Have YOU ever been to a psychic? Do YOU believe in telepathy?

[Mycophile]

My cousin had a dream about her dad dying and he was not sick or in hospice or hospital, but was older. She woke up, went to visit him and my uncle had died unexpectedly to the rest of the family in his sleep.

Yup, this kind of stuff has been happening forever.

I really do believe that psychic abilities exist, to an extent, but I am not sure i buy the idea that someone can just call upon them at will and predict anyone's future or read someone's mind.

That seems far fetched to me.

 

[Mycophile]

Oh, here's another weird one my dad had which is NUTS and might make us consider the role of alcohol when it comes to photographic memory.

Many years ago my dad was in a subway in NYC and saw some random guy he never remembered seeing before.

The guy came up to him and said (I'm leaving out specific names here for privacy reasons) ''I remember that you were standing next to ''so and so'' at the ''so and so party'' on November 22nd, 1964 (that's a made up date, and my dad doesn't remember the exact date mentioned ).

The party in question that my dad had been to had been about 10 years earlier give or take.

My dad said ''you know, I don't remember you, but yeah, I was going to parties at that location around that time, so that sounds correct.''

The other guy goes ''I'm drunk right now, and whenever I get drunk I have a photographic memory, but not when I'm sober, and that's why whenever I had to study for a test in college I would study while drunk and then I'd almost always get an A.''

FREAKING NUTS.

I wonder by what mechanism this particular guy could have obtained a photographic memory only while drunk, or perhaps it could also have happened on other GABA-ergics or benzos for all we know, but not while sober.

I am telling you guys, as if you need to be told lol, that there's so much we don't know about the human brain.

IF somehow humanity exists long enough i think we'll eventually have answers to questions like these, and hopefully even the ability to harness these powers, but i don't know if we will.

They say that the average person can only use 4 percent of their brain and people like Einstein and Hawking can use 10 percent, so just imagine that other 90 percent and what it can do.

That said, I think it's important to stay grounded in reality and not go off believing in magic and that anything and everything is possible.

For example, I have a very good friend who runs a music festival every year during the summer and did so for several years, and before the festival he'd always do a rain dance to make sure that it wouldn't rain during his festival, which i think was only like a 2-3 day festival during a nice time of year, and because it never did he now believes he can control the weather HAHAHAHAH.

I was like ''ummm, dude...do you think maybe that could be a coincidence? Like, that's summer and it's usually a nice time of year and we are only talking like 2-3 days for about 5 years in a row so probability wise it's really more likely that it just didn't rain for other normal reasons and not cause you did a rain dance...''

He was like ''ok, well, we can agree to disagree on that'' lol.

GREAT guy, one of my best friends, yes, also a bit of a hippy who has experimented with a number of psychedelics, though he's really pretty straight and sober now and a totally healthy and admirable SUPER hard working dude, but he just has that one quirk about him lol...

So yeah, i believe SOME psychic abilities are possible, but i call bullshit on controlling the weather or being able to move external objects with your mind or anything like that lol.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Oh, here's another weird one my dad had which is NUTS and might make us consider the role of alcohol when it comes to photographic memory.

Many years ago my dad was in a subway in NYC and saw some random guy he never remembered seeing before.

The guy came up to him and said (I'm leaving out specific names here for privacy reasons) ''I remember that you were standing next to ''so and so'' at the ''so and so party'' on November 22nd, 1964 (that's a made up date, and my dad doesn't remember the exact date mentioned ).

The party in question that my dad had been to had been about 10 years earlier give or take.

My dad said ''you know, I don't remember you, but yeah, I was going to parties at that location around that time, so that sounds correct.''

The other guy goes ''I'm drunk right now, and whenever I get drunk I have a photographic memory, but not when I'm sober, and that's why whenever I had to study for a test in college I would study while drunk and then I'd almost always get an A.''

FREAKING NUTS.

I wonder by what mechanism this particular guy could have obtained a photographic memory only while drunk, or perhaps it could also have happened on other GABA-ergics or benzos for all we know, but not while sober.

I am telling you guys, as if you need to be told lol, that there's so much we don't know about the human brain.

IF somehow humanity exists long enough i think we'll eventually have answers to questions like these, and hopefully even the ability to harness these powers, but i don't know if we will.

