Have YOU ever been to a psychic? Do YOU believe in telepathy?

[Mycophile]

Wow. She actually said the Freemasons and all the occult HIGHLY value the teachings of Jesus Christ. No they have STOLEN the word of God and used it to trick people to lead them to hell.

You have no idea what you are talking about. It's beyond ridiculous to actually think the occult teaches Jesus Christ. They worship Satan. Get a clue. You know nothing.

First off, i'm a man, not a women.

And when did i ever say ''ALL'' the occult value Christ's teachings?

I said that you used the word ''occult'' to mean evil and entirely anti-christian, and yet, ''occult'' only means deep hidden knowledge, much of which is in the bible itself, and MANY MANY monks and priests and christians of various kinds throughout the ages have been delving into the ''occult'' as they were mystics claiming to have secret knowledge behind the meanings of bible passages that were not known to most people, and that is literally all that the ''occult'' means, it's just that occult christianity, occult satanism, occult islam, astrology, tarot, etc can all be grouped into one big category called ''the occult'' if you want to because they all involve ''hidden knowledge.

And yes, all those orders value the teachings of christ.

Do you know anything Gnosticism, and if so, explain to me please how it does not descend from the teachings of christianity.

None of those orders worship satan, and i wouldn't care if they did, because i don't believe in satan or god.

Hell, my highschool math teacher was a free mason so i guess he was a satanist hahahaah.

Many of the founders of America were free masons, including i am pretty sure, George Washington and John Adams, and all dollar bills have masonic symbolism on them.

You ever notice that triangle with the eye on it on the back of dollar bills?

THAT IS FROM FREE MASONRY, so i suggest you stop spending money ASAP if you are so concerned with being a part of a satanic order hahah...that's gonna be tough.

You think you know much more than you do.

i will be waiting for your explanations on how Rosicruciansim and Gnosticism don't have to do with Christ's teachings, but here's some reading to get you started, and it's easiest to start with Gnosticism since the other 3 sects, all of which yes, do value christ's teachings, are more complex but this right here is an ''occult'' order that is all about christianity, proving you wrong that ''the occult'' is always anti-christian.

Gnosticism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

@Xorkoth already said he doesn't want this thread turned into that debate which YOU brought up, not me. You are being deceived. They steal the Word of God and teach it to trick people in, but they are satanic and leading people to hell.

This is from a site of a believer who obviously knows the Word of God. Don't just dismiss it because it's from a believer, it's still true! Obviously, you've failed to read it. Freemasons are demonic and that pyramid on the bill with the eye in the center stands for the Illuminati. I guess they worship Jesus too, huh? No. They worship the devil, sacrifice humans and they are a satanic cult that rules the world.

The Truth About Satanic Cults

Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, viewed Satan as a true entity that he actually worshipped before his death, as many satanic cults do today.

www.goodfight.org

 

[Mycophile]

Well that's your choice. You've made it quite clear you don't agree with me, but I know exactly what I'm talking about. The occult is a satanic cult. You don't agree with me, I get it. You don't have to follow me around disagreeing. Your point is made, but there is a spiritual world. There's a spiritual battle going on right now between Jesus and the devil. The people in power are using it to their advantage that foolish people aren't believers. They are using Satan in the spiritual world and laughing at people who don't believe. So keep not believing, doesn't effect me either way. Hopefully you won't learn it's not a "fairytale" when it's too late.

You need to watch "Ares" on Netflix.

NO.

The Occult is NOT ''a cult'' it is a term for DOZENS of systems of hidden knowledge, which span across various religions, sciences and the paranormal.

I do not agree that there is any kind of spiritual battle going on between jesus and the devil, and i'm hoping I DONT' learn it's ''not a fairy tale before it's too late'' because that will mean i will have given up my intellect and become a sheep, which i'd rather not be.

i'm not watching any kind of fire and brimstone christ is coming down to send the sinners to hell stuff.

Wikipedia very clearly hear emphasizes that ''occult'' is VERY broad, and at one point EVEN THE STUDY OF HOW MAGNETS work and GRAVITY ITSELF were considered the occult, and many thought Isaac Newton was ''evil'' and studying ''the occult'' when he figured out how gravity works.

Go on believing what you want, but stop preaching to people.

WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

Occult qualities are properties that have no known rational explanation; in the Middle Ages, for example, magnetism was considered an occult quality.[3][4] Aether (classical element) is another such element.[5] Newton's contemporaries severely criticized his theory that gravity was effected through "action at a distance", as occult.[6]


Here's a good article on why ''the occult'' is neither a good or bad thing; and here's is a great quote from it


''Firstly if the Occult was evil or bad would that mean all religion is bad..? I mean we can’t all understand the hidden meanings to religion’s so does that mean we should put it in this category as well..?

Secondly if the Occult was bad or evil would that mean that every time we experienced something we did not fully understand, that it is an evil experience, or does it mean that we are bad..? It’s like you delved into something, others do not get so, so oh my gosh, that is so bad (or evil.. )..''

Is the Occult Evil or Bad?

www.occultblogger.com

And here's wikipedia'

Occult - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mycophile]

Crowley sacrificed children and worshipped the devil just like the rest of the occult she's talking about. I'm disgusted she's trying to make it sound like they were into Jesus. No they worship the devil and sacrifice humans. She is very deceived. It's disturbing.

