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I got some impressions about 5-mapb from other people's posts and I'm confused now. Can you tell me if these impressions are correct or not because you are much more knowledgeable about this stuff than me.
My impressions are as follow, please correct me if I'm wrong.
1. 5-mapb is about twice as potent as MDMA. 75mg 5-mapb is equivalent to 150 mg MDMA. is that right?
2. 5-mapb's effects take longer to kick in by oral than MDMA. 5-mapb 90 minutes vs mdma 60 minutes. is that right?
3. 5-mapb's comeup is smoother than mdma. is that right?
4. 5-mapb's effects are linear. Taking half dosage of 5-mapb, feeling like half of the effects. While half dosage of mdma will be a waste, could even be annoying. is that right?
5. 5-mapb is heavier on heart than mdma, in general. is that right?
Thank you very much in advance.
1. Yes, about twice as potent. On paper 1.5-2 x's , and it also depends on the batch.
Remember many of these are not tested for percent purity (80,90, 95, 97, or 99%) so it could be a crap shoot finding a higher percent purity batch. As always start small , with a new batch, even if you test it with reagents tests, bc unless the company a coa you can see, it may be 80 % or 98.2 percent)
2. I dont know, maybe. It depends whats in your stomach a lot. I would say from experience is a smoother comeup, and roll.
3. Mdma causes a more stimulation roll, where 5 mapb is more of a roll. Ive expiremented with lower doses, and ime its best to just wait and do a full expirience dose, after finding batch purity and or what mgs seem to work best.
4. No not entirely. Again, the first time you do it, from a new batch, may be underwhelming, because of purity. It may not as well, but its better to be safe than sorry. If its good purity, 50-60 mgs is plenty first time (thats after doing a small allergy test like 5 mgs a day or days before)
5. I dont know but frequent drug use in general isnt a good thing. You always want to use what can help heal you and not exploring using more, if not required.
*remember if your done any entacogens recently it will blount effects some bc of tolerance.
5 mapbs was discovered by accident as a replacement in the borax combo. The borax was a "legal quazi legal replacement for mdma.
5 mapbs caught on, with being able to feel more deeply in love with a soulmate, someone you deeply and truly love, than mdma.
If your goal is just to roll mdma may be best like a night out with the boys in the city , nightlife, a rave, night venues.
5 mapbs can touch you inner soul, as much as any external stimili can, with a soul mate you truley are deeply in love with.
If negative emotions come up with them you will feel them while on 5 mapbs and be amplified. If you can work them out and positive ones happen and yall have sex, oral, intercourse, massage, talking, this will also bond you so deeply, deeper than mdma in my expirience.
If your not able to work through them , it could be ugly, which is why I wrote further down to not do them with a fwb or someone who may be effing other people.
These medicines are sacred, and need to be done with sacred people. If your the only sacred person, cool, youd be protecting yourself bc people that are envious, negative, have effected my roll, their aura sucked, when they're trying to belittle you in front of other so called "friends", their true colors come out.
I wouldn't recommend more than 75-80 mgs tops from experience. (after testing it a couple or few times) Unless its percent is lower which after post 1 , explains .
I guess you could start a bit higher like 65-75 mgs but no more, unless you want a severe comedown risk. (again batch dependent)
some guys many years ago went to 100-150 mgs but I suspect they abused the stuff had tolerance issues, or had lower percent batches, or both.
I seemed to have super high potency 5 mapb first time I did it.
This can not be used frequently or tolerance does develop and it will feel weak , if you do it every couple months, dose dependent, I know bc I've been there.
No biggy if it doesnt feel potent, just wait a few months and increase the dose next time .
Is it a more legal thing , that your wanting to explore 5 mapb?
are you doing it with a soul mate or someone you deeply love that you have been sexual with a lot ?
Everything on your mind will come out with her so if you have something you dont want her to find out about, well Im letting you know, it seems to come out ,
in my experience more so than with mdma.
I dont not recommend doing it with a quazi lover, friends with benefits, as ime this cause a lot of depression with that comedown a couple and few days afterwards.
and hey I cry a lot sometimes, and may be more emotionally open than some people, as ive been through quite many lovers, so I have to guard myself, as Ive had the experiences.
Now if you only want to replicate an mdma roll , like a night out with friends, or solo, the borax combo doesnt seem to go so deep as 5 mapb solo, also had some distracting elements to it as not as pure serotonin, and higher dopamine and noradrenaline happening, like similar to mdma. I couldnt really distinguish the difference between borax and mdma, yet borax seemed a lesser come down.
Ime bortax combo is less of a comedown , and no more than 60-70 mgs of 5 mapbs mixed with 3fpm, and a small typt dose, is a lesser comedown than mdma, 90- 100 mgs higher percent or more. Again it comes down to percent.