They say that the average person can only use 4 percent of their brain and people like Einstein and Hawking can use 10 percent, so just imagine that other 90 percent and what it can do.

That said, I think it's important to stay grounded in reality and not go off believing in magic and that anything and everything is possible.

For example, I have a very good friend who runs a music festival every year during the summer and did so for several years, and before the festival he'd always do a rain dance to make sure that it wouldn't rain during his festival, which i think was only like a 2-3 day festival during a nice time of year, and because it never did he now believes he can control the weather HAHAHAHAH.

I was like ''ummm, dude...do you think maybe that could be a coincidence? Like, that's summer and it's usually a nice time of year and we are only talking like 2-3 days for about 5 years in a row so probability wise it's really more likely that it just didn't rain for other normal reasons and not cause you did a rain dance...''

He was like ''ok, well, we can agree to disagree on that'' lol.

GREAT guy, one of my best friends, yes, also a bit of a hippy who has experimented with a number of psychedelics, though he's really pretty straight and sober now and a totally healthy and admirable SUPER hard working dude, but he just has that one quirk about him lol...

So yeah, i believe SOME psychic abilities are possible, but i call bullshit on controlling the weather or being able to move external objects with your mind or anything like that lol.

Yeah I have memories of blackouts that I was able to recall while extremely drunk.

I never consumed alcohol or other drugs, besides low doses of Dexedrine before any sort of exams.

 

[Mycophile]

Yeah I have memories of blackouts that I was able to recall while extremely drunk.

I never consumed alcohol or other drugs, besides low doses of Dexedrine before any sort of exams.

Yeah, but this guy literally got drunk to pass tests cause his memory was better.

I wonder biochemically speaking what the explanation could be, but i'm sure it's something fascinating.

 

[cduggles]

Maybe he studied drunk:

Alcohol
Information encoded and stored while intoxicated, see state-dependent memory, is retrieved more effectively when an individual is intoxicated as compared to being sober. State-dependent memory is one example of encoding specificity. If an individual encodes information while intoxicated he or she, ideally, should match that state when attempting to recall the encoded information. This type of state-dependent effect is strongest with free recall rather than when strong retrieval cues are present.[16]
This finding is a variation of the context-dependency effect of the encoding specificity principle and is much more apparent with low-imagery words than high-imagery words. Both high and low imagery words, however, are less likely to be recalled while intoxicated due to the inherent nature of intoxication.[17] This principle demonstrates the significance of encoding specificity; the contextual state of intoxication provides retrieval cues and information that are superior to and outweigh the negative effects on memory from a depressant substance that activates GABA and inhibits neurotransmission. In this regard, this encoding specific context trumps the importance of such neural brain activity.

Encoding specificity principle - Wikipedia

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[Mycophile]

Maybe he studied drunk:

Encoding specificity principle - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I'm not good with this kind of stuff so i am finding that pretty confusing.

Could you please give me a TLDR not-so-good with science-layman's version?

LOL

My dad said that the guy said he did study and/or take tests while drunk, i think both, but the thing is is that he had a photographic memory for EVERYTHING in his life when drunk.

So my dad had no clue who he was, nor do i think the guy even knew my dad's name, but when he saw my dad on the subway, because he happened to have been drunk at the time, he was suddenly able to recall that he'd seen my dad standing next to some other random guy at a very specific party 10 years earlier and was right about it.

My dad said the guy told him that whenever he'd get drunk he would remember all sorts of very minute details from many many years earlier perfectly, but that he could not do so while sober, so this doesn't sound like some kind of way of consciously retaining information by getting drunk.

I mean yes, it was in terms of his taking the tests and i think probably also studying while drunk, and I'll have to ask my dad to clarify if the guy said it was only one or the other, if my dad even knows....but it seems to be not so much that the guy studied drunk but TOOK THE TESTS DRUNK and aced them because alcohol somehow had the effect on his brain of giving him a temporarily photographic memory until he sobered up.

Almost like a super human ability that is totally dependent on being drunk.

Would that explanation you provided account for this kind of strange alcohol-dependent ability this guy had?