AGAIN I'm not a women, I'm a man, and i'm not talking about Crowley, i am talking about the occult, which literally means ANY AND ALL HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, including the secret teachings of christianity and Jesus Christ himself, and at other points in time, science, like gravity and how magnets work, were considered ''evil'' and ''occult'' because people did not understand them.

Yet you think ''the occult' is an evil satanic sect, when in fact, it is a very broad term used for any and all systems of ''hidden knowledge.''

A quick internet search reveals this to be true and a fact.

You are using the word wrong, and it's as simple as that.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

The Truth About Satanic Cults

Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, viewed Satan as a true entity that he actually worshipped before his death, as many satanic cults do today.

www.goodfight.org

 

[Gormur]

So does that woman perform exorcism or something? What does she say or claim about demons? Which books did she write? Or is she an academic who writes about the history of demons in folklore, film, etc.?

I think, not sure, all of the above. Still learning. Here's one

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

What happened with the cosmic consciousness?

I am still working out the implications and possibilities.

One being that there is no supernatural and that religionists should put their money into science and looking for aliens.

Secular forces have the laws and rules that already do better than the gods so that is the intelligent way to go.

Especially given that atheist countries are more peaceful and law abiding.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Gnostic said he had gone for a lie detector test with his spouse, a few posts above, and I remarked that these tests have been proven to be suspect because anyone can pass them; okay, maybe not anyone can but persuasive types can pass - ie people who control their breathing at will

I claimed that we could pass such a test. Not that we had taken one. I agree that such tests may not be conclusive.

If they were, we could get Randy's million $ prize.

Regards
DL

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

There is a supernatural/spiritual world. Looking for aliens? I used to look in the sky at night for aliens and I would see these bright white orbs appear out of nowhere and float around. It was just something to distract me and fuck with my mind. They want you to look up, that's to throw you off, but the aliens are already here amongst us.

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Gnosticism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regards
DL

 

[Gormur]

There is a supernatural/spiritual world. Looking for aliens? I used to look in the sky at night for aliens and I would see these bright white orbs appear out of nowhere and float around. It was just something to distract me and fuck with my mind. They want you to look up, that's to throw you off, but the aliens are already here amongst us.

I believe you. I'm a seer. If i just sit quietly all day, i can enjoy watching the spiritual realm

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

Speaking of telepathy, the white orbs in the sky can sense you looking at them. It's like they move with your mind. They appear when you think about them. I saw an Amazon documentary called "Capturing the Light". This woman would see white orbs in the night sky and she started videotaping them so people would believe her. Those white orbs are demons. The devil can appear as an angel of light. It's best not to even go looking for them because they invade your mind. I had apocalyptic dreams after discovering them. One of them was a huge flood swallowing the earth. Then the next was a huge ball of fire consuming the earth. That happened when I was fascinated with those white orbs.

In the documentary, even the church warned her that the white orbs were demons. She said "How could something so beautiful be evil?!" Foolish woman. Lucifer was the most beautiful angel in heaven. That's how he tricks people. The more she goes looking for it, the more it will take over and consume her.

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

There is a supernatural/spiritual world.

Many say this lie. I say lie because you have no evidence or proof to show.

No one ever has.

That is why stupid words like faith have been invented.

I have gone further than you with real knowledge of telepathy and I cannot even show the evidence or proof of that.

If reality does not belie what you stated, show us all.

Regards
DL

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

There's plenty of proof of the spiritual world every single day, but no use arguing with you.

 

[Xorkoth]

Quit the personal attacks. For fuck's sake, how hard is it? Don't tell each other to shut up, it's aggressive and destroys civil debate. Next time it's infractions. I'm sick of this shit. I have removed a variety of posts from a variety of people. I'm really busy, I have no time to clean up every thread of the disrespect back and forth, but I'm going to try. In the future it's not going to fly.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I'm going to stand up for myself when someone insults me for no reason so oh well. It's not like I started it.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

Quit the personal attacks. For fuck's sake, how hard is it? Don't tell each other to shut up, it's aggressive and destroys civil debate. Next time it's infractions. I'm sick of this shit. I have removed a variety of posts from a variety of people. I'm really busy, I have no time to clean up every thread of the disrespect back and forth, but I'm going to try. In the future it's not going to fly.

You conveniently didn't delete Shady's post where he tagged Gnostic Bishop and made that insult about me, but you deleted what I said when I defended myself.

 

[Xorkoth]

Jesus christ. Fine I missed it. I'm not persecuting you.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I am still working out the implications and possibilities.

One being that there is no supernatural and that religionists should put their money into science and looking for aliens.

Secular forces have the laws and rules that already do better than the gods so that is the intelligent way to go.

Especially given that atheist countries are more peaceful and law abiding.

Regards
DL

How did you experience the cosmic or universal consciousness? Were you on drugs, or meditating or astral ptojecting or having an out of body experience? Or what all did you learn?

Atheist countries such as China, North Korea, and the former USSR are very law abiding because they are dictatorships, have prison camps, do not have freedom of religion or freedom from Marxism/communism/socialism.