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Come on UK H users - lungs or bum

I don't get why they are still adding fentanyl you can't make money from dead customers can you?
 
Mate i know ive gone on about it ive felt normal respitory deppression where im basiczlly not breating but as long as i remember to force myself im safe but with that sorry fentanyl excuse of heroin i had i literaly could not open my airways more than a few milimiters i had to sit downstairs with my grandma and told her i had to many sleeping tablets and if i pass out maybe call 999 lol junky shenanigans near death none stop pleasure and everything inbetween im so glad i got my prescription to codeine dont know what i would do without it my pharmacist says im the only one in the whole pbarmacy who gets them everyone else gets naxproxen or ibuprofen for pain
 
Pete556 said:
I don't get why they are still adding fentanyl you can't make money from dead customers can you?
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Well if they are dead I guess you could assume their identity & take out credit cards etc in their name, maybe sell their info on the deepweb too.
 
Did we ever confirm whether you could snort UK brown heroin? If so, anyone know the BA? I've done it a couple times when it's been spilled on a carpet or similar, going over the heroin bits with a straw (which is really stupid as I'm allergic to dust and dust mites). I didn't really feel anything from it, but I never really do from smoking it either.
 
About 25% b.a and it usually just blocks yer nose up. As it's not water soluble it doesn't get absorbed much you can add acid and spray up in liquid form like preparing a shot but not worth it imo
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
Did we ever confirm whether you could snort UK brown heroin? If so, anyone know the BA? I've done it a couple times when it's been spilled on a carpet or similar, going over the heroin bits with a straw (which is really stupid as I'm allergic to dust and dust mites). I didn't really feel anything from it, but I never really do from smoking it either.
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It is genuinely viable, but while I do not know the BA it is low enough to make it as uncommon as eating the stuff (which of course also works despite its inefficiency as like morphine oral products are available on the NHS). It is however an objective fact that it is less effective than vaping / chasing, a route which while still not optimal is far from low (All things being = chasing heroin has a BA of approx. 50 % . It is the unique selling point of European base heroin powders, as the BA is still high enough to make it worthwhile and while use of the drug is always inherently dangerous, chasing the stuff does present a lower risk, at least in acute terms, due to the rapidity of onset (even faster than IV) which gives the user at least some control over the dose as like weed, one has more chance to put the tooter down before overdoing it and while overdose is still a real risk, the cycle of top up followed by nod followed by top up creates a situation where people have less chance to build up large amounts within there bloodstream, where as snorting or eating the drug has similar dangers to parenteral methods (which includes plugging as well as injecting) as the dose is delivered as a bolus with no option to take any of it back.

If you find smoking brown heroin ineffective for whatever reason, then I would seriously consider continued use of the drug. I managed to get through the first 7 years following my initial addiction without injecting more than a couple of times, as despite the intense pleasure the faff did not justify the risk considering how effective I found the drug was when chased.

However, when I finally submitted to a methadone Rx I was placed on a therapeutic dose which made the drug ineffective in all but huge amounts, yet while the frequency of my use plummeted, I started to inject regularly to break through the tolerance I had developed. While I still smoke about 75% of my gear, I am now in the habit of injecting the first bag to get me going after which I top up through chasing. Its yet another line crossed and as I will never have the self control to return to chipping, it is something I can only now take back through total abstinence.
 
steewith2ees said:
It is genuinely viable, but while I do not know the BA it is low enough to make it as uncommon as eating the stuff (which of course also works despite its inefficiency as like morphine oral products are available on the NHS). It is however an objective fact that it is less effective than vaping / chasing, a route which while still not optimal is far from low (All things being = chasing heroin has a BA of approx. 50 % . It is the unique selling point of European base heroin powders, as the BA is still high enough to make it worthwhile and while use of the drug is always inherently dangerous, chasing the stuff does present a lower risk, at least in acute terms, due to the rapidity of onset (even faster than IV) which gives the user at least some control over the dose as like weed, one has more chance to put the tooter down before overdoing it and while overdose is still a real risk, the cycle of top up followed by nod followed by top up creates a situation where people have less chance to build up large amounts within there bloodstream, where as snorting or eating the drug has similar dangers to parenteral methods (which includes plugging as well as injecting) as the dose is delivered as a bolus with no option to take any of it back.

If you find smoking brown heroin ineffective for whatever reason, then I would seriously consider continued use of the drug. I managed to get through the first 7 years following my initial addiction without injecting more than a couple of times, as despite the intense pleasure the faff did not justify the risk considering how effective I found the drug was when chased.

However, when I finally submitted to a methadone Rx I was placed on a therapeutic dose which made the drug ineffective in all but huge amounts, yet while the frequency of my use plummeted, I started to inject regularly to break through the tolerance I had developed. While I still smoke about 75% of my gear, I am now in the habit of injecting the first bag to get me going after which I top up through chasing. Its yet another line crossed and as I will never have the self control to return to chipping, it is something I can only now take back through total abstinence.
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I haven't used heroin for 3 or 4 years, I was just curious in general. Prescription drugs are more my thing.
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
...3 or 4 years...
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Fair play, as while Rx drugs are far from harmless they are much safer than street powders provided common sense is used. Don't look back!