 

[cduggles]

I get what you mean, it’s just that the story reminded me of an interesting factoid, which is that have better recall if they are in the same state of mind as when they encode them.
This effect is so strong that people who are drunk recall things better that they learned when drunk.
So maybe the guy was drunk at the party, encoded that memory and recalled seeing your dad because because he was drunk.
Does it explain a photographic memory? No.
But it explains how he might recognize your dad.
Beyond that, maybe he has a good memory for faces and severe test anxiety?
I can’t explain it, in other words.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Yeah, but this guy literally got drunk to pass tests cause his memory was better.

I wonder biochemically speaking what the explanation could be, but i'm sure it's something fascinating.

I have heard of people doing this. Where if they study for an exam drunk or stoned they will take the exam drunk or stoned so they can remember what they studied for drunk or stoned.

I have noticed that a lot of horoscopes or even supposed psychics or mediums that are on TV speak very generally. One supposed medium Lorraine Warren thought that mirrors are satanic and never went to a home she did not believe was haunted.

Ed and Lorraine Warren - Wikipedia

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[ChemicallyEnhanced]

LOL do people actually still believe psychics and mediums in this day and age? They are all 100% lying to you. All the famous ones have pretty much been proven freudsters.
They're purposely extremely vague and they all get info on audiences from spies in the building listening etc.

 

[iridescentblack]

That's not far-fetched. My dad had a buddy in the army who could speak fluent German (but only) when he was drunk.

 

[Mycophile]

I get what you mean, it’s just that the story reminded me of an interesting factoid, which is that have better recall if they are in the same state of mind as when they encode them.
This effect is so strong that people who are drunk recall things better that they learned when drunk.
So maybe the guy was drunk at the party, encoded that memory and recalled seeing your dad because because he was drunk.
Does it explain a photographic memory? No.
But it explains how he might recognize your dad.
Beyond that, maybe he has a good memory for faces and severe test anxiety?
I can’t explain it, in other words.

Yeah, what this guy was talking about goes beyond what you are saying.

This guy wasn't learning all sorts of things while he was drunk and then remembering them when he later got drunk, he was a normal guy who suddenly when he would get drunk would start remembering all sorts of random minute details that would never have occurred to him otherwise.

I don't know if the guy was drunk at the party, but in the short conversation my dad had with him the guy was essentially saying that whenever he gets drunk he can remember all sorts of random details.

Like maybe he had only driven to a specific person's house one time in his life, and the drive was very complex with many twists and turns, but then he got drunk...and of course driving drunk isn't good hahah......and PERFECTLY remembered the way there even though he was NOT drunk the first time he was there.

Or he had entirely forgotten that he had seen a particular movie when he was 3 years old, and then one day he got drunk and suddenly the perfect memory of every scene in the movie popped into his head.

He was essentially saying getting drunk enabled him to remember all sorts of random details that had nothing to do with imbibing alcohol when he learned them.

He happened to use it to his advantage to take tests, but it seemed not to be based on whether or not he was drunk when he learned the information.

Crazy stuff, so who knows the explanation.

 

[Mycophile]

LOL do people actually still believe psychics and mediums in this day and age? They are all 100% lying to you. All the famous ones have pretty much been proven freudsters.
They're purposely extremely vague and they all get info on audiences from spies in the building listening etc.

I don't buy psychic mediums that you can pay to read the future, but my mom really did predict her father's death in a dream, and several other things in her life, and there have been many many cases of prophetic dreams throughout history that later came true.

It generally seems to be something a person learns will happen ahead of time, but they can't call upon it at will or change the outcome is what it seems like to me.

 

[Mycophile]

I have heard of people doing this. Where if they study for an exam drunk or stoned they will take the exam drunk or stoned so they can remember what they studied for drunk or stoned.

I have noticed that a lot of horoscopes or even supposed psychics or mediums that are on TV speak very generally. One supposed medium Lorraine Warren thought that mirrors are satanic and never went to a home she did not believe was haunted.

Ed and Lorraine Warren - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yeah but again, I THINK, though i'm not sure my dad really knows for sure cause he just spoke to this random guy for a minute, that the guy was saying that he didn't need to have done something drunk initially to recall it while later getting drunk, but that once drunk he would simply remember all sorts of random details that he'd have no way of remembering otherwise; memories formed while he was not initially inebriated.

