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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Talk Thread: Swirly Congregation That's 100% Pandemic-Proof

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4-AcO- trypts don't degrade rapidly do they? I shared some 20mg psilacetin with a friend and he said it was much less potent than the last time he tripped that same amount. I'm not sure if outside factors could be at play, such as addition of other drugs, etc. I just feel bad when I tell someone 20mg will knock their socks off (it does for me still) and then it doesn't... I keep all my drugs at room temp (68-76 F), do you think that's warm enough to heavily degrade psilacetin?
 
The AcO trypts seem to last longer than their HO counterparts. Nevertheless, I keep all of my tryptamines in vials, in the freezer, and just make sure to let them warm to room temperature before opening them. From what I understand, you can see degradation from trypts in the color change.

What a relief :p
Also, Uehara is awesome, I actually saw her perform a couple of years ago and was blown away !

Wow, lucky!! 8o I would absolutely jump at the chance, I have seen stuff on Youtube that made me cry, and left me slack-jawed. Such a wonderful performer. I've never seen anyone with as much soul on stage. I have been told I dance and show every emotion on my face when I perform too, so it's something I really connect with. :)
 
I have a crew at my house today, taking down the dying tree that has been threatening to fall for years (and which has dropped a large limb on my roof and put a hole in it... now I have a brand new roof so I'm relieved to be having this dealt with). They're going to cut up the trunk into sections and leave it at the top of my driveway... it's an ~80 foot tall white oak, so that means I will have at least another winter of firewood from it, once I split it all. :) And since I really enjoy splitting firewood, it's a win-win!
 
The AcO trypts seem to last longer than their HO counterparts. Nevertheless, I keep all of my tryptamines in vials, in the freezer, and just make sure to let them warm to room temperature before opening them. From what I understand, you can see degradation from trypts in the color change.
I keep mine in the same condition (amber vials) aside from refrigerating it. I haven't noticed a color change. I'm thinking I just misweighed what I gave to my friend.

Nevertheless, I wonder... I feel that refrigeration brings up too much chance of moisture damage and that's why I stick to room temp storage.
 
Freezer is better than refrigerator. It's not something to worry about if you keep things in airtight vials, and don't open them when they're cold. I keep my phenethylamines and dissos in my closet at room temperature, but my tryptamines and lysergamides (the packs of 10 I vacuum seal, not the opened ones) in the freezer. My AL-LAD and ETH-LAD degraded a good bit before I started doing that over 2 years, they haven't darkened even a little bit more over almost 2 more years since I started keeping them in the freezer. A.ll of my tryptamines look and feel the same as the day I put them in there.
 
I think it feels pretty removed here, personally, no one I know in real life has mentioned a single thing about it. The Internet makes it sound really scary, there have been a few cases. Some people on the Internet are convinced this is going to be the thing to cull the human population on the planet, and/or that it's a bioweapon. I saw someone suggest it's a secret plot by Bill Gates to curb the global population. 8)
 
Nevertheless, I wonder... I feel that refrigeration brings up too much chance of moisture damage and that's why I stick to room temp storage.

I feel like I ruined acid some years ago by putting in the freezer and probably just opening the bag it was in without care. I also had some of the same batch at room temp that were just fine though. So I have been leary of refrigerating or freezing anything. Also the only thing I had to store was DPT, 2CB, cactus and they last forever. But I too have some 4-ACO-DMT that is nice and white and I have it in two airtight jars in a cool basement but may move it to the freezer soon. CG, I think other factors made your friend trip less potent. Probably had nothing to do with any degredation. I just read through all the big and dandy's for it and people even had black goop that worked fine. I am also assuming I have fumerate, as I think I read after it was released that it was discovered the other forms did turn colors and breakdown quicker than fumerate. But even people that had black HCL said it was just as strong. Ah, I am new to this, not a RC guy but very happy to at least have a little of this

Seems every few years there is a virus, like bird flu, SARS, swine flu, west nile, etc... and the media makes it sound like death. In reality most of us would get it, then recover. 3M is making a mint off of those N95 masks thanks to the media. People are fighting and pushing old people out of the way to get them. It is like the twilight zone.