What sort of things are you into? I occasionally indulge in the odd strip of morphine sulph. capsules but have never bothered with any other 'gold standard' poppies such as hydromorphone or oxycodone. I used to love DHC before I got into gear but my tolerance is too high to get anything out of them any more.
 
steewith2ees said:
Fair play, as while Rx drugs are far from harmless they are much safer than street powders provided common sense is used. Don't look back!

What sort of things are you into? I occasionally indulge in the odd strip of morphine sulph. capsules but have never bothered with any other 'gold standard' poppies such as hydromorphone or oxycodone. I used to love DHC before I got into gear but my tolerance is too high to get anything out of them any more.
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I'm prescribed Tramadol and sometimes get Dihydrocodeine OTC, too. I'll do any opiate, really. I like morphine, oxycodone, fentanyl.
 
steewith2ees said:
DHC is awesome for folk with sensible tolerance levels. I cannot abide tramadol though but its horses for courses and I get why its so popular styl x.

OTC DHC? I take it you are talking about Paramol or some similar co - dydramol product?
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Yes, I meant buying Paramol and sometimes doing a CWE, though these days I usually don't bother. I know I should.
Tramadol isn't working that well for me anymore so planning to ask my doc to switch to DHC (which is twice as stong, anyway).
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
I'm prescribed Tramadol and sometimes get Dihydrocodeine OTC, too. I'll do any opiate, really. I like morphine, oxycodone, fentanyl.
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Otc as in paramol? How much do you use? What dose threshhold do you find you need to go above for decent dffects and do you drink it all in one or slowely? I ask because i might try and get my doctor to switch me to codydramol

im gonna have another endoscopy on my stomach in a few weeks which im dredding those things are grim and the first time i had one it blocked my airways and i was chocking but it was HALF WAY DOWN MY FUCKING THROAT and i tried to signal with my hand to pull it out but they instead ot my hand like i was gonna try and pull it out i felt i swear ive never felt right since that, it was a botched operation butii cant prove it i told my doc thoug and explained thats why i dont want anymore tests but its time i had some more done if nothing else to diagnose me fullyb because my doc is 90% sure i have either crohns disease or ultravituscolotis they are both auto immune disease in the lower organs some people have it in all organs and are in critical condition most of the time luckikye i dont i dont know if has anything to do with my aspergers but my doctors are the best some of them didnt get o with me cus i was abit of a stuck up 18 year old when i first seen one but im 22 now and theyve all known me for over 4 years i got some appointments booked as well about a few things

dhc has always done absolutely nothing to my codeine withdrawals no matter what dose im taking but when i tried some of the prescription stregnth ones codydramol 10/500 only 3 more mgs than the otc 3 of those gave me an awesome head high maybe they release faster than the otc idk but it wouldn't be the first time i take a drug go up to huge doses looking for effects and get nothing then come back and get high pst for example..
 
I like them (and colonoscopies) because you get Midazolam and Fentanyl haha. But I'm weird. I used a hammer to break my finger once (saw it on TV xD) to get morphine once when I was in bad withdrawal.

I can get a nice buzz off 120mg DHC. Never tried more than that in one go. My Tramadol usually lasts 5 days instead of 7 so I use the DHC to stave off withdrawal on those days.

DHC is 2-2.5 x the strength of codeine so it shouldn't leave you in any withdrawals.
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
I like them (and colonoscopies) because you get Midazolam and Fentanyl haha. But I'm weird. I used a hammer to break my finger once (saw it on TV xD) to get morphine once when I was in bad withdrawal.

I can get a nice buzz off 120mg DHC. Never tried more than that in one go. My Tramadol usually lasts 5 days instead of 7 so I use the DHC to stave off withdrawal on those days.

DHC is 2-2.5 x the strength of codeine so it shouldn't leave you in any withdrawals.
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Hey they only gave me some kind of sleeping thing now opiates!

did that actually work was the dose enough for your withdrawals I guess they got no way of proving it was self inflicted

AH 120mg you say it should take me out of withdrawal so do other but i had like 2 packs (400mg) and just felt a bit hyper and felt kind of relaxed but only when walking around and even then it just makes me want codeine even more because i dont wanna be up and about i want the opiate or opioid to relax me to fight with me if i try to move etc so its hard to justify paramol not to mention the price next time im gonna get some in and slowly sip 120 mg i dunno.. I you know when you just feel for some reason the drug isn't effecting you like it should it also being pharmagrade to so no issues with purity.. I might go read up some more about it on drugs forum or open some to read for later
 
I down mine in one, btw. Bigger hit but mostly just because it tastes so foul.

It did work. They gave me "gas and air" (is that the same as nitrous oxide?) and then 5mg IV morphine in the ambulance* and then another 10mg IV morphine after I saw the doctor. They sent me home with a weeks supply of codeine 30's. I was a bit over-enthusiastic, though ,and it was a bad break, whereas I was aiming for more hairline-fracture lol.

*I was home alone and would be for hours, I can't drive and had no money for public transport otherwise I wouldn't have "wasted" an ambulance.
 
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