I don't know though, i think this was a very brief conversation so perhaps it really was that he only remembered things that had happened while he was drunk when he got drunk.

 

[Xorkoth]

I've never been to a psychic. However I have clearly heard my ex-wife ask me questions, but she didn't speak out loud. Also on 3 separate occasions, a close friend and I have, not having talked on the phone for like 6 months or something, picked up the phone to call each other at the exact same time such that when we pressed send, one of us had pressed it just before and the other answered so quickly that it never actually rang, the result being we were on the line instantly (this was before smart phones when there was a physical button for sending and receiving).

Also, this New year's Eve that just passed, I was vaporizing on top of LSD, and this guy I just met that night and I connected minds. He was not smoking DMT, it was just me, but he was describing to me everything that was happening as it was happening, stuff I was seeing and experiencing. We talked about it afterwards, it was really profound for him as well. Then 2 nights later, out of nowhere I started having a panic attack, I don't get panic attacks either (I have had one before this but it's not a "thing" for me), it was really weird because I was in a great mood and having a great night. I found out the next morning that the new friend I connected minds with ODd and died about the same time I had a panic attack.

I try my best to maintain skepticism in the face of seemingly "magical" occurrences. But I really can't deny what I experienced. It redefined my idea of what is possible and of how connected we all are.

 

[iridescentblack]

I've never been to a psychic. However I have clearly heard my ex-wife ask me questions, but she didn't speak out loud.

I have had instances like that before. This next piece is mostly unrelated to that: My father will sometimes tell me something and then respond to questions I can hear in a kind of ether, but my mind is usually a big black empty, so these are questions he might think I'm thinking but he's responding to his own telepathy. For example: one time he was reading the paper and laughing and I jokingly said, "It's not funny." and he responded with "No it's not." and then I heard a voice in the ether or whatever say, "You'd better stop that." and then he said, "I don't care." This actually happens a lot with my father where he thinks he's reading my mind and yet I usually am thinking nothing. Such is how I think it goes for a lot of beginner telepaths. They might perceive a conversation to go a certain way, but often people have their own thoughts.

Of accounts of telepathy I have been able to self-actualize there was an occasion where I tripped LSD with my ex-girlfriend and she said she heard my soul singing music. She told me that sometime after we were done tripping. Another separate occasion I was completely sober and walked into the game room of the commons where I was living and a woman asked, "Where is that music coming from?" Apparently she and I were the only ones who could hear it, but she didn't know that I was making it. It was not an actual song I had heard before, to my knowledge (but I suppose the chord progressions could have been based on any song in the media). I'm just fond of coming up with new songs and sort of "broadcasting" them to people who are spiritually awakening.

I believe it was Ninae who mentioned something once upon a time about hearing spontaneous music during a spiritual awakening, but I haven't been able to find that post.

I think when I first started to realize I could pick up on things that were not my own thoughts, I was probably or seven or eight, playing with toys in my room. Suddenly this thought floated into my mind that my mother believed I had an imaginary friend named Jack.

Years later my parents had duped me and doped me up with medications and whenever a counter-argument would come up suggesting that I was not mentally ill, my mother would swear up and down that I used to have an imaginary friend named Jack. Fucking bizarre. I fucking hate that cunt sometimes.

 

[Mycophile]

Actually after talking to my dad i found out that in fact it was that the guy would get drunk and then have perfect memory of whatever happened when drunk the next time he'd get drunk, and not just have a photographic memory for things he learned while NOT drunk initially, after later drinking, so those explanations you guys posted seem legit as to what was up with this guy, so I should go back and look at what you posted in more detail cause i only skimmed it.

I think this needs to be a movie; THE DRUNK DETECTIVE...lol.

The detective has a photographic memory for whatever he learns drunk, so he's always drunk on the job, and he's the best at what he does lol.

 

[Mycophile]

Yeah, as for Xorkoth's talking about calling friends at the same time, that has happened with many people, and many times with my mom and her friends who, like i said, i definitely think she is psychic.

Only SLIGHTLY off topic, and i could look up Deja Vu and explanations for it, but i have always wondered what causes it, and I've probably had Deja Vu an average amount, i mean, i don't know what average is, but i'd say like 2-4 times a year, but last night was weird cause it was the first time i ever remember having had deja vu of having deju vu.