I hope everyone is well. :)
 
Seems every few years there is a virus, like bird flu, SARS, swine flu, west nile, etc... and the media makes it sound like death. In reality most of us would get it, then recover. 3M is making a mint off of those N95 masks thanks to the media. People are fighting and pushing old people out of the way to get them. It is like the twilight zone.

Those masks now sell for over $170 usd ea in japan and the shelves are empty massive money is been made.

But those don't even protect you, they're only useful when you're sick so you don't infect others. lul

But this will get interesting for sure. I want to see how is it it when they try to quarantine cities or countries in Europe like in China.
Makes me really wonder how they do it, lockdown like 50 million people in China. Make you really think how different life is in other parts of the world.

Imagine NYC or LA being in quarantine.
 
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I think it feels pretty removed here, personally, no one I know in real life has mentioned a single thing about it. The Internet makes it sound really scary, there have been a few cases. Some people on the Internet are convinced this is going to be the thing to cull the human population on the planet, and/or that it's a bioweapon. I saw someone suggest it's a secret plot by Bill Gates to curb the global population. 8)

What news do you follow btw? Local news and else? Can you give some reliable US news sites?
Weird that no one has mentioned it irl, at least here it is in every news and I would think it is 1000x more in news there. Maybe it's the groups you hang out with.
 
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It's on the news constantly but none of my friends really watch TV. I listen to public radio for news and also participate in the CEPS forum a lot. I mean I'm sure my friends know about it but it doesn't come up as a topic of conversation when we hang out.

We have barely seen any cases in American yet, once it hits here everyone will be talking about it I'm sure.
 
I read all my news on NPR and sometimes the BBC. The BBC is a bit biased. NPR is pretty unbiased and informative. Used to listen every day on the drive to work, then at 11am when Fresh Air with Terry Grose would come on and I'd be out at lunch.

I'm not scared of this. I've had a flu before, and that's essentially all this is. Plus the world could use a good cleansing of the elderly population. I'm not saying anyone deserves to die, but my g-ma still calls black folks the n-word in public, my point being, a lot of American voters were alive in the Jim Crow years and still believe in that bull, among other evils.
 
It's on the news constantly but none of my friends really watch TV. I listen to public radio for news and also participate in the CEPS forum a lot.

CEPS, an EU think tank? Why lend your brain to another continent? I'm sure there are still some problems left where you are, heh..
 
I'm not scared of this. I've had a flu before, and that's essentially all this is.

Well the mortality rate is about 2.5% so far, which is about 25 times greater than the flu. The flu kills more people because it is always a global pandemic every year. You're much more likely to die from this than the flu, IF you get it. To put it into perspective though, the Spanish flu of 1918 had about a 2.5% mortality rate, and it killed an estimated 100 million people worldwide in 2 waves. Of course if the Spanish flu happened again, the mortality rate would be lower, as that was 1918 and we have much greater medical technology at this point. Which also highlights the real risk with this new Coronavirus, even with our technology today and people receiving modern care, 2.5% are dying.

SARS had about a 10% mortality rate, and there is another related one there was an outbreak of with a 30% mortality rate. But those were not easily transmissible and this disease is about as transmissible as the flu. It is basically 100% for sure going to spread to every country, it's already spread to a large portion of them. It does kill the elderly and also chronic smokers most often.

I'm not too worried either but this really isn't just the flu. It has very different symptoms, as little is known about it yet, and it has 25 times the mortality rate of the flu (though still far lower than some deadlier diseases).

