave me the same issues I get from doing dabs. I wish I was in a legal state so I could try different strains instead of playing luck of the draw. Everyone wants to buy and sell the stuff that is nearly on par with an LSD trip. I want the couch lock/pain killing strains that make me sleepy but I rarely find flower like that anymore. When I lived in a semi-legal state it was available so I know it's out there.
 
Last night I woke up an hour after falling asleep feeling restless and anxious, with a lot of neck tension and a general sense of physical discomfort. Last sunday night I had exactly the same thing happen. I figured; the only common element in those two events, besides taking place in a sunday night, is that both times I took Phenibut the day before.

I never had this happened from phenibut, but could it be some sort of rebound anxiety? I know this could happen if I was using daily and the stopped. But for only one use ??? Has anyone ever had this happen?
 
I got some Delta-8 carts from a very legit distributor and they're frickin' amazing. I used some on psilacetin last week and there was no anxiety but a very heavy stone. Hope I can get a few more, but they were pricey...
 
I don't want to be specific, but delta 8 stuff is really cheap right now at least where I know where to get it, because they're trying to unload it all. Like really fucking cheap.

Hylight said:
My point is ; why is something organic being banned ? Just seems very nefarious honestly speaking. That's all.
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Well, weed is illegal and it's natural, so are mushrooms, etc. It shouldn't be the case, but it is anyway.

HeadphonesandLSD said:
I assumed it was some type of thc oil. First I'd heard of the stuff. I might try some now before it's gone for good. The reason I stayed away from oils was the big panic about a year ago when so many people were ending up in the ER from vaping. They were blaming nicotine vapes but everyone I personally knew that had problems were buying thc cartridges off the street. People were bringing them in where I lived claiming they were from legit shops out west. What they were doing was packaging low quality oil into bootleg packages they were getting from China. They were adding something to the low quality oil to thicken it up. The name of the chemical escapes me now.
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Yeah the bootleg cartridges had vitamin E acetate added, which caused serious lung problems and killed some people.
 
Going to try here because I know folks around here get around: I'm looking for anyone currently growing hemp commercially. I want to ask them about their operation because I'm thinking of setting up next year to grow it. I'm interested in how much of a PITA it is to deal with the permits and everything. If you know anyone or are growing it yourself please send me a private message. Thanks.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
Going to try here because I know folks around here get around: I'm looking for anyone currently growing hemp commercially. I want to ask them about their operation because I'm thinking of setting up next year to grow it. I'm interested in how much of a PITA it is to deal with the permits and everything. If you know anyone or are growing it yourself please send me a private message. Thanks.
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You should also just find hemp farms online and email them. I'm sure if you e-mailed 20 you'd get at least a few responses.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
Going to try here because I know folks around here get around: I'm looking for anyone currently growing hemp commercially. I want to ask them about their operation because I'm thinking of setting up next year to grow it. I'm interested in how much of a PITA it is to deal with the permits and everything. If you know anyone or are growing it yourself please send me a private message. Thanks.
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I believe the THC limit in the US is 0.3% as well? (I am in the EU). I know people who grow CBD cannabis commercially here and it can be a pain in the ass to stay below the limit because even with good genetics, it can happen that they have to throw away a whole batch because they are over. this is especially true for unstable growing conditions I believe (eg outdoors).
 
went through 2.5 grams of ketamine this week was deep in the k hole every night for long hours finally managed to bring back good insights this time instead of just amnesia. Reality feels very different today really need to get some sleep tonight.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
went through 2.5 grams of ketamine this week was deep in the k hole every night for long hours finally managed to bring back good insights this time instead of just amnesia. Reality feels very different today really need to get some sleep tonight.
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Don't fuck up your bladder doing K regularly. Or build a permatolerance to it.
 
Well here I am, nearly 3 weeks into detox, and I woke up at the crack of dawn very restless, having strange and tedious dreams, tossing and turning. Got up and had some food and a shower, since then I've had a pretty intense amount of anxiety fluttering in my solar plexus. It's odd, for the past week I've felt a lot better than this. Sigh... oh well. This too shall pass.
 
