5-mapb needs to be respected . I tend to like it better than mdma because I can control the stimulation. Yes, Done borax combo , it was just as good as mdma while having less effects, esp the next day. 5-mapb is 1.5 to 2 x's mg for mg as mdma period. Ive heard of tan batches not as potent and such but never experienced this. my expirience has been its very strong mg for mg. You can search the 5-mapb thread, it was the first time i used an entactogen in thirteen years, after ecstacy pill abusive where I lost the magic. I did 107 mgs with my ex , she did 65 mgs. I had serotonin syndrome for ten days untill I made a doctor appointment. I worked for a supplement company and took passion flower, -5 htp, and some other herbal things I forget the name of the I think contributed or cause serotonin syndrome, so ALWAYS, do your research on the herbs you take that can effect mao-, and serotonin. It was so bad I cried and cried, took off work, passed out hitting my head in kitchen cooking burgers. I ended up throwing three grams away! It tested out perfect on five reagent tests, merke, marquis, simons a and b. Maybe it was good but after being woke up during sleep with shocks)brai zaps) and the sides it was pure hell.
Got another batch and tried mixing it with a couple things. Highest ive ever went was 75 mgs, that was with 25 mgs 2-fma or 3-fmp and 3- 5 mgs miprocin . Done this a couple times and it does replicate mdma, in fact I couldn't tell the difference and comedown with much smoother. In fact no comedown, was very pleasant. I dont like to do entactogens much bc of what they do but I did 5-mapb 20 mgs solo 50 days ago and was lovely. It has enough stimulation on its own, but doesnt compare to mdma so youll in regards to increasing dopamine and noradraline levels, one must add something that ups them. Many things out there to be skeptical of, in my experience the borax combo is spot on with mdma.
6 apb is similar to rolling. I seem to feel more rolling feeling, eyes doing the roll thing on 6 apb, which is welcomed esp if havent felt in a while , but 5-mapb seems to be a deeper entactogen, with more empathy, connection and 6 apb is more stimulation, the comeup is a lot more uncomfortable then 5 mapb, and doesnt seem to go as deep connecting with people. If I had to choose Id choose 5 mapb . Having said that, Its been almost a year since 6-apb has been done and its fine to switch it up, maybe ill have a different expirience because I have had some amazing 6apb experiences and some oh its ok. Id recommend 6-apb more for going out socially than 5-mapb solo, and even the borax combo. For some reason 5 mapb feels purer and cleaner than 6 apb. This is not a knock on 6 apb at all. It can be pleasant and over whelming. Just my expirience.
Of course borax combo is dose dependent and I never went too high on the simulation part. Oh and batches , the fumarate batch is where its at and never went above 90 mgs max, as this was plenty. . 65 mgs-70 mgs works well. My experience mixing 6-apb and a sub 4 psychedelics went extrenely negative. Tread at your own risk. Ive had massive sides a week after doing mixing 90 mgs 6 apb (fumarate) and10-15 mgs Miprocin.
After testing your batch always start small with a "new" batch. 50 mgs for 5-mapb first time is plenty. Next time you do it can always go up, if batch tests good and experience is good. But if it tests out bas good, and you get massive sides, what feels like serotonin syndrome, youll wonder if the batch is correct, thats why with a new batch, always start smaller. Hope that helps.
