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National love service? (Cure for incels)

tathra said:
there's also the massive problem of toxic masculinity's insistence that anger is the only emotion men are "allowed" to show, so men become convinced that sex is the only source of intimacy. there are many more and more fulfilling ways to be intimate - I've told my partner I want to put her makeup on her, paint her nails, bathe together, wash each other in the shower, even brush her teeth (google "monogatari toothbrush scene" ehehe), as well as shit like go to protests and firebomb concentration camps

so inceldom is deeply rooted in toxic masculinity, which is acting out to protect one's fragile masculinity. the fix here is to teach men that their masculinity isn't contingent on following some arbitrary checklist of "how to be a man", to teach men that it's ok to cry, that it's ok to hug and hold other men's hands, that it's ok to dress however you want (dresses too) and even wear makeup if they want. teach men that it's ok to be human
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Something I've long felt is something of an irony, is how many men seem so worried about what other men think of them and how "manly" they are.

Which I say is ironic to me, because that's something I don't find very manly at all. I'd find it much more manly for a man to not give a shit what other men think of him.

Take all the dick measuring bs. It seems far more about showing off to other men than it is about women.
 
SKL said:
Some of the biggest assholes are the self-declared "nice guys who can't get laid" though. Probably because they're on the other end of the same psychopathic equation as the hypersexual guys.
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anyone that repeatedly insists what a nice guy they are, isn't
 
tathra said:
anyone that repeatedly insists what a nice guy they are, isn't
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The incredibly creepy thing about the "nice guys" (as a group which semi-overlap with "incels") is the idea that women are obligated to have sex with them because they are (allegedly) nice guys. Of course, the same attitude shows up in the bar scene when it comes to buying drinks.
 
Im not a nice guy but id like to think im mostly a good a guy

* actually im a pretty nice guy though i doubt id be described as such by others necessarily
 
ugh yes. there is no amount of "nice guy" tokens you could cash in that would obligate a woman to fuck you

if you want to get laid, stop treating women as a means to an end, and stop treating human relations as transactional. fucking capitalists, I swear
 
tathra said:
there's also the massive problem of toxic masculinity's insistence that anger is the only emotion men are "allowed" to show, so men become convinced that sex is the only source of intimacy. there are many more and more fulfilling ways to be intimate - I've told my partner I want to put her makeup on her, paint her nails, bathe together, wash each other in the shower, even brush her teeth (google "monogatari toothbrush scene" ehehe), as well as shit like go to protests and firebomb concentration camps

so inceldom is deeply rooted in toxic masculinity, which is acting out to protect one's fragile masculinity. the fix here is to teach men that their masculinity isn't contingent on following some arbitrary checklist of "how to be a man", to teach men that it's ok to cry, that it's ok to hug and hold other men's hands, that it's ok to dress however you want (dresses too) and even wear makeup if they want. teach men that it's ok to be human
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You giant homo
 
He means 'nu-male,' I think, and for the record, I hate almost everything about the post in question and find the alternative routes to intimacy he mentioned to be creepy (although I suppose that's down to this girl as to whether or not she's down for it, so too the nu-male stuff, he's evidently having more success with women than you probably are morpher) but have to hand it to tathra that he is only totally right about "men becom[ing] convinced that sex is the only source of intimacy." Although, this is hardly a male-only problem. There are plenty of women who see sex as the only source of intimacy. The only thing is that they can be derided as sluts whereas it's considered normative for men. This is a dichotomy that's often complained about by feminists, but they miss a larger context: more precisely than being a problem of toxic masculinity, it is a problem of a post-sexual revolution society. In the more traditional view of sex and marriage, sex is definitely not the only source of intimacy. This is only a problem when, again, sex is decoupled from it's natural and societal contexts.
 
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CoastTwoCoast said:
All girls do NOT want assholes! I do not understand women like that and those types piss me off. If you know he's a jerk when you get with him, don't come whining about it when he treats you like shit.

I think the biggest problem for guys like that is they are involuntarily celibate, I suppose. They want to get laid, but can't. I love being celibate because people play too many games and relationships are too much work/energy at this point. It's different and better feeling when you're celibate by choice. So I feel for them if they can't get laid, but don't be a douche about it.
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I know women who married men like this. The one is naive or stupid enough to actually believe that a guy who psychologically and emotionally abused her, and who she is with for his money and kept by will make a very good husband and father to any children they have. 8) A leopard cannot change its spots.

I read about incels here the internet slang terms were funny to me.

Incel - Wikipedia

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