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I thought it was bullcrap all this fuzz about true MDMA and MEHDMA but I've come to the conclusion THAT IT IS IN FACT TRUE. i've tried numerous pills, some tested some not, pills that make you feel all loved up, no comedown, strong safrole smell, not much of a comedown days later. ANd i've tried SUPPOSEDLY GOOD PILLS but the only FX i got was jaw clenching, speedy effect, heart racing, not much euphoria and it wore off real fast. And guess what that pill tested positive for MDMA, it was a famous press even,probably a counterfeit one idk but still it tested positive. And i have had other pills that still make me feel really good. My tolerance is really high these days(ive been using on and off MDMA for the past 8 years) and i only get a glimpses of the MAGIC that made me love MDMA from outstanding pills every once in a while, there are still good pills around but i'd rather do pure MDMA most of the time now. It makes me feel more the loved up effect, the tactile sensitivity, not much jaw clenching, etc. anyway guys everything isn't lost, you just have to look well for good pills. There's still good MDMA out there....the one that is sheer MAGIC. Cheers, NZN
 
Just wanted add my two cents to this, I have no idea if there is "magic" mdma and mehmda haha. But Im a good subject to test this as I didnt experience mdma or any drug other than weed till pretty late in life. The first time I took mdma it, id say it was exactly like what shulgin described it as. My second time with the same material was good , but def. a step down but I only waited 6 weeks. 3rd time I upped the dose to 120mg (plus 60 redose) and it was pretty much like the 1st. Next time I did it, I had not intended to do it that night as I was tripping on shrooms and I took a much bigger dose than I would have at that point if I was sober. I started with about an 8th of shrooms , and probably took 260ish mg of the same mdma , this was the most amazing drug experience I have ever had and really didnt think feeling of such pure bliss was even possible. Ever since that trip, my mdma source changed and my rolls have not been the same. Little to no music enhancement, euforia there is some but nothing like what you would expect... I do get most the other effects such an my body feels amazing, it drops my personality walls, much more open and communitive. Now it possible that musroom/mdma experience changed something and I just cant roll like I used to , or the new mdma is different. Fortunetely I have like 136mg of my original material and I am going to take for my next roll. This will tell me whether some/much of todays mdma is not the same , or its simply own body chemistry or maybe the shroom/mdma combo was a bad idea , ive seen someone on reddit say the same thing, that thier rolls just werent the same after combing shrooms with e. My last roll a month ago I did a tradition nexus flip, and I have to say that brought back much of the magic. :D Im going to wait another month and try my original material and will report back. For the record, I have tried two different sources of crystal and some orange teslas, and the quality of the roll with those were basically the same, so I am skeptical my original stuff will by any different, but we shall see :D
 
Specified said:
I read a bit.
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You seem to have missed the running hypothesis that the super labs from there are, in large part, contributing to the current MehDMA phenomenon. Tor is definitely not safe from mediocre product, and in fact the opposite.

heatlessbbq said:
The majority of the Molly ["Moon Rocks"] going around Today is actually MDA.
Not MDMA.
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This is baseless speculation unless proven otherwise.
 
wereallmadhere said:
Just wanted add my two cents to this, I have no idea if there is "magic" mdma and mehmda haha. But Im a good subject to test this as I didnt experience mdma or any drug other than weed till pretty late in life. The first time I took mdma it, id say it was exactly like what shulgin described it as. My second time with the same material was good , but def. a step down but I only waited 6 weeks. 3rd time I upped the dose to 120mg (plus 60 redose) and it was pretty much like the 1st. Next time I did it, I had not intended to do it that night as I was tripping on shrooms and I took a much bigger dose than I would have at that point if I was sober. I started with about an 8th of shrooms , and probably took 260ish mg of the same mdma , this was the most amazing drug experience I have ever had and really didnt think feeling of such pure bliss was even possible. Ever since that trip, my mdma source changed and my rolls have not been the same. Little to no music enhancement, euforia there is some but nothing like what you would expect... I do get most the other effects such an my body feels amazing, it drops my personality walls, much more open and communitive. Now it possible that musroom/mdma experience changed something and I just cant roll like I used to , or the new mdma is different. Fortunetely I have like 136mg of my original material and I am going to take for my next roll. This will tell me whether some/much of todays mdma is not the same , or its simply own body chemistry or maybe the shroom/mdma combo was a bad idea , ive seen someone on reddit say the same thing, that thier rolls just werent the same after combing shrooms with e. My last roll a month ago I did a tradition nexus flip, and I have to say that brought back much of the magic. :D Im going to wait another month and try my original material and will report back. For the record, I have tried two different sources of crystal and some orange teslas, and the quality of the roll with those were basically the same, so I am skeptical my original stuff will by any different, but we shall see :D
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Hey, sounds very interesting and thanks for sharing with us and please do report back this will be extremely useful your subjective contribution here which it's still apparently the strongest and only real "evidence" we have lol.