So basically, I have a certain work out i do for my neck and knee injuries i've had from doing BJJ over the years, and afterwards I was in the shower, and suddenly I had deja vu where i was thinking ''wait, is this deja vu, or just a memory of another time i was taking a shower?''

But then this time i realized that i definitely HAD, probably like maybe 9-10 months ago give or take, been standing in the shower in the exact same position when i had had deja vu and asked myself the same question ''is this deja vu, or just a memory?''

So basically, this time it means i had deja vu AT LEAST 2 times, last night, and the time before that that I was remembering, and possibly also a 3rd time before the first.

It's the only time i ever realized that i was having deja vu, but also remembering another time i had had deja vu, simultaneously.

Pretty tripped out.

I always enjoy deja vu in that weird kind of way.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

LOL do people actually still believe psychics and mediums in this day and age? They are all 100% lying to you. All the famous ones have pretty much been proven freudsters.
They're purposely extremely vague and they all get info on audiences from spies in the building listening etc.

I don't believe in them but how do you explain the man I wrote about in my original post or this thread topic? He knew nothing about my relatives or ancestors, and the old photographs I had shown him had never been viewed by anyone but family members and were not online. Yet somehow he knew very intimate details about these relatives or ancestors that only close family knew and again there was no way to find this information online or to guess it. I also had never told him about these relatives or ancestors at all.

I also met a well known musician who knew the exact date and month I was born and there is no way he would have known this as we were strangers.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I have never been to a psychic and never will. They use dark forces to get their information. Tarot cards and astrology are used by the occult. No thanks.

 

[Mycophile]

I have never been to a psychic and never will. They use dark forces to get their information. Tarot cards and astrology are used by the occult. No thanks.

I should point out to you, since you are either a Christian, or at least a follower of Jesus Christ, that ''occult'' only means ''hidden knowledge'' and that Christianity is STEEPED FROM HEAD TO TOE IN THE OCCULT and always had been.

Rosicrucianism, Gnosticism, The Knight's Templars and The Freemasons are just a few of the ''christian occult'' orders that exist.

These are occult orders that HIGHLY value the teachings of Jesus Christ and the bible, and in fact, base all their teachings around christ and the bible, but they are kind of almost like different secret denominations.

Christian mystics who consider themselves keepers of secret ''OCCULT'' arcane knowledge go back to the time of christ, and many were priests.

The Golden Dawn, despite having Aleister Crowley as a member before he was kicked out, based a large percentage of its' teachings around Rosicrucianism, which actually means ''The Order of the Rosy Cross'' and guess where that ''Cross'' symbol that they respect so greatly comes from---CHRISTIANITY.

I mean, you can believe whatever you want, but honestly, you are NOT as educated as you think on other systems of belief.

I will grant you that you know more about the bible than me as i have only read certain parts and actually i do want to some day read the whole thing, but i think you probably know very very little about other religions and occult orders and philosophies, whereas i have studied pretty much most of the world's religions and many different philosophical systems, world mythologies and spiritual systems throughout my life.

You strike me as extremely superstitious to a fault, and that is really not mentally healthy IMO.

I have OCD myself, and many people with OCD fall into the religious trap and go around thinking they need to say hail mary's ten thousand times a day or pray to such and such a diety every hour on the hour and it eventually becomes a form of mental illness.

Maybe read a bit about some of the other religious systems and consider that they may hold value to them as well.

Hell, just read the old testament/hebrew bible and consider THAT THAT IS REALLY JUDAISM MORE THAN CHRISTIANITY.

Jesus was a jew afterall.

And yet, while i think all system of belief have something positive to offer, i believe they also all have something negative to offer.

i am not willing to 100 percent rule out the existence of god, but i tend to believe in what i can see and feel with my own senses, and i really don't see what anyone stands to gain by believing in magical fairy tales about what does or doesn't happen when we die or a big man in the sky.

Maybe there's a god and maybe there's a heaven or hell, but i'm not willing to gamble my life on their existence.

I'm figuring there's nothing else and that if i want something i better accomplish it for myself and not ask god for it, just in case he doesn't exist.