I got this information from an epidemiologist on an NPR interview (which I also get most of my news from, on the radio while I'm driving :))
 
The other day when I was at band practice, my girl's dad showed up unannounced (he likes to do this), while she was there. She really didn't want to see him, but she let him in. He immediately started talking about himself and how victimized he is by the world (this is all he does, he's exhausting to be around). His wife is divorcing him so he was talking about that (and has been for like a year, the only topic of conversation it's possible to have with him). At some point he started telling her that he has PTSD from his wife and he can't be around people yelling anymore, and how he would NEVER do that to ANYONE. She was like what the fuck dad. Because that is exactly what happened to her, she has childhood PTSD from him and it affects every area of her life, in fact I have rarely ever seen someone so beat down as her. She never stands up to him or tells him how she actually feels because she's scared to. But this time she was like dad, that's bullshit and I'll tell you why, it's because I have PTSD from you doing EXACTLY that, and other things. It affects every aspect of my life and I feel like my life is ruined because of it, so don't tell me about how you'd never do that to anyone. He was all like "why would you say that to me??". Then he tried to hug her but it was a forced hug and she was trying to push him away but he forced it to happen. She told me that that was part of what she always hated about him, was unwanted touching. Now I don't think she means sexually but just like, she hated him and resented him and he would always try to force the type of parent to child intimacy he wanted for himself against his kids' wills.

Anyway she was like "don't fucking touch me!" in a yell and he was pissed at her because "you yelled at me right after I told you I have PTSD". Then she felt guilty and apologized and he acted all victimized. And then she calmly said she needed him to really understand how what he did messed her up. She has always held on to this desperate hope he would change and be able to admit what he did. and it keeps her in this cycle of keeping him in her life, and every time they interact she's very depressed a cries for days. So she explained that she feels trapped in life and can't stand up for herself and feels powerless and is terribly depressed and has been anxious her entire life, because of his yelling, over-controlling nature, some cases of whipping, and so on. And she gave examples of particular situations from her childhood and asked if he remembered. He was like, I don't remember that. Then he was like wait, you know what I just realized? I realized that none of that ever happened. Actually it was your mother's fault (his exact words). Which is super fucked up in several ways, first of all his suffering daughter is explaining her pain from his actions and asking him to own it and he denies it entirely, and then does a 180 and puts the blame on her mother, who was also a victim. She snapped and told him to get the fuck out of her house and she doesn't want to see him again. He was like okay fine but only because I decided to leave. And then left.

Her siblings both hate him and have no relationship with him whatsoever, won't even reply to his calls or texts. They basically did what my girl just did years ago. I'm really proud of her for standing up to him, it's the first time she ever fully has in her life. I'm also really proud of her that she hasn't perpetuated the cycle of abuse... her dad's dad abused him and it's reason he is the way he is. My girl abuses herself which sucks but she doesn't abuse anyone else and is a really good person. Since then she's been notably happier and more at ease, I hope it lasts and is the beginning of some true healing for her. I think she's finally let go of the idea that he could change and now she can work on accepting it and letting it go. I worry though that he is going to start threatening suicide... he did that to his kids when his wife left him. He has no one, his kids won't talk to him and he doesn't really have friends anymore and he's really depressed. I feel bad for him but at the same time, fuck him. But if he starts threatening suicide again my girl is going to feel massively guilty and will almost for sure let him back in. Which I'm sure I would do too. But god damn the guy is toxic. He's ruined her and it makes me so angry.
 
is al-lad more potent than 1cp? is 75mcg a good dose for a light trip while i get shit done today? or should i take the rest of thr 150ug blotter before the acute tolerance sets in? i want it to equal like 100ug of 1cp.

no tolerance. months since i tripped. but i gotta ride my bike around town and do errands and stuff. i'll probably snort some 3-meo-pce with it.

edit: just googled and reddit says it's weaker. taking the full 150. if someone sees this in the next 5 minutes and says i'm wrong, i'll spit.

edit again: actually, fuck that. i don't wanna hear i took the wrong dose after i already took it. i just took 150ug of al-lad for the first time and am going to enjoy it. cheers.
 
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No, AL-LAD is less potent than LSD, or any of its 1-sub analogues (1p, 1cp, 1a (ALD-52), etc), as well as less potent than ETH-LAD. 150ug is a starter dose for me, I prefer 300ug of AL-LAD but 150ug is nice, about equivalent to 80 or maybe 100ug of LSD. 1cp-LSD seems equipotent to LSD.

150ug is perfect for a first time. :)
 
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