Although I do genuinely think that the Mere fact that we are even having this conversation and entertaining it seriously is pretty much solid confirmation that the issue does exist because if it didn't then we just would not be here right now plain and simple. Right? Magic loss or no magic loss.

I only wanted to add here that I used to really enjoy combining mushrooms with MDMA and acid and ketamine in any old combination and in no way did the combination of mushrooms and MDMA negatively affect my ability to experience MDMA effects fully after this if anything the opposite and it kept the MDMA experience fresh and alive for me.

However I'm not ruling out that something hasn't changed in how you experience MDMA currently but this would possibly be related to your MDMA use and dosages rather than the actual combination with the mushrooms so just something to consider there as well.

Either way your experience with your 136mg shouldn't fail to be revealing in some way.

Roll safe and do share. (y)
 
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To add- I like to follow the ongoing analysis on ecstasydata and elsewhere. If MDA was really predominant currently, surely this would be showing up much more frequently in testing results?

But it is incredibly rare actually much more so than in the past and it would seem that MDMA is by far the predominant compound.
 
As far as im aware MDA is only prominent in New Zealand though some presses containing only MDA do show up occasionally on testing sites around the world
 
So I think I messed up at the salting stage. Up to then it seemed to be going well, a bit messy, but not bad. I actually had HCl instead of acetic acid. I thought I saw stuff start to precipitate out and I separated and dumped the xylene layer. But what I have left is just sitting there and all I can make out is a little bit of oil but no precipitate. Maybe this is because it hasn't dried out yet? Maybe I diluted the HCl too much?

And should you warm the final fixture to dry it out faster?

I'm writing this one off as a practice run. I'll get better tooled up (e.g. sep funnel) and try again. Any tips for the HCl phase would be most appreciated.
 
I forgot to mention always hang on to each layer Incase mistakes happen. As they do..

When doing the salting phase did you just dilute the HCl to 5% then extract by shaking for 10min or so?

There should be no precipitation at this stage. You won’t really see anything happen as the freebase mdma interacts with the acid forming the salt and immediately gets taken up in the water.

It may need to dry more. It’ll look oily until the very last water dried off which can take awhile. Just put in a warm dry place with a fan over it, no heat.

Maybe you didn’t agitate enough to get the freebase into the HCl water layer? Although even if you messed that up you’d get a little something.

Wait for it to dry, it can look like nothing until the last few drops crystallize.

I’m thinking I’m going to perform a mini a/b myself just in solidarity and cuz I got a little that needs some purifying..

-GC
 
heatlessbbq said:
The majority of the Molly ["Moon Rocks"] going around Today is actually MDA.
Not MDMA.
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Wrong, its all testing as mdma on lab tests. (the stuff thats producing lackluster experiences) However, the feeling of "mehdma" would be similar to mda. Everything but the love!
 
epic11 said:
Wrong, its all testing as mdma on lab tests. (the stuff thats producing lackluster experiences) However, the feeling of "mehdma" would be similar to mda. Everything but the love!
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What about duration?
 
Yea most MehDMA I've had lasts just around 3 hours. Though I have had Meh that lasts closer to 4-6 as it should be.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Actually, I find the duration of MehDMA to be more like 3 hours max. Sounds like my Meh is more Meh than your Meh...
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lmao. Well, i guess im just hyper aware of any drug being in me. Id argue the "good" part of meh-dma lasts about 3 hours. And lines up with your statement. How bout that?
 
epic11 said:
lmao. Well, i guess im just hyper aware of any drug being in me. Id argue the "good" part of meh-dma lasts about 3 hours. And lines up with your statement. How bout that?
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Fair enough, but I personally find that after the 3 hours 'good part' is over, I'm sleeping like a baby. So I can't really comment on the remainder of the experience... :\
 
Duration could be down to tolerance.. The one thing I’ve noticed in my friends and family that overdid it through the years.. They’d still get that good loving vibe off good product it just wouldn’t last as long. I can still roll good 4-6 hours but for my brother it’s usually 2-3 these days.

So you guys could possibly be getting the same MehDMA just with different tolerances.. I’m assuming FUBAR has you beat epic hehe ;)

Or as I’ve said before, all batches vary slightly.. It could be either.

-GC
 
G_Chem said:
Duration could be down to tolerance.. The one thing I’ve noticed in my friends and family that overdid it through the years.. They’d still get that good loving vibe off good product it just wouldn’t last as long. I can still roll good 4-6 hours but for my brother it’s usually 2-3 these days.

So you guys could possibly be getting the same MehDMA just with different tolerances.. I’m assuming FUBAR has you beat epic hehe ;)

Or as I’ve said before, all batches vary slightly.. It could be either.

-GC
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Im gonna lean towards tolerance on this part. Ive never abused and even mehdma is noticeable for hours to me. Its just not lovey.
 
MDA has a shorter duration than MDMA.

I've noticed when I eat ecstasy tablets with LSD. My LSD trips last 10x times longer.
 
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