Xorkoth said:
Well here I am, nearly 3 weeks into detox, and I woke up at the crack of dawn very restless, having strange and tedious dreams, tossing and turning. Got up and had some food and a shower, since then I've had a pretty intense amount of anxiety fluttering in my solar plexus. It's odd, for the past week I've felt a lot better than this. Sigh... oh well. This too shall pass.
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Lay in the sun. The Nitric Oxide it produces is immediately relaxing - it dilates blood vessels and relaxes muscles, and more.
 
Stay strong Xork. I’ve been on this journey with you in spirit. I’m almost 3 weeks without kratom and this week has definitely been the worst as far as anxiety. And my eye is still constantly twitching.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel tho.
 
Nice man I forgot you also quit it again.

I'm feeling better now than I did earlier. I'm about to work out, I'm so much more in shape than I've been since after ibogaine, years ago. I stubbed my toe so bad I feared it was fractured yesterday but fortunately today it doesn't hurt much, whew,
 
Well if it makes you guys feel better I had kratom today and will have gabapentinbn for the first time in a week later. Yet I have periods of anxiety, dread, shoulder pain, etc... But 3 weeks without kratom is a big thing. It has been a few years since I did that. I am willing to bet by 30 days both of you will feel much better. Then again I tend to not get PAWS. Once I feel better I feel stoked I did something so tough. So at 3 weeks without kratom I would give the sky a thumbs up! As far as gaba's I can't comment as I never got addicted. But I imagine it takes time.

Hope everyone is doing well.
 
Friday night, a few cannabis products and some Lyrica earlier - first day without phenibut for a while. Trying to go for every second day, and then just make it a weekend thing.

The euphoria I get from it is unreal, makes music sound like it's coming from space! A few years of daily use, never built a tolerance. Still risky taking it ever day, especially when it's banned here and looks like it's going out of fashion in a number of other places too.

@Xorkoth best of luck to you on your whole gettin-shit-together journey. At the very least, it's caused me to consider my daily habits and whether they actually worth it. Some I can find reason in, others not so much. Opioids for instance.
 
Thanks guys. :) For me right now it's not just kratom, but also phenibut. I got addicted to GHB earlier this year and then did phenibut to get off... I have the kindling effect pretty bad from phenibut and opiates. It's more likely to be residual phenibut than it is to be residual opiate, I think. I quit both at once, plus I also quit nicotine (and actually had withdrawal for the first time ever), and also alcohol (never had withdrawal but it's been a go-to for evening anxiety relief on a regular basis).

Lyrica is so good, it's nuts, I also get really sublime euphoria from it, and it's almost psychedelic for me, I get some visuals (not the same as serotonergic) and everything feels like a magical journey, it really does remind me of psychedelics quite a bit, but also very different.
 
I think ketamine has rewritten my mind and brain music sounds way different than before this binge. Reality looks extra hd depression has gone the world is more vivid and music sounds way more detailed. I think it also lessened my PTSD by a considerable degree from my last k-hole. I also saw the negative side effects of delusional thoughts while in the k hole i started to think i was invincible and in this god state i would be immune to bullets. Im out of ketamine and its fucking expensive so i can't afford anymore for a few months but i like this new state its like im finally been liberated from a childhood of pain and trauma feel more tuned into this reality. Started to be able to control the k hole. If this new found balance lasts i won't take psychedelics incase they lose this contempt feeling i have.
 
Yeah I get visuals from gabapentin and pregabalin. I treat my one week use like a trip. l theanine mixed in also kicks up the visuals. Which to me makes me wonder about the whole agonist, antagonist effect of dissociatives. I read here l theanine could stop a dissociative trip. Yet it synergizes with gabapentin and pregabalin. I do think pregablin is stronger, but I also get head shocks that freak me out like I am going to have a seizure. Gabapentin is gentler so I tend to reach for that. But I see how pregabalin is stronger.

TripSitterNZ take the time to digest and reflect on what you learned. Too many times people steam roll over the lessons by overwritting the experience with another experience and never really get the lessons. A nice break from substances will help. Maybe practice some breathing exercises to make the mind muscle stronger. I try and do that,not sure how successful I am at it but I do practice that form of Yoga. Focus is tough but being fully present iin each moment is the goal.

One acid trip, 3 DMT trips and 4 4-aco-dmt trips this year. So glad killer doses are circulating. But yeah, it is sparse for me but I can't keep going like when I was younger. I have to go in, digest and integrate these days.
 
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