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Glubrahnum said:
Tubes of this shape and size can be plugged into regular fluorescent fixtures.
If the tube's length and terminals matches the socket, it will be fine 90% of the time.

A UVC highpass or bandpass filter is a good addition to the enclosure because these UV tubes also emit a little of visible light, which can overwhelm the fluorescence.
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I think I'm now sorted, thanks
 
ThreePointCircle said:
I think I'm now sorted, thanks
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Good. To become even better, get yourself more solvents, because you need room to experiment to get yourself the best mixture (solvent system) to achieve good sample separation on that plate. If you live in an oppressive country where buying solvents is jailbait, even an automotive starting fluid is worth a try because it contains diethyl ether and heptane. You can even separate them like this.
 
Glubrahnum said:
Good. To become even better, get yourself more solvents, because you need room to experiment to get yourself the best mixture (solvent system) to achieve good sample separation on that plate. If you live in an oppressive country where buying solvents is jailbait, even an automotive starting fluid is worth a try because it contains diethyl ether and heptane. You can even separate them like this.
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I don't seem to have any trouble getting solvents. What I have is DCM, Xylene, Isopropyl, Acetone. What else do you recommend?
 
ThreePointCircle said:
I don't seem to have any trouble getting solvents. What I have is DCM, Xylene, Isopropyl, Acetone. What else do you recommend?
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Butanone (MEK) and these heavy linear alkanes like Hexane and Heptane ...and out of non-linear ones maybe Dioxane.

Also, for developing non-fluorescent plates, elemental iodine and potassium permanganate are handy (yes, I know you have fluorescent ones...but you can always run out).
 
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Welcome back.

I made contact with a person who is a chemist in the Polytechnic department, I asked him if the same substance differing only in the method of synthesis in which it was received can affect the human body differently.

His answer: "Often the properties of different substances depend on the method of preparation. This is due to many factors, such as impurities formed during synthesis, or the polymorphic form in which the substance crystallizes"

Everything translated by the translator so sorry for errors ...

@Glubrahnum: what additional questions could I ask?
 
@majk13 I think its coming down to:

1) What unwanted byproducts are commonly produced by the various synthesis routes
2) How to get rid of them or test for them in a way people can do at home
 
@Glubrahnum just thinking ahead, once I've tlc and I have the separate spots, could I then do reagent tests on each one to further try and identify what they are? Is that worth doing? (on the assumption that the mdma is masking the 'meh' byproduct but that potentially the reagents could identify it if it were a pure sample)
 
ThreePointCircle said:
@Glubrahnum just thinking ahead, once I've tlc and I have the separate spots, could I then do reagent tests on each one to further try and identify what they are? Is that worth doing? (on the assumption that the mdma is masking the 'meh' byproduct but that potentially the reagents could identify it if it were a pure sample)
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Yes, after the solvent evaporates you can do any analysis on the spots. The only problem might be the quantity of the substance contained in the spots. This is not a problem with e.g. Raman spectroscopy which involves just shining laser light on the spots and detecting the reflected light spectrum, but with reagent testing you'd need to dose a very small amount of it with a small capillary, in order not to flood the small spot. Observing the color evolution on such a small scale, might be difficult without optical magnification.

Also, you can cut out the spot which contains MDMA (and the starting line) and send the remainder of the plate to a professional lab for analysis without worrying about the legalities.
 
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Glubrahnum said:
Also, you can cut out the spot which contains MDMA (and the starting line) and send the remainder of the plate to a professional lab for analysis without worrying about the legalities.
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I like that idea. I guess the only issue is working out which spot is the MDMA. Presumably reagent test and if I can work it out then off we go.
 
majk13 said:
Welcome back.

I made contact with a person who is a chemist in the Polytechnic department, I asked him if the same substance differing only in the method of synthesis in which it was received can affect the human body differently.

His answer: "Often the properties of different substances depend on the method of preparation. This is due to many factors, such as impurities formed during synthesis, or the polymorphic form in which the substance crystallizes"

Everything translated by the translator so sorry for errors ...

@Glubrahnum: what additional questions could I ask?
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You can also ask how much WET VS DRY crystals with solvent effect it orally.

You can point him to the pre ban DMSO mephadrone pre ban threoy

Dr Zee Meph DMSO Debate pre-ban holy grail who knows ... explained in a recent article - https://www.talkingdrugs.org/where-did-all-the-real-mephedrone- go

https://dnstars.vip/pre-ban-mephedrone-rediscovered/
 
vash445 said:
You can also ask how much WET VS DRY crystals with solvent effect it orally.

You can point him to the pre ban DMSO mephadrone pre ban threoy

Dr Zee Meph DMSO Debate pre-ban holy grail who knows ... explained in a recent article - https://www.talkingdrugs.org/where-did-all-the-real-mephedrone- go

https://dnstars.vip/pre-ban-mephedrone-rediscovered/
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DMSO is a easy answer it increases the absorption of any material in it it just goes through your skin or membranes straight into the blood.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
other solvents do not penetrate the skin or membranes as easily as dmso. For mdma you dont want any solvents left over pretty much every solvent has some level of toxicity associated with it.
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AHHH But acetone isn't THAT toxic and minor amounts lets say semi wet stuff I got from NL before could possibly have an effect. AND acetone is VERY common
 
TripSitterNZ said:
other solvents do not penetrate the skin or membranes as easily as dmso. For mdma you dont want any solvents left over pretty much every solvent has some level of toxicity associated with it.
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EXAMPLE I found GBL with acetone. I boiled the acetone and was left with about 2-3oz of GBL. (REported ammount by msds) WAS THERE MINOR acetone, sure, is it toxic. it's really not that bad in amounts that small, like what 100-150mg with maybe 10% tops by weight if semi wet. NOT SPEED PASTE WET but mdma acetone wet
 
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i wouldnt want acetone in me on my skin or near me. I worked with huge amounts of acetone as a chemist the fumes would really give you a awful headache and really fuck your skin up if spilt on you.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
i wouldnt want acetone in me on my skin or near me. I worked with huge amounts of acetone as a chemist the fumes would really give you a awful headache and really fuck your skin up if spilt on you.
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OH i imagine, but just a little bit wont kill ya. this isnt ricin / ANd if you really are eating large amounts of MDMA TO WHERE AECTONE WOULD BE A CONCERN... i THINK WE WOULD HAVE OTHER ISSUE TO WORRY ABOUT FIRST :) LIKE EATING LARGE AMMOUNT OF mdma COUGH COUGH
 
Actually speaking of acetone, cyanide and ricin, couldn't be any worse then this... lets do 100+mg of 3meopcp said noone ever!!! AND yet I know people.... WHO DO HARM REDUCTION at the burn ... SMFH. I mean cyanide isnt that dangerous but I def had a friend who wanted intergalactic space kitties that for sure and my friend racked up a line for the WHOLE DAY!!! Nope does it in 1 line and she gone gone

WARNING: Potential lethal batch of 3-MeO-PCP going